Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[A nameless trool]

I suspect Simple Zack's thought processes are more erm, emotional in nature than legal. When he talks about how being able to make a public domain Superman comic would be more worthwhile than making a comic about a Superman-analogue like Plutonian, Hyperion, etc, the idea is that it's the intangible emotional ties that a reader has with Superman specifically that makes that carries its intrinsic value (as opposed to, say, the story). Sort of like how Ray Kroc saw the value in the emotional sentiment associated with the McDonalds brand in that movie Meyer likes. Specifically, the idea is that when someone looks at a Superman comic the hundreds of stories of Superman they've already read would inform and enrich the reading experience of each subsequent Superman comic, including in theory even if it is in the public domain and made by Richard C. Meyer. Feelings and aesthetics are top priority in all of Meyer's creations, whether it's capturing the feeling of being dropped into issue #300 of a breathing Bronze Age universe that Jawbreakers was going for, the "tijuana toilet comic feeling" of Iron Sights or the dayglo thing that was 499 . Y'know, as opposed to other qualities such as structure, craft, worldbuilding, originality or hard work. He may not have access to the rights to or even refer to the hundreds of Superman stories DC published, but the idea is that the customer would bring his memories of those stories when they read the work.

One problem with this is that the very act of an IP entering the public domain will likely shatter any notion of an unbroken, singular 'Superman' in the reader's mind. Another is that over the past decade DC Comics has needed no outside help with degrading the idea of a consistent single character with its constant devaluation of "continuity" between lax/non-existent editorial and constant reboots/crises. Between lax editorial and contant "Crisis" reboots. Recently, Frog recalled his dealing with former DC Comics President Dan Didio and how he "sperged out" about how it was very important that the DC Comics universe be internally consistent, a concern that Frog dismissed as stupid and an issue that "nobody cares" about and, according to Grant Morrison in a recent Substack interview, used by Scott Snyder as a wedge to stage a coup to oust Didio from his position. I can see why a creator would argue that; things like an enforced "house style" and insistence on a consistent universe all make the creator more interchangeable and subordinate to the publisher-owned intellectual property. But from the perspective of a fan I must disagree - the once-painstakingly maintained illusion that I could take a comic I have and it would inform every subsequent issue of that series I bought, or that I could go back over hundreds of back issues and each would add new context to the stories I've already read as a character passed hands from creator to creator over the decades, may have been DC Comics' most valuable property of all to offer of all.

To put it in simpler terms:
When you were 20 you wanted to fuck that girl, but she was dating this huge asshole you hated. Then married him. Then he died and she got dementia, so you get to fuck her when she is 70 years old.
Most people would have just fucked somebody like her or someone they really liked. YBZ is not most people.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

To put it in simpler terms:
When you were 20 you wanted to fuck that girl, but she was dating this huge asshole you hated. Then married him. Then he died and she got dementia, so you get to fuck her when she is 70 years old.
Most people would have just fucked somebody like her or someone they really liked. YBZ is not most people.

YBZ would probably get that 70yo invalid pregnant. Twice.

 

[A nameless trool]

YBZ would probably get that 70yo invalid pregnant. Twice.

Unless she is white.

 

[BlueKnight]

I suspect Simple Zack's thoughts on this are more erm, emotional in nature than legal.

Is this the reference for Simple Zack? I just wanted to confirm it:

 

[Mister Dongs]

Is this the reference for Simple Zack? I just wanted to confirm it:
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[Strix454]

So Liam Grey totally melted down again today. From what I've heard, he initially got angry over his buddy Raging Golden Eagle doing a stream in support of JDA's current project (high school girl in the crusades). He successfully struck the campaign over a joke cover featuring a parody image. But the campaign came back a little later. He also struck one of the archives for his videos on Odyssee (the orange dojo) and got it taken down.

He then started arguing on twitter with various people about the action he had taken. He quickly slipped into his mental illness "nobody is going to tell Liam Grey what to do" behavior and eventually ended up blocking Yellow Flash. Yellow Flash was one of the few remaining people of any sort who had still been on good terms with him. Liam later did a tweet claiming that he was being harassed by calls to his cell phone while at the doctors office. He was presumably at the doctor's office dealing with the "injury" he sustained when he fought and put the "comicsgate fan" who came to his house into the hospital on February 19th.

FROG and JDA supposedly have received additional email communications supposedly from people around Liam. The first communication was to FROG from supposedly Liam's wife. But these additional communications are from others.

Late in the day, Liam did an inexplicable stream where he basically played a chapter from the book "Nietzsche and the Nazis".. He played a chapter entitled "The origin of slave morality". The chapter is a standard overview of Nietzsche's critique of Christian morality and rejection of it as weakness. After the chapter, Liam made a speech where said "gone are the days where there is going to be any sort of meek humility or compromise for people I believe to be friends. If people want to be a part of what I'm doing get on board. If they don't get out of the way. Do not try to step on me. I am not a slave."

