Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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2 reasons,

1. The west is propping them up.
2. They are not cowards.
In my opinion this has nothing to do with cowardice but with plain stupidity, yes a minority can win against the odds but when you send babushka to the front-lines you have already lost the war. If you see the losses an untrained mob incur when going against the military(Arabian spring for example) there is no glory only suffering. When you are alive there is always a chance to fight back, dead people dont.
 
Why doesn't Ukraine surrender?, they aren't gonna win from Russia in a thousand years and if Putin is going with the standard Russia army protocol, and take of the velvet gloves i fear Ukraine isn't existing anymore. I don't believe we have seen the real army in action only fresh trainee's and disposables.
Ukraine on the other hand is arming prisoners and don't seem to hesitate to send children into the fire. This is gonna be a giant loss of life for Ukraine and the majority who gonna and up death ar butchers, bakers, students, not even military.
Why didn't the Afghans surrender to the the Russians or Americans? Who the fuck wants to live under Russia? 90% of the faggots here that suck Russian cock would never ever live there willyingly.
 
You'd think the NatSoc would understand the power of nationalism in a back-to-the-wall situation. Nope, gotta be the Jews, any reasonable person would have just given up the moment the Russians showed up outside Berlin.
He's not wrong, it's apparent that Zelensky doesn't care about saving Ukrainian lives. You will stay and you will throw yourself into the meat grinder while he tries to blow this up into World War 3.
 
Why doesn't Ukraine surrender?, they aren't gonna win from Russia in a thousand years and if Putin is going with the standard Russia army protocol, and take of the velvet gloves i fear Ukraine isn't existing anymore.
If we want to go into full-retard layman speculation, I can try at it. So long as you take everything with roughly a Dead Sea's quantity of salt.
There's a few reasons for Ukraine not to surrender right away, the main thing being that the longer this takes, the worse it is for Putin, the worse it is for Russia. Also, the worse it is for Ukraine- it's a game of chicken. You're right in that Ukraine doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of actually defeating the Russian army militarily, but the funny thing about wars is that it's not always about the tactical side or the equipment or killing everybody. "Winning" is off the table, but Zelenskyy can threaten to make Putin's victory as painful as he can.
Which isn't a meager threat because it's safe to assume Putin wants this to be over as quickly as possible. I'm not a psychic and I'm not a brain parasite sucking on Putin's scalp, but it's reasonable to think that the plan was basically to kick the Ukrainian army's teeth in, seize the eastern seperatist territories, and then offer talks to come away with what he really wants, which is the land with people in it that actually like him and not the rest of the country that hates him.
Is it moral or wise for Zelenskyy and the West to play chicken against Russia using the blood of their people and the future of their country? I wouldn't say so, but then, I'm not a politician, I'm a retard on the internet on a shitpost gossip forum. You get what you pay for at this restaurant.
I don't believe we have seen the real army in action only fresh trainee's and disposables.
This isn't true. The VDV for example are not fresh trainees nor disposable, and trying to execute a fast modern maneuver war with any troops you could consider "disposable" would be incredibly unwise. The fuckups and failures thus far aren't a sign of individual incompetence, but of operational overconfidence. Russia hasn't been using all its assets like it could for whatever reason, such as their vastly superior air force, and I'm inclined to say it's because they expected Ukraine to just fall over and be too scared to put up a fight because it's one they couldn't possibly hope to win.
Yet see, you can easily win a fight with a rabid raccoon, but that doesn't mean you'll come out feeling like you gained anything after stomping its brains out.
Ukraine on the other hand is arming prisoners and don't seem to hesitate to send children into the fire. This is gonna be a giant loss of life for Ukraine and the majority who gonna and up death are butchers, bakers, students, not even military.
It's impossible to speak authoritatively on anything with the information situation being the way it is now, but I sincerely hope that a lot of this is smoke and mirrors and not an actual intent to militarize civilians. Because that's how it becomes war crime hour in a war that already didn't need to happen if the diplomats involved didn't all have their heads in their asses and a devil may care attitude.
 
