Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

LARPing as though Russia has achieved any of its initial objectives becomes sillier with every passing day. You are a joke and no one who matters shares your opinion, including Russia, which is why their order of battle has changed multiple times and Putin has had to abandon civilian-sparing strategies for the Syria playbook.
Russia has performed so poorly that their biggest cheerleaders (US defense analysts, who fantasize about Russia being a superb threat the US can't match, please spend more money on defense) have begun damage control and blaming external factors... when in reality the quality of Russian hardware, the quality of Russian recruits, flaws in Russian doctrine, weak morale/propaganda, administrative malfeasance, and inexperience with multi-domain operations perfectly explain why Russia is throwing away hundreds of unnecessary troops, armor, and aircraft on an operation that would be trivial for fucking India, let alone Turkey or Germany.

Definitely.

 

[Arc]

Does anyone have some good resources (print, video, whatever) on learning about all the events surrounding Russia/Ukraine leading up to this mess? Ukraine post-USSR, their color revolution, Crimea, etc.

"Ukrain on Fire" will at least tell you part of the story. I'm sure the loyal opposition have alternative suggestions too.

 

[BradCarter]

Nah I dont thing so, maybe some type of insurgency from the locals? But this is Ukraine and not Afghanistan.

To be fair it's probably far easier to get an AK in Ukraine than it is to get an M4 in Afghanistan currently.

 

[The Other Baldwin]

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This makes me laugh harder every time I read it. 4chan might be below us in intelligence, or any kind of basic human reasoning skills, but they blow us out of the water when it comes to creativity\autism. That being said, I never stroll outside of Happenings...

Vice President Kamala Harris explaining the conflict on a show for niggers:
“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that’s wrong.”

It was worth posting twice. Jesus christ she is second in line to become President, and she just might. God help us when that happens. "What's this red phone do? Hello? Hello? I would like to order room service. Lunch? Yes! Lunch sounds good! Lunch now!"

I mean if you haven't got the fuck out of dodge already I don't know what to tell you. The tensions have been waaay up for over a month and Russians have been rolling in for almost a week. It's not like it wasn't inevitable they were going to hit the capital soon.

Seriously, I watched a Twitch streamer basically walk onto an airplane the other day because she had booked it a few days earlier. They have been flying news reporters into Kiev every night for NBC Nightly News up until last night.

Holy shit, 1450 pages...
Can you guys please basicly explain what happened since 1103-d page?

We are already dead, the missiles launched days ago. This is actually Hell. Welcome.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I swear to God, the incessant need to create these pointless juvenile analogies to a complex geopolitical situation is leading the vociferously pro-Ukraine people to a kind of madness.

I agree, this is EXACTLY like the time Voldemort took over Hogwarts and furthermore (1/57)

So, what's the current possibility of this escalating into WW3?

Eh, who the fuck knows? Nobody in 1914 thought WW1 would be such a clusterfuck. People were mostly desperate for anything but war in 1939 and 1941, but it happened anyway. I don't think Putin, Biden, and the rest of the gang actually want WW3, unlike the class of 39, but if they don't stop escalating we might just get the IRL sequel to Fallout: New Vegas we've all been waiting for.

And if that happens I'd like to think KF will move to making fun of any surviving troons on shortwave radio.

Genuinely curious to learn where the Russian military stands in terms of equipment quality.

Pretty good overall but generally behind the West, and definitely way behind the US Army and Air Force.

 

[Oxous]

These are the same people who told lawmakers there were totally WMDs in Iraq. Again I really don't want to carry Vodka for Ivan, but these assclowns are utterly unreliable and untrustworthy, especially after the last 2 years of Kung Flu bullshit.

This is unironically dumber than WMDs in Iraq. At least Iraq was actually trying to build a nuclear reactor, until the Israelis blew it up.

 

[Breadbassket]

Footage of what is apparently US Apache helicopters and a Black Hawk landing in Poland on February 25, 2022. These choppers were sent from Greece to Poland in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

 

[Coccxys]

The absolute state of Langley these days.
>the U.S. and Western powers do not believe that this will be a short war. The U.K. foreign secretary estimated it would be a 10-year war. Lawmakers at the Capitol were told Monday it is likely to last 10, 15 or 20 years — and that ultimately, Russia will lose.

NATO backed insurgency and glowies might be too much for Russia to be asked dealing with, especially if it gets expensive with current sanctions so they might not be totally wrong. The war won't go on that long though, some phony peace treaty will be signed at gun point sooner or later and Ukraine will be a vassal state.

 

[No. 7 cat]

At some point Churchill said something along lines

"You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war."