So I guess Liam is rejecting Christianity in favor of Nietzsche's idea of the will to power and the ubermensch. Or maybe he is going full blown nazi. Either way, this seems like a declaration of war on everyone and everything.

 

[Mecha II]

Kenneth Rocafort is working with Rob Liefeld. That would be cool I guess, but it's for Prophet and I've always hated the design of that character.

Not sure what the extent his contribution is, could just be this page in particular, or a whole remaster of Prophet #1 but I can't tell. Looks like the remaster is in anticipation of a new Jake Gyllenhaal lead movie.

robliefeld on Twitter: "🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻" / Twitter

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From what I understand, Prophet is a Religious Captain America, with two badass 90's swords and a face helmet.

Rocafort last I heard was pretty CG friendly, and Liefeld I'm not sure has ever said anything about CG, if he's been angry on twitter it's mostly been directed at the guy who owns the rights to Youngblood.

Im not sure if Rocafort is openly CG, or hesitant to own up to the association. To this I would argue, maybe CG is settling into it's own thing and the controversies aren't as important anymore. Surely someone as high profile as Liefeld working with a CG artist would cause waves with the SJW crowd?

Rocafort's Groken looks amazing. It's not a werewolf or a western, and it looks like he's getting ready to ship.

Kenneth Rocafort on Twitter: "MONTHLY REPORT FOR FEBRUARY Good News…

archived 3 Mar 2022 07:54:23 UTC

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[Mister Dongs]

robliefeld on Twitter: "🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻" / Twitter

archived 3 Mar 2022 07:46:46 UTC

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From what I understand, Prophet is a Religious Captain America, with two badass 90's swords and a face helmet.

Rocafort last I heard was pretty CG friendly, and Liefeld I'm not sure has ever said anything about CG, if he's been angry on twitter it's mostly been directed at the guy who owns the rights to Youngblood.

Im not sure if Rocafort is openly CG, or hesitant to own up to the association. To this I would argue, maybe CG is settling into it's own thing and the controversies aren't as important anymore. Surely someone as high profile as Liefeld working with a CG artist would cause waves with the SJW crowd?

Rocafort is a part of Comicsgate, I suspect it's something to do with the cancel culture mob going after him way back in 2014 over drawing Wonder Girl's tits too big. He just sucks at being a youtuber so his profile isn't as large as some of the others, but if you're willing to launch your IGG on Leroi's channel (now deleted) I'd say you're openly a part of CG.

 

[FROG]

I'm just trying to be the first person on page 1800.

Edit: Nope, didn't work.

 

[The Holmes]

@Simply Outplayed

You are a pants on head schizo fag. Maybe Vikki and Dean need to be institutionalized, but if anyone should go in there with them wearing a safety helmet, it's you. By all means, try to convince everyone else I'm a DEAN CAPO just because I'm calling a schizo-fag out for doing very shizo-fag like things. Around the last time you tried to tag me in your god awful post in the CG thread, you also followed my account for whatever fucking reason.

I make a post over in Weeb Wars about an ISWV cow going on video with his waifu pillow. Said cow tweets about it. This is when schizo-fag shows up on Twitter to tag my cow who has absolutely fuck all to do with CG and Dean to bitch about Dean.

DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@MisterAnime343 Ali Assaf/Da Talks/Dean is a crackhead who had a GoFundMe for his legal defense. He hired Spectre a s a lawyer. To this date not a cent of that GoFundMe money has been spent on a lawyer. Dean, did you spend your GoFundMe money on cocaine? #comicsgate @TheVikkiVerse @SaggyMelonz...

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So I check out his Twitter.

Holy shit, Outplayed. I archived these roughly 11-12 hours ago. At that time, you had well over two dozen tweets all about Dean and Vikki in only 24 hours. Mostly about Dean. You've tried tagging Liam Gray, Donald Delay, even fucking Matt Jarbo. You've QT people who mentioned Vikki back in fucking May and August of last year. You even did more after I took all of these down. There's no fucking end to your schizo obsession. It's very clear you have fuck else going on in life.

