Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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A_Callow_Youth said:
I'll keep saying it: Putin wanted to take Kiev without a fight no later than sundown on day 2. That didn't happen, and now he's realizing that this isn't the fall of Afghanistan, he fucked up, and the only option left is to keep going and hope it all works out.
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That is not how this works. Jesus christ. This isn't call of duty. Staging alone took the Russians months. Inside their own country.
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He is still a manlet totalitarian. Probably got burnt by a Tinder date and said fuck it.
 
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A Logging Company said:
I think they underestimated how huge the backlash from the West would be. I don't think the counted on how NPCish the modern west is, and how said NPCs can be whipped into a fanatical frenzy so fast that they begin to pressure not just governments, but every imaginable organization and institution on earth. Probably makes the old KGB agents feel a little envious.

I really wonder if they had a crystal ball to see the result now if they could have gone through with the invasion.
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I'm also of the opinion they didn't anticipate such a horrible reaction.

From what I know about European politics only the Baltic states and maybe to an extent other former eastern block nations really ever took the "Russian menace" seriously after the USSR collapsed, the general public in western Europe essentially just stopped seeing the point in being a part of NATO or even having a capable military at all, aside from France and Greece who had their own specific reasons. It was entirely the the result of their governments continuity and bureaucracy that they even maintained their current abilities.

Aside for a brief time after that airliner was downed this is the first time I can ever really recall the general public expressing the sentiment that their leaders are being to soft on Russia and lax on security. And this is much more intense, even now after all that's been done already and promised they're still screaming for more, its a drastic shift.

Mr Bunny said:
They'll have to let go of any claims they have on Russia.
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Even if they still gave a shit about those lands its not like NATO hasn't bent the rules before, and there's never been a more likely time for that to happen.

Several NATO members don't recognize Kosovo to this very day yet we still have permanent presence there decades after the intervention.
 
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Saleh said:
The only thing Putin gives a shit about is oil and gas.

Those are the pilars of his military and that's the only thing that matters.
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If Russia does end up completely taking over Ukraine, I'm kind of wondering what is going to happen with the Ukrainian gas/oil companies like Burisma. Presumably, they're not going to let them continue to lauder money for US politicians.
 
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Socrates said:
I'm thinking they'll hold out on it as a virtue signal until it's obvious that Russia never intends to give back east Ukraine, and then they'll quietly change it while nobody is looking.
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Probably. I also see people for years getting mad if you say Kiev instead of Kyiv because they just learned where Ukraine was on a map.
 
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Vesperus said:
Did I just get lobotomised via youtube?

Holy shit.
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The irony is that through the ebonics she gives a much more informed assessment than most pundits and talking heads. Man we live in a world where Onion knockoffs are giving better assessments to geo-political happenings than most major news networks.
 
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mr.moon1488 said:
If Russia does end up completely taking over Ukraine, I'm kind of wondering what is going to happen with the Ukrainian gas/oil companies like Burisma. Presumably, they're not going to let them continue to lauder money for US politicians.
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I mean they'll probably be nationalised and be given to Gazprom or something. No reason to keep it around.
 
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mr.moon1488 said:
If Russia does end up completely taking over Ukraine, I'm kind of wondering what is going to happen with the Ukrainian gas/oil companies like Burisma. Presumably, they're not going to let them continue to lauder money for US politicians.
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Probably Putin is thinking about those trillions of dolars in Natural gas found in Ukraine.
 
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