Proof? I mean thats a bold claim. It's one thing not to be able to leave the country its another to not be allowed to surrender when bested. I would like to see Proof of that claim please.
I said it are rumours so I have no proof. It's from pro-Russian websites so you have to take it with a grain of salt.
Although I must say that Russian propaganda seems to match more with reality than Ukraine propaganda.
 
Why didn't the Afghans surrender to the the Russians or Americans? Who the fuck wants to live under Russia? 90% of the faggots here that suck Russian cock would never ever live there willyingly.
Moslim extremists who lived a life waging war vs a farmer whom only experience with fire arms is hunting rabbits. I dont care about Putin or Zelensky i just see a massive waste of life.
 
Moslim extremists who lived a life waging war vs a farmer whom only experience with fire arms is hunting rabbits. I dont care about Putin or Zelensky i just see a massive waste of life.
Unorganised resistance is a massive waste of life. Not saying it won’t work on some levels, but at the end of the day one must consider if the price paid is worth.
 
In my opinion this has nothing to do with cowardice but with plain stupidity, yes a minority can win against the odds but when you send babushka to the front-lines you have already lost the war. If you see the losses an untrained mob incur when going against the military(Arabian spring for example) there is no glory only suffering. When you are alive there is always a chance to fight back, dead people dont.
Not really them fighting seems to Piss off the Pro-Russia crowd so what they are doing is right, The west is constantly trying to rig this war while Ukrainians buy time, Basically this is causing a lot of damage to the Russians. People are dying anyways so fuck it may as well get as many punches in while your superior opponent tries to ass fuck you.
 
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Not really them fighting seems to Piss off the Pro-Russia crowd so what they are doing is right, The west is constantly trying to rig this war while Ukrainians buy time, Basically this is causing a lot of damage to the Russians. People are dying anyways so fuck it may as well get as many punches in while your superior opponent tries to ass fuck you.
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He's not wrong, it's apparent that Zelensky doesn't care about saving Ukrainian lives. You will stay and you will throw yourself into the meat grinder while he tries to blow this up into World War 3.
And Hitler's last desperate hope was to hold out long enough for the Americans and the Russians to start shooting at each other and forget about him. This is how nations with a will to live go down.
 
Proof? I mean thats a bold claim. It's one thing not to be able to leave the country its another to not be allowed to surrender when bested. I would like to see Proof of that claim please.
Well as far as the mayores surrendering this is a statement about one who did

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(Though this is from an Indian source and they've thrown in with Putin so make of it what you will).
 
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Why didn't the Afghans surrender to the the Russians or Americans?

They did. The CIA went in with cardboard boxes full of money and bribed Taliban leaders into switching sides. The cities were quickly subdued.

The resistance fighters were able to keep operating because they controlled terrain that's basically impossible to occupy, and also because fighting in the mountains is pretty much all Afghans can imagine doing with their lives. Ukraine isn't like that, and can't really afford to get a large swathe of its younger people killed.
 
Why doesn't Ukraine surrender?, they aren't gonna win from Russia in a thousand years and if Putin is going with the standard Russia army protocol, and take of the velvet gloves i fear Ukraine isn't existing anymore. I don't believe we have seen the real army in action only fresh trainee's and disposables.
Ukraine on the other hand is arming prisoners and don't seem to hesitate to send children into the fire. This is gonna be a giant loss of life for Ukraine and the majority who gonna and up death ar butchers, bakers, students, not even military.
Same reason Soviet Union didn't surrender to Germany
 
You'd think the NatSoc would understand the power of nationalism in a back-to-the-wall situation. Nope, gotta be the Jews, any reasonable person would have just given up the moment the Russians showed up outside Berlin.
This is an obvious apples to oranges comparison. Particularly since fighting for nationalism in a globalist nation is impossible. Let's assume Ukraine somehow wins a glorious victory. The only difference will be that rather than the Ukrainian flag being taken off buildings and replaced with a Russian flag is that the Ukrainian flag will be taken off buildings and replaced with a pride flag.

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Oh yeah, and the niggers that get flooded in will rape more women, rob more liquor stores, and burn more cities down than Ivan can even dream about.
 
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