Spoiler: Twitter Sperging

DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“Vikki needs to be placed in an Eldercare Facility. She is showing textbook signs of Dementia. Sahe doesn't remember why she is upset or angry anymore. She just lashes out at people because they aren't a ghastly ghoul like she is. Vikki has a crab in the bucket mentality. https://t.co/hbwPkXnxsX”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“https://t.co/7D6RfLC5jP”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“This is a man who is high on cocaine. He is self conscious about his receding hairline. This man is dating a woman 30 years his senior. @TheVikkiVerse #comicsgate https://t.co/99KTEgyvzE”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“DA Talks / Ali Assaf/ Dean if only you had worked and saved money instead of spending your GoFundMe money on cocaine! @TheVikkiVerse @saggymelonz #comicsgate”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@Cityofmanteca I would like to make a noise complaint. There is a balding man on the wrong side of his twenties still living with his parents who appears to be drug affected. He was coping for a while but now he's seething and I'd like for him to keep it down. Thank you. https://t.co/Cf4AJzSOqM”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@TheVikkiVerse @Saggymelonz #comicsgate https://t.co/DCWq78mnAk”

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https://web.archive.org/web/20220303015602/https://twitter.com/Simply_OutKF/status/1499089825928192000

DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@TheVikkiVerse https://t.co/W63fsdL7G7”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@mjarbo @SaggyMelonz where did the money go? https://t.co/D08pASK0po”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@mjarbo @SaggyMelonz where did the money go? https://t.co/D08pASK0po”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@TheVikkiVerse @Saggymelonz Could you please tell us what happened to the GoFundMe money? Wasn't Ali Assaf / Dean supposed to have hired a lawyer? If he didn't, what do you think the money was spent on? https://t.co/OTssvVbSve”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@TheVikkiVerse @DV_Investigates Are you willing to address the allegations that Dean and Vikki are in a relationship? Are you willing to address the allegations that Dean spent his legal defense GoFundMe on cocaine? #comicsgate https://t.co/CTsA35j8Cr”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@DV_Investigates @dubois_fowler @YouTube @TheVikkiVerse Victoria C. Kundert has a lot of opinions on Comics of which she has no experience creating. However, will you answer the question that many have on their lips: How many dog anal glands have you expressed? Also you're old and ugly LOL...

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@DV_Investigates @dubois_fowler @YouTube Dean, can you confirm or deny the serious allegations levied at you by the #ComicsGate community that you spent your GoFundMe money on cocaine and then hired Spectre as your lawyer? https://t.co/BwfUl8R4HA”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@DV_Investigates @dubois_fowler @YouTube "Happy Birthday" - Crackhead https://t.co/AydKK1Orl0”

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Matt Jarbo on Twitter

“@Simply_OutKF @SaggyMelonz That is lost on me”

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DA Talks grifted #comicsgate on Twitter

“@DonalTDeLay Very interesting! Did you know that @TheVikkiVerse has to express the anal glands of dogs every single day that she works? She won't answer the question about whether or not she expresses the anal glands of dogs. Why not? What is wrong with it Vikki? https://t.co/j0huOHG3Kg”

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That isn't all this super sped is up to. He's on a Discord server Dean inhabited briefly where good ol Eli here tried to reach out to Dean. Dean left, and since then, Eli's been tagging anyone who might have/had an association with the cokehead PLEASE PASS THIS ONE TO SENPAI DEAN HE WON'T TALK TO ME!



These two seem to indicate his true motivation.


This isn't about Dean and Vikki being cows. They wouldn't be getting this kind of attention if it weren't for the circus surrounding this lawsuit. You and your faggot friends have an axe to grind back when Altistic Right leaked your super speshul gay op club in the JCeasar thread and half the website showed up to take a shit on all of you for being the massive turbo fags that you are. You're an embarrassment to this website. With all your desperation to wrap your lips around a sand negro's cock, chasing him across all the internet, it's beyond fucking pathetic.

WHY WON'T DEAN ANSWER ME?!

Cows usually clam up when they get hounded by schizo spergs like yourself, it isn't rocket science. Now with your tism fueled flailing, they probably won't be doing shit, especially with you screaming for Dean on every fucking corner of the internet. This is just a friendly PSA to others who may happen upon this thread, so they can take a good look here and hopefully have the good sense to not ever, ever take you seriously.

@Captain Manning I apologize for the earlier spat in the CG thread and lumping you in with these retards.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

Oh you're still salty about me calling you a Dean capo? You know I did that, followed you and just posted some shit to annoy Dean right? Pretty funny imo that you held onto it. I was just going to post it on itself but I figured it would be funnier to mog someone.

I thought you were a capo because you type like a 16 year old kid who spent their first month on /pol/. I saw your post to Captain Manning where you're saying "GAGGLE OF GIGAFAGGOTS" and telling him to kill himself. You didn't know what you were talking about then and you still don't know now. The lore is out there and more interesting than the Comicsgate thread.

Dude just stop taking it all so seriously. We are here to have fun, it's a comedy site.

I've made a few memes and OBVIOUSLY I wanted to make sure Dean saw them as well as everyone in #ComicsGate which is what, 3000 people? As you know he's going through a hard time right now with hiring Spectre as his lawyer and getting owned by Poulter. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

And obviously, I wouldn't know him or anyone here if they didn't fuck with me in the first place. That's why I'm here. Sorry your buddy brings people into your threads about ethics in marvel from 2018. How long are you going to follow this dead boring shit for?