The thing was that if Nevillle Chamberlain had dashed into war immediately rather than making the bad deals he did, the effects of severe cuts which Churchill had played his part, and which Chamberlain had started to reverse, might have had led to a very bad result. Chamberlain was a Christian businessman who hoped that Hitler would at least keep his word in part for a time. Hitler did not, but it bought time. Remember that Churchill gave us the horror of Gallipoli which itself gave the depraved CUP of Grand Vizier Talit Pasha the legitimacy to slaughter 1.2 million Armenians and expel many of the Rum, a task which Kemal Ataturk completed. His post Great War efforts in Mesopotamia were not glorious either. War should be avoided unless there is a good chance of winning. Dishonour is a matter for the pompous.

NATO backed insurgency and glowies might be too much for Russia to be asked dealing with, especially if it gets expensive with current sanctions so they might not be totally wrong. The war won't go on that long though, some phony peace treaty will be signed at gun point sooner or later and Ukraine will be a vassal state.

The MInsk Accord already gave Putin veto over Ukraine via his puppet pretend Republics, but I suppose that might have taken years he didn't have, and confused Joe and retard Kamala might be replaced by capable people later.

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Nigga can you stop posting posting this fucker and think it's confirmed? Guy is as much of a Russian propagandist as the mainstream media is for Ukraine stop believing this shit without a grain of salt

That was his whole point of posting it. It's an old post that aged like milk, showing the Russian mentality.

 

[Douglas Reynholm]

I memed this up just for you

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Top notch fella. Almost beats watching the war footage with Majestic, Boney M Rasputin playing in the background.

 

[emuemuemu]

The Russiaboos are coping over the damage the economic sanctions are doing and the Ukrainefags are coping over the fact that Ukraine will cease to exist as a independent nation within a week or 2. It leads to a lot of dumb assumptions.

Ukraine is not independent that's the whole fucking point. Their democratically elected president was overthrow in a CIA coup in 2014 and they've been a western puppet state ever since. And sanctions go both way dude, as you'll find out next week at the gas station.

 

[Jack Awful]

I swear to God, the incessant need to create these pointless juvenile analogies to a complex geopolitical situation is leading the vociferously pro-Ukraine people to a kind of madness.

They're totally unwilling or unable to look at this event as it actually is, rather than the contrived mental model they've invented.

Again, I think Russia is in the wrong here but it's frightening to see how quick and easy it is to whip the population up into thinking a certain way, especially about war.

It reminds me of the Peaceful George Floyd Riots.

 

[Pissmaster]

Vice President Kamala Harris explaining the conflict on a show for niggers:
“Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine so basically that’s wrong.”

It'd be great if she didn't talk down to black people like they're all too fucking retarded to think for themselves, but I guess refusing to assume one's intelligence based on their race makes me a terrible person

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Tuning back in for a bit to remind that Ukraine has allegedly just destroyed over 9000 Russian vehicles.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1498799589100605444?t=gWiNNv00OPeaDcdRoqjH2w&s=19

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Does anyone have some good resources (print, video, whatever) on learning about all the events surrounding Russia/Ukraine leading up to this mess? Ukraine post-USSR, their color revolution, Crimea, etc.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eXZWEAYCqLdD5-h071-Fc0irNSvXQgEI/view

You can try reading this, if you're autistic enough. Some of it is poorly translated.

 

[Autopsy]

Definitely.

I have no idea if that's supposed to be ironic, but I do want to make it clear that obviously Russia is winning, you would have to be delusional to think otherwise.
The question is how fast and cleanly are they winning, and if it is as fast or clean as you would expect from the Russia everyone has been conditioned to expect from years of US defense, Russian defense, and mass media propaganda. No, it is not. The other new factor is that Ukraine holding out longer means more economic pressure on Russia, who did not budget for such strict sanctions or such a long engagement.
I personally think Russia will probably stick it out and get a long-term gain, but I hope that Russia's shit showing wakes people up to meme tankie Russia military da best mythology. It certainly has been a rude awakening for the DC and Brussels defense paranoiacs.

 

[naffatune]

Not sure if anyone knows already, but I came across this Russian Telegram channel called "rtf200_now".

It's basically a channel dedicated to collecting footage and images of dead or captured Russian soldiers, and attempting to figure out their identities. Needless to say, it ain't for the faint of heart

As you can imagine, not a lot of dead bodies have been identified. After quickly perusing the channel, I could only find one.

Here's the link.

 

[LUNEKO]

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This is the perfect encapsulation on why this war is so fucked up.
>The general fog of war as both armies don't want their troops to be tracked
>The propaganda machine churning at unprecedented rates by all agencies in the world to support their favorite team
>The retarded blue checkmarks eating it all up and trying to paint all of this like a marvel movie
>The unique circumstances of Ukraine history and relationship to both east and west, Nazi Germany and the USSR
>The official statements given by governments and things like NATO, UN and EU that don't match reality
All of it is surprisingly unique because of the internet and even the US wars of the middle east didn't had this kind of stuff because most of the middle east had barely any net infrastructure, but now 2 countries with social media are quite literally shitposting as a war strategy and roping in the entire world to see.
Truly we are living in amazing times

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Ukraine has allegedly just destroyed over 9000 Russian vehicles.

Oh my God..the Merge is real.