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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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I feel like a this sums up a lot of the russia simping poltards in here
You should also post what he was answered.
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Well, there are still many countries, especially eastern ones, that haven't joined the west in sanctioning Russia. Either because they're friendly, dependent on something, or just didn't have the will or power to sanction Russia. China could serve as the middleman to circumvent the sanctions, as both Russia and China have demonstrated in the sanctions of other countries like Cuba, NK, and Iran

If that was the case, the question would be how willing the west are on pursuing Russia by tightening the sanctions' loopholes. That's going to take a lot of works and time, which I doubted the west are willing to commit. I'm hoping I'm wrong though

That said, I do know of the limit to this tactic, especially when you consider that China also has a lot of problems on their plate already, as you have shown us as examples. This then begs the question, how much China is willing to shoulder this burden to keep Russia, and Putin, survive as an ally against the west. China works with a very Zero-Sum Game thinking, the victory of the west over Russia would be considered a massive loss by China, and they definitely won't let that happen

But again, as you say, there's going to be a limit to what China can do. And once they see no profit in helping Russia, they will definitely pull the plug. But that's for the future, I believe, of which I don't know when that will happen
It's quite bold to assume China really needs Russia, especially Russia that is this unpredictable, as an ally. An ally In what, exactly? If China has to choose between west and Russia, It's quite obvious which one it will be.
 
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I don't know this is true or not, but if it does, then the Russians are still being optimistic during this stage of the war
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makes the whole US wanting to get zelensky out of the Ukraine, seem soo suspect. Have the current guy who wanted to investigate the current POTUS son for corruption flee, oh hey looks like we made a deal and put former puppet back in power.

Who is wanting regime change here?
 
But again, as you say, there's going to be a limit to what China can do. And once they see no profit in helping Russia, they will definitely pull the plug. But that's for the future, I believe, of which I don't know when that will happen
Alternatively, China could seize Siberia if they see Russia as a lost cause, using what's left of the Russian military to stall for time while they take over Siberia's petroleum reserves. It would nominally look like aiding Ukraine from attacking Russia's rear while acquiring more raw resources that the West relies upon. Aircraft carriers are thirsty fuckers after all.
 
Alternatively, China could seize Siberia if they see Russia as a lost cause, using what's left of the Russian military to stall for time while they take over Siberia's petroleum reserves. It would nominally look like aiding Ukraine from attacking Russia's rear while acquiring more raw resources that the West relies upon. Aircraft carriers are thirsty fuckers after all.
So the thing about chinese security forces and the PLA is that they are very very corrupt. Like when you join the PLA you have to pay them to join.

So besides a nuclear exchange you have a army thats never really trained, for war. mostly for marching and bullying their own people.
 
So the thing about chinese security forces and the PLA is that they are very very corrupt. Like when you join the PLA you have to pay them to join.

So besides a nuclear exchange you have a army thats never really trained, for war. mostly for marching and bullying their own people.
But Russian resistance in Siberia is going to be token, so even if they are as laughably incompetent as the Russians, it won't matter that much when hinterland border guards figure out that there's no reinforcements coming.

On a related note, what if Ukraine, who is now applying for EU membership, decides to counter-invade, seize Moscow and then uses all those Javelins and drones provided by the EU and point them at the EU for leverage ten years later?
 
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I feel like a this sums up a lot of the russia simping poltards in here

I like Putin's based as fuck stance on quashing Faggot and Tranny shit, and general rejection of Globohomo. I admire the man playing his political games and being able to keep Russia in line.

That respect does not extend to invading a neighboring country because they might join an organization you're not a fan of. They don't even have the token reasoning the US has when they invade a place.

War during globalism is an example why that is always a bad system.

One thing goes wrong and suddenly all the supply lines become disrupted, which gives the elites the perfect excuse to jack up prices of shit like fuel.

Maybe in an attempt to make us care about this conflict.


Oh, I also recall someone saying western men are cowards for not wanting to get involved in a draft.

I then asked "Well, WHY you think that is?"

Then I went on and on how the propaganda isnt working this time and western society constantly put traditional western men down for YEARS, they have burned down or bankrupt innocent small businesses to serve their own interests. Wasted so much life and resources on a pointless conflict for over 20 years. Messed with our elections. Normalised the worst things for the sake of "muh acceptance" and on and on.

