Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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"... there's footage from Kherson where the exact thing happened that everyone said would happen if untrained civilians attack soldiers with Molotov cocktails"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MetZloUo2f8 (need login)

 
What's the big deal with Putin going after a NATO country after Ukraine? What would be the difference fighting then vs now?
Putin wants the old Soviet Union landmass back. All his talk about being afraid of NATO surrounding Russia and one day attacking was always bullshit. Russia has been the prime aggressor since forever and the only reason NATO is a thing at all is because Russia's neighbors are afraid of it attacking them, not the other way around.
Difference is if he could have taken Ukraine easily, he could have been mad to risk taking on NATO. But if he loses Ukraine now, he won't do this kind of shit soon.
 
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It will be far more parallel if Putin wins, then eventually decide that maybe attacking NATO is worth another huge risk, so iching away at America's influence bit by bit, all the while Taiwan probably gets lost, especially when Western allies don't seem to be able to trust for US support.
If Taiwan was something that may happen 5 years from now, it'd be more superficial, but since that shit is possibly only months away, the future of Ukraine is very important now.
The Republic of Taiwan (not China, Taiwan), with its nascent but rapidly developing Taiwanese nationalism, has a far better support system of alliances than Ukraine ever had. Japan and South Korea will certainly block Chinese attempts at bullshit in Taiwan long enough for the US to step in, and Southeast Asia to pitch in, and India to try to save Tibet, and Mongols to attempt to regain Inner Mongolia, etc.

Who knows, a Russia desperate to be back in good graces with Western economies might even become an ally of the US in this Great Sino-Taiwanese War.
 
What has China been up to? I know that there was that rumour that they were sharing US intelligence with the Russians, but other than that I feel like they have been very quiet.

I'm starting to agree with the users who think this is going to end up being a whole big deal... But it doesn't seem like a war that the west is poised to win, I feel it by the way larger countries are dragging their feet.
China isn't Russias ally don't worry about that. Both countries would stab each other in the back at a moments notice.
 
So I guess I got a bit of intel today on the normie opinion from my mom (she’s Gen X). Anyway, I was saying of how that the crackdown on news sites like Russia Today is not a good thing because it forces you to only get one side of the actual conflict. My mom says that she doesn’t trust anything Putin says and pretty much agrees with the crackdown on Russia Today. Her mind was blown when I told her that actual Nazis do exist in Ukraine under stuff like the Avoz Battalion. Apparently she thought Putin was making it up entirely. This thread is definitely ahead of the curve.
you and your mother sound fat and dumb
 
Chinese Intelligence likely has their eyes glued to this shit. They've otherwise been fairly subdued it seems, beyond a few of the usual aggressive flybys in Taiwanese airspace.

Really though, still on the subject of captured Russian armor, is it actually going to have any effect on the real outcome? Do the Ukranians have enough trained crews to operate and service these vehicles, and are they close enough to where they need to be? You can't just drop dumbfuck infantry or levied militia into mobile rocket artillery, and the further you have to move it to get to the front, the more likely you are to run into angry russians that either want their shit back or want to deny you use of their shit. Maybe the Russians upon discovering this was 't going to be the cakewalk they thought it would be, decided to leave behind what they might lose to enemy fire because they figured "fuck it, once we win we'll get it back anyways". Or maybe the Russians are just riffing now and command has 0 control over the situation. Fog of war is super frustrating.
Most of it they could probably use without a problem, for the most part they're using slightly different variants of the same gear, and even the stuff that's different is usually based off of that equipment. Ammo and parts would be largely interchangeable for a good portion of the gear. It wouldn't pose the same challenge as say if they were in a war with a western power and were capturing their equipment.
 
@Kermit Jizz and with that, all NATO members have to go to war against Russia, including 3 nuclear armed states, against 1 nuclear armed state with the most nukes in the world, so it's going to be a fucking shitshow.
Ummm, that triggers Article 5...
I get that, but if we preemptively go after Russia now is there any effective difference? WW3 will happen in both scenarios, the one scenario where we avoid it is if Russia chills out after Ukraine. Seems to me like sitting back is the best option for the US atm.
 
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The Republic of Taiwan (not China, Taiwan), with its nascent but rapidly developing Taiwanese nationalism, has a far better support system of alliances than Ukraine ever had. Japan and South Korea will certainly block Chinese attempts at bullshit in Taiwan long enough for the US to step in, and Southeast Asia to pitch in, and India to try to save Tibet, and Mongols to attempt to regain Inner Mongolia, etc.

Who knows, a Russia desperate to be back in good graces with Western economies might even become an ally of the US in this Great Sino-Taiwanese War.
Just one thing: modern Mongolia only exists at the pleasure of China and Russia. It is otherwise a poor shithole that has barely a standing army.

There will be no Mongolian irredentism for the foreseeable future.
 
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ah yes, the famous neo nazis of ukraine, marching to their deaths at the orders of their jewish president while he posts holocaust related whining on twitter lol

ive said it before, anybody thinking azov (or any of the other ukie paramilitary guys) are serious nazis is retarded. they do the larp because it's hardcore and edgy, which naturally appeals to the type of guy who would join a paramilitary unit. they do not have serious political positions or aspirations beyond "fuck russia"

it's probably somewhat comparable to that one US marine sniper unit that sparked a little media outrage a while ago because they posed for a photo shoot with an SS flag in afghanistan lol

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Lol, i didn't even mention Azov. I was thinking of peeps like the guy in the documentary raging at "Russians, Kikes and other vermin". And the president that made one of the leaders of the nazi collaborators Bandera or whatever (who was big on genociding Poles too) a posthumous hero. But go on. Did I hit a nerve? Did the glowies evacuate your grandpappy from Ukraine? And yes various wannabe SS spergs serving under a jewish president and being propped up by Soros is the stuff my comment was making fun of - thanks for the revelation.
 
>Be me
>Have to live with vicinity of all types of slavs. Ukrainians included
>Ukrainians robbing shit and basically nignogging
>Grow to be wary of all Ukies
>War happens
>Poland offers help
>Ukies trying to drag them into conflict by lying bc they helped them
>But propagandino of ghosterino is important chud

Are Ukrainians new joggers?
Always has been.
 
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The Republic of Taiwan (not China, Taiwan), with its nascent but rapidly developing Taiwanese nationalism, has a far better support system of alliances than Ukraine ever had. Japan and South Korea will certainly block Chinese attempts at bullshit in Taiwan long enough for the US to step in, and Southeast Asia to pitch in, and India to try to save Tibet, and Mongols to attempt to regain Inner Mongolia, etc.
If the US doesn't come in, the whole of Asia can unite and still it may not be enough to beat the chink commies away, who may bring in allies of their own from somewhere.
Best thing that can happen is that Ukraine demoralizes the Eastern power so much, that China postpones its war for a later time, giving the US time to get its fucking shit together and pumping up Taiwan for any future bullshit. Also giving time for Japan to ramp up its military too.
That or China does attack, does it in the most retarded way possible, loses in two days and everybody laughs at them lol
Who knows, a Russia desperate to be back in good graces with Western economies might even become an ally of the US in this Great Sino-Taiwanese War.
If Putin gets axed by his own crew, who'll be desperate to get back in the West's good graces, could be.
 
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"... there's footage from Kherson where the exact thing happened that everyone said would happen if untrained civilians attack soldiers with Molotov cocktails"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MetZloUo2f8 (need login)

That wasn't a machine gun, that was an auto cannon. Probably 20mm or 23mm HE from the looks of the trees and a few of those bodies. Hadn't seen that yet. Brutal. But neat.
 
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