Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Disheveled Human]

Ukraines number of dead Russians seem more in line then what Russia is claiming 5k seems likely considering all the busted up convoys, drone strikes and the fact they have been fighting in several cities for 5+ days. sub 500 dead Russians, no way. Thats a gross undercount.

 

[OG Swolemaster]

freeing criminals to use as canon fodder

History shows that this is one of the most based things that you can do though.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Honestly by the time you get hit with one of those, duck and cover isn't going to help. God bless these crazy suicidal slavs for getting us all the quality explosion footage.

You're better off leaving the window OPEN - at least then there's a chance the blast wave doesn't shatter it, and you can still get that footage.

 

[BradCarter]

Ukraines number of dead Russians seem more in line then what Russia is claiming 5k seems likely considering all the busted up convoys, drone strikes and the fact they have been fighting in several cities for 5+ days. sub 500 dead Russians, no way. Thats a gross undercount.

Yes both numbers are bullshit because Ukraine can't count dead Russians behind Russian lines, and Russia obviously has motive to lie. Everyone here with an IQ above 90 realizes this

 

[The Ugly One]

Not who you were asking, but I'll respond with my own Western opinion. Bear in mind I actually think there are (generally) justifiable reasons for both sides to be at war:

He's repeatedly tried to escalate the situation to involve NATO in some form or another. He's been completely irresponsible in his handling of both foreign and domestic assistance. I can understand and respect his desire to hold his ground, but he has displayed a concerning lack of regard for the world at large, to the point that he's legit willing to begin WW3 (a theoretical conflict that would cost millions of lives) to maintain one Slavic state. Additionally, he has made ridiculous demands of Russia from the get go (though you can argue it's a logical way to begin negotiations). On top of that, one could argue he was partially responsible in the provocation of the Invasion.

Like I said though, there's a certain degree of respect I hold for him trying to hold the line, as misguided as I believe it is.

He doesn't care about preserving a Slavic state so much as preserving his own status within it. "What good is peace if I'm not in charge?" -every despot ever

 

[Hüftpriester]

He's handled it well
You shouldn't shouldn't just hand over your country

>Puts opposition leader on house arrest and shuts down opposition media as soon as Biden enters office
>Uses Azov battalion to oppress Ethnic Russians in Donbas
>Freaks out once he realizes Russia is invading. Hands out military weapons to any civilian on the 3rd day of the conflict.
>Forcibly conscripts all men from 18-60.
>Blows up his own infrastructure to delay the inevitable.
>Probably plenty of Elfish behavior I'm unaware of.

Fuck this guy, he could've prevented a lot of the bloodshed.

 

[ZMOT]

History shows that this is one of the most based things that you can do though.

if you actually use them as such. opening the cell door, hand them a rifle and expect them to heroically die for comedian and country hardly goes as planned.

 

[Narcotics]

Not who you were asking, but I'll respond with my own Western opinion. Bear in mind I actually think there are (generally) justifiable reasons for both sides to be at war:

He's repeatedly tried to escalate the situation to involve NATO in some form or another. He's been completely irresponsible in his handling of both foreign and domestic assistance. I can understand and respect his desire to hold his ground, but he has displayed a concerning lack of regard for the world at large, to the point that he's legit willing to begin WW3 (a theoretical conflict that would cost millions of lives) to maintain one Slavic state. Additionally, he has made ridiculous demands of Russia from the get go (though you can argue it's a logical way to begin negotiations).

He's practically begging nato to deploy troops in ukraine even after being told no many times. trying to get other countries involved with emotional blackmail (arm your civilians with 0 military knowledge and get them to be shot by ebil ruskos for twitter photos) unnecessarily in what's (currently) a regional thing. The only thing one can hope for is that other countries aren't retarded enough to fall for this but don't get your hopes up, who knows what can happen tomorrow on this gay earth.

 

[Mr Bunny]

History shows that this is one of the most based things that you can do though.

Only if you're invading, then their dicks become a weapon, as defenders, they're suddenly raping you.

 

[capitalBBustard]

Ukraines number of dead Russians seem more in line then what Russia is claiming 5k seems likely considering all the busted up convoys, drone strikes and the fact they have been fighting in several cities for 5+ days. sub 500 dead Russians, no way. Thats a gross undercount.

lol, 5k is way more off than 500, current estimates are like 1500 dead each

 

[Disheveled Human]

>Puts opposition leader on house arrest and shuts down opposition media as soon as Biden enters office
>Uses Azov battalion to oppress Ethnic Russians in Donbas
>Freaks out once he realizes Russia is invading. Hands out military weapons to any civilian on the 3rd day of the conflict.
>Forcibly conscripts all men from 18-60.
>Blows up his own infrastructure to delay the inevitable.
>Probably plenty of Elfish behavior I'm unaware of.

Fuck this guy, he could've prevented a lot of the bloodshed.

Wahhh why not just surrender instead of fighting. These people have hearts of steel faggot something you will never possess.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Forcefully conscripting all your young people, civilians, to die pointlessly against the Russians while freeing criminals to use as canon fodder for media agitprop is pretty scummy.

Excepting, of course, that it's actually working.

 

[Breadbassket]

Russians captured a Saxon armored personnel carrier. These are mainly used by the United Kingdom but at some point Ukraine purchased 75 second-hand vehicles. Judging from the markings it is a Saxon AT105A (Ambulance variant)

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Just saw a Russian logistics vehicle of some kind roll through the intersection in the upper-left corner ("Cam 1 Nova Kakhovka Mayakovsky Street"). I'm not sure what the status of that area is (i.e., in whose hands it currently is in).

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He might have gotten lost or we might see some more activity there.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Wahhh why not just surrender instead of fighting. These people have hearts of steel faggot something you will never possess.

Why don't you go help them then, gimmic poster? Ukraine is accepting foreign mercenaries now.

 

[Happy Fish]

Ukraines number of dead Russians seem more in line then what Russia is claiming 5k seems likely considering all the busted up convoys, drone strikes and the fact they have been fighting in several cities for 5+ days. sub 500 dead Russians, no way. Thats a gross undercount.

After all the Independent journos of Twitter told us that the Ghost of Kyiv killed at least 10000 Russians with xir beautiful feminine penis alone

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

if you actually use them as such. opening the cell door, hand them a rifle and expect them to heroically die for comedian and country hardly goes as planned.

Eh it was relatively common practice up until the late 1800s. Especially for artillery crews. Ye Olde cannons were a wee bit less safe and you were probably at just as much risk from your own cannon killing you as the enemy.

 

[BradCarter]

Russians captured a Saxon armored personnel carrier. These are mainly used by the United Kingdom but at some point Ukraine purchased 75 second-hand vehicles. Judging from the markings it is a Saxon AT105A (Ambulance variant)
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What a hideous vehicle. Has the profile of a fucked up face. One eyed, big nosed, open mouth.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Honestly by the time you get hit with one of those, duck and cover isn't going to help.

Oh yes it is. Lightning and thunder don't meet you at the same time. Same deal here. If there is a flash, seek cover from the shock wave. You have a bit of time and it could be critical to your safety. Duck and cover.

That is exactly why they taught it. It does help.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Excepting, of course, that it's actually working.

If conscription didn't exist we most likely would have lost WWII.