I concluded with "The elites arent worth dying for"

Why go, suffer, and possibly die so that 100 years later a bunch of people who come from backwater countries or urban circlejerks can declare you and your battle brothers some sort of *ist and tear down your monuments, disinter your corpse (if there was anything left to bury), and have schools teach the future generations you are the worst scum before erasing you completely.

Translated:
"The Ukrainian National Agency for the Prevention of Corruption (NAPC) informed that the inhabitants of Ukraine do not have to declare in property declarations Russian tanks and other equipment obtained as a result of the fighting. Battle trophies are not reflected in the tax return."



If you like your tank, you can keep it.
 
But Russian resistance in Siberia is going to be token, so even if they are as laughably incompetent as the Russians, it won't matter that much when hinterland border guards figure out that there's no reinforcements coming.

On a related note, what if Ukraine, who is now applying for EU membership, decides to counter-invade, seize Moscow and then uses all those Javelins and drones provided by the EU and point them at the EU for leverage ten years later?
This one was good. I'll take whatever you're smoking for 20. Ukraine doesn't have manpower to invade Russia. No-one who has attempted it on the past few centuries haven't had. And why the fuck would Ukraine want to ever attack against EU?
 
Apparently, a leaked Russian document reveals that Putin authorized the invasion on Janurary 18th, which doesn't look good for him. The document also says that the invasion is supposed to be from February 20th to March 6th for Moscow to achieve its goals. They started the war on the 24th and now they have four days to achieve their military aims before their initial invasion plans are officially considered a failure by Putin's advisors. The war wont end on the 6th and with this information I can guess they'll fight harder to keep them out of the cities until the 6th
There is always the Grozny-way.
 
I like Putin's based as fuck stance on quashing Faggot and Tranny shit, and general rejection of Globohomo. I admire the man playing his political games and being able to keep Russia in line.
As I've already said before, Putin's stance against "globohomo" is a scam designed to gain support from the right-wing in the West. His country is full of degeneracy, abortion, AIDS, alcohol abuse, and he's done nothing to address such problems. Even if his country didn't just get economically blasted back to the Dark Ages due to the sanctions, even if he and the West got along nicely, the fact that he didn't solve his nation's real problems means that there won't even be a Russia 50 years from now.

He also did not keep Russia in line. He just befriended the oligarchs who sucked the country's economic opportunities dry, and co-opted them with the state. Instead of reigning them in and creating real competition in a market economy, he just made sure that these fat cats can use the state as a shield instead of using mobsters to take out competition. It's basically a mafia state in all but name.

Putin's just butt-mad that his side lost the Cold War and didn't get to become the "globohomo" world hegemony. Not to mention that his whole justification for this war is "MUH UKRAINIAN NAZIS!" and he's also bringing in tons of immigration from third-world countries to make up for his nation's declining population and military. He's just as much a woke activist as the rest of the western world is, he was just better at hiding it from the morons on the internet.

That respect does not extend to invading a neighboring country because they might join an organization you're not a fan of. They don't even have the token reasoning the US has when they invade a place.
At least American soldiers know when they're going into a combat zone. They don't find out 1 hour before they invade a foreign land.
 
Russian Pantsir S1 on the barbie
Nigger how fucking badly do you have to be screwing up everything for your enemies to be able to stroll up and blow up one of your AA vehicles. There's not even any signs of combat around it (or I assume the camerman would have been including that as well), which means shits so fucked up for the Russians they're not even carrying out basic fucking security
"The Ukrainian National Agency for the Prevention of Corruption (NAPC) informed that the inhabitants of Ukraine do not have to declare in property declarations Russian tanks and other equipment obtained as a result of the fighting. Battle trophies are not reflected in the tax return."
That's actually pretty based. They could fetch a decent price on the collectors market for anyone who wants to sell one.

Aircraft carriers are thirsty fuckers after all.
Only if they ever actually go anywhere or do anything. I mean in all the years China has had them the furthest they appear to have gone is Okinawa
 
This one was good. I'll take whatever you're smoking for 20. Ukraine doesn't have manpower to invade Russia. No-one who has attempted it on the past few centuries haven't had. And why the fuck would Ukraine want to ever attack against EU?
But now they've got those Reddit battalions and every other faggot virtue signaling to join them, arms aplenty from said faggots, and Russia will probably be suffering a color revolution soon so resistance will be token with worn out Russians that don't care if Putin is deposed.

EDIT: Also, to add why Ukraine would want to attack the EU, they can't right now, but if they invade Russia and gain control of its infrastructure to produce more of those arms that the EU provided, they could be the crack troops of a European army and then negotiate membership with the EU on significantly more favorable terms. Instead of two weak slav nations slapping each other, Ukraine could lead a big slav nation pointing its guns at the EU that funded them in at least 5 years, ideally 10.
 
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Nigger how fucking badly do you have to be screwing up everything for your enemies to be able to stroll up and blow up one of your AA vehicles. There's not even any signs of combat around it (or I assume the camerman would have been including that as well), which means shits so fucked up for the Russians they're not even carrying out basic fucking security
That's what happens when you take an armed convoy across unfriendly territory when your enemy is armed to the teeth. You get vehicles that cost $14 million a pop, getting blown up by missiles that probably cost less than $180K. For a country that makes less money than New York State, Russia seems to be losing the ecomomic side of this war rather painfully, even without the sanctions.

That's actually pretty based. They could fetch a decent price on the collectors market for anyone who wants to sell one.
I imagine history museums would pay up the ass to get a hold of a Russian MBT.

Only if they ever actually go anywhere or do anything. I mean in all the years China has had them the furthest they appear to have gone is Okinawa
And I imagine they'll stay that way since China has a million other things to do. Like suppressing Uighurs and Hong Kong, as well as fixing their faltering economy and addressing all the tofu-dreg bullshit their construction industry has participated in.

This one was good. I'll take whatever you're smoking for 20. Ukraine doesn't have manpower to invade Russia. No-one who has attempted it on the past few centuries haven't had. And why the fuck would Ukraine want to ever attack against EU?
After this, Ukraine is going to be a proud EU/NATO member.

It also depends on what happens with the Russian military. If the small instances of rebellion snowball into a large military revolt, Ukraine and the rebellious Russian forces could theoretically attack and seize Moscow. With the people's backing, no less.
 
Apparently, a leaked Russian document reveals that Putin authorized the invasion on Janurary 18th, which doesn't look good for him. The document also says that the invasion is supposed to be from February 20th to March 6th for Moscow to achieve its goals. They started the war on the 24th and now they have four days to achieve their military aims before their initial invasion plans are officially considered a failure by Putin's advisors. The war wont end on the 6th and with this information I can guess they'll fight harder to keep them out of the cities until the 6th
What's with the late planning?
 
As I've already said before, Putin's stance against "globohomo" is a scam designed to gain support from the right-wing in the West. His country is full of degeneracy, abortion, AIDS, alcohol abuse, and he's done nothing to address such problems. Even if his country didn't just get economically blasted back to the Dark Ages due to the sanctions, even if he and the West got along nicely, the fact that he didn't solve his nation's real problems means that there won't even be a Russia 50 years from now.

He also did not keep Russia in line. He just befriended the oligarchs who sucked the country's economic opportunities dry, and co-opted them with the state. Instead of reigning them in and creating real competition in a market economy, he just made sure that these fat cats can use the state as a shield instead of using mobsters to take out competition. It's basically a mafia state in all but name.

Eh, I don't know that any country other than Singapore can really be pointing fingers. There is tons of crazy degeneracy shit in EU/US. Sure people Italy aren't injecting bathtub heroin until their limbs rot off, but not like california, london, and berlin aren't overrun with junkies. Not like Italy isn't overrun with cousin-fucking gypsies. And lets not get into Spain and Portugal (because no one cares). Not like San Fransico isn't over run with diseased faggots and the state made it no longer crime to knowingly pozz negholes.
Plus remember that Russians are slavs, so much like niggers its unfair to hold them to the same standards of behavior as actual humans

Its not a scam for right-wing westerners. Its a traditionalist stance to appeal to the 'old guard' at home. Putin doesn't give a fuck about the non-Russian world except as dunces to exploit, everything he does is with a domestic audience in mind. And every leader is just a figurehead for the nobility, which is what the oligarchs are for Russia in all but hereditable titles.

I'm not saying Putin is a good leader, just a strong one who upto this point has played the US & EU like a fiddle by repeatedly showing the failure of the EU (and US) to live up to their purported principals when there is any risk involved. He had no real reason to expect a different reaction this time, and a reminder that up til this weekend, things were on track to be a repeat of 2014: Toothless sanctions, meaningless UN resolutions, more territory that is defacto Russia and appointing another cutie as the new territory's Attorney General.

Putin's just butt-mad that his side lost the Cold War

This right here is where Putin stops being an entertaining strongman for country that can only be ruled by strongmen and starts being legit dangerous. Putin has his eyes on all Soviet Satellites and reforming the USSR in all but name.
 
Guys! Guys! We have some terrible news to report.

EA is removing Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games​

The changes will impact NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile

Electronic Arts has announced that it’s in the process of removing both Russian national teams and the country’s professional clubs from some of its biggest sports games.

That will include NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile; it’s not clear when the teams will be pulled from the game, but the publisher says that it has “initiated processes” for their removal. EA says that the decision was made “in line with our partners at FIFA and UEFA,” as well as the IIHF. Those governing bodies — which manage global and European soccer and international hockey, respectively — recently banned Russian teams from all competitions “until further notice.” In addition to the Russian teams, NHL 22 will also be removing Belarusian clubs as well. The decision does not appear to impact the presence of Russian players in either sport.

“EA Sports stands in solidarity with the Ukrainian people and like so many other voices across the world of football, calls for peace and an end to the invasion of Ukraine,” the company said in its statement. In addition to removing teams, EA says that it is “actively evaluating related changes to other areas of our games.” EA joins other tech companies, including Apple, Facebook, and YouTube, in either altering or removing their services in relation to the Russian invasion.

This isn’t the first time EA has altered its sports games due to real-world events. In 2020, it was forced to change the offensive name of the now-Washington Commanders in Madden, and last year, it removed Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden from the game following an email scandal.

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Guys! Guys! We have some terrible news to report.

EA is removing Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games​

The changes will impact NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile

Electronic Arts has announced that it’s in the process of removing both Russian national teams and the country’s professional clubs from some of its biggest sports games.

That will include NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile; it’s not clear when the teams will be pulled from the game, but the publisher says that it has “initiated processes” for their removal. EA says that the decision was made “in line with our partners at FIFA and UEFA,” as well as the IIHF. Those governing bodies — which manage global and European soccer and international hockey, respectively — recently banned Russian teams from all competitions “until further notice.” In addition to the Russian teams, NHL 22 will also be removing Belarusian clubs as well. The decision does not appear to impact the presence of Russian players in either sport.

“EA Sports stands in solidarity with the Ukrainian people and like so many other voices across the world of football, calls for peace and an end to the invasion of Ukraine,” the company said in its statement. In addition to removing teams, EA says that it is “actively evaluating related changes to other areas of our games.” EA joins other tech companies, including Apple, Facebook, and YouTube, in either altering or removing their services in relation to the Russian invasion.

This isn’t the first time EA has altered its sports games due to real-world events. In 2020, it was forced to change the offensive name of the now-Washington Commanders in Madden, and last year, it removed Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden from the game following an email scandal.

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OH NO! HOW WILL THE RUSSIANS EVER RECOVER?!
 
Guys! Guys! We have some terrible news to report.

EA is removing Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games​

The changes will impact NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile

Electronic Arts has announced that it’s in the process of removing both Russian national teams and the country’s professional clubs from some of its biggest sports games.

That will include NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile; it’s not clear when the teams will be pulled from the game, but the publisher says that it has “initiated processes” for their removal. EA says that the decision was made “in line with our partners at FIFA and UEFA,” as well as the IIHF. Those governing bodies — which manage global and European soccer and international hockey, respectively — recently banned Russian teams from all competitions “until further notice.” In addition to the Russian teams, NHL 22 will also be removing Belarusian clubs as well. The decision does not appear to impact the presence of Russian players in either sport.

“EA Sports stands in solidarity with the Ukrainian people and like so many other voices across the world of football, calls for peace and an end to the invasion of Ukraine,” the company said in its statement. In addition to removing teams, EA says that it is “actively evaluating related changes to other areas of our games.” EA joins other tech companies, including Apple, Facebook, and YouTube, in either altering or removing their services in relation to the Russian invasion.

This isn’t the first time EA has altered its sports games due to real-world events. In 2020, it was forced to change the offensive name of the now-Washington Commanders in Madden, and last year, it removed Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden from the game following an email scandal.

Link to the article.
The worst thing to happen to Russia since the Soviet Union collapse.
 
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