I don't read comics or watch anime. You do. Please tell me more how to live my life.

Thanks for the effort post though it's great to see that you've been paying attention. I've been spamming into the void. Pretty happy its got you tilted.

I don't get what the big deal is, I just wanted people to pass the message along to Dean. I guess he's seen it now

You're upset because my spam ruined your enjoyment of waifu pillows? Good lol

Oh I should add that he fucked us over in October. I had a look at his case, asked a bunch of people and figured I'd just mog him extra hard closer to the date to piss him off as much as possible.

I don't really get how you don't understand that I think he's a cow and I hate him? He snaked us and we barely knew him. I don't think that they are mutually exclusive. I think he's a massive faggot but a bunch of stuff I've been sent I'm not gonna lie is hilarious.

I'm honestly really surprised my Twitter account didn't get jannied it was glowing as really hard but I think it's still up. I didn't read the posts I just spammed while watching TV or in spare time.

Dude you really need to work in writing like a normal person. It's actually painful to read. It's a time warp to being edgy on /pol/. Jesus Christ.

Sorry, I edited this post a lot because this dudes writing style is so extra. Calm down.

You are right though that I'm glowing. It is probably against the rules.

Overall I'm happy that I pissed off a massive faggot like you and you've spent all this time archiving tweets that took 5 seconds for me to send.

It's been really fun trying to figure out what in the fuck is going on with this whole thing, speedrunning the history of Comics Gate and why it's in all these factions and then writing a bunch of stuff to piss off this one dude in California.

You should take the schizo-pill, you'd be happier for sure.

Oh while you're here can you explain why everyone in CG jerks off to Kamen Rider? Cheers.

Oh and by the way I still don't know or care about the following:

- CG vs Anti-CG
- Testefy
- Warcampaign
- All the lore where everyone in comics gate were friends at one point then snaked.
- Weeb Wars

Etc etc etc

I wish you people would stop trying to infodump me all this shit. I really just want to mog Dean and Vikki because they fucked with me!

Comics Gate and Weeb Wars is literally a mental illness. Reminder: You're here forever. I'm gone when Dean troons and Vikki is comitted.

How is it that you people usually settle the pettiest of altercations? Doxxing and lawsuits?

Nigger I hope ALL comics have characters that are black trannies where they get power ups by drinking pozzed loads. None of this shit matters, what does matter and is funny is trolling the shit out of this one guy with a receding hairline.

You and your gaggle of GIGAFAGGOTS need to get some perspective.

This is kino.

Holmes, tell me who YOUR favourite 500 views a video ethics in marvel creator is?

Final edit: wait is this whole effortpost documenting my spamming because you got mad for that one post?! This is hilarious!

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I'm just trying to be the first person on page 1800.

Edit: Nope, didn't work.

Still can't finish a page.

 

[A nameless trool]

More retardation by Yas Queen Zack

He takes the case of Vladimir Putins denazification of Ukraine and makes it all about Tom King calling him a nazi and "Putin will be hard pressed to back down because you say nazi you are trapped"...

Other choice quotes: he refused to add a pinup to pandemic, because the moment someone's granma died they would have to pull it down.
YB, that was a hint that maybe you should also have not done the comicbook too...

 

[Strix454]

There was a video this morning by the now "beyond good and evil no longer a slave" Liam Grey. He spent about an hour bitching about people and defending his strike on the JDA campaign. He also promised more strikes and lawsuits to his enemies.

Liam Grey misrepresented an old comics-related trademark controversy from 1983. Ironically the year he was born. Dave Sim published three consecutive issues of Cerebrus with a wolverine parody on the cover and with nearly all of the story on the inside of the book also being about the wolverine parody character (I believe the main character - Cerebus was "asleep" in these issues). After the third consecutive issue, Dave Sim received a cease-and-desist letter from Marvel. A key paragraph of the letter said:

"Although it may be permissible under certain circumstances, and with adequate safeguards to avoid possible confusion, for one publisher to make a one-time parody of a cartoon character belonging to another, any such limited right does not include the publication of a continuing series such as published by your company (“Cerebus” issues 54, 55 and 56)"

This situation doesn't really apply to Liam's dispute with JDA at all. JDA has done a one-time parody alternate cover for a comic. Further, Liam's past and present claims that Liam Grey is a trademarked comics character are just weird. The issue from 1983 with Cerebus was doing a multi-issue "parody" with the parody character being featured exclusively on the cover and being the main story character inside the book. None of that is true of JDA's parody. Liam keeps legally confusing the issue of using a real human being in a parody versus using trademarked fictional characters. He doesn't seem to know the difference.

Liam however claims that his legal opinions are correct because they come from an $590 a hour lawyer.

Liam also made the following claims:
- That JDA had "doxed" Liam Grey and Clint Stoker in the past. Given that Clint Stoker was operating in the open under his own name, I don't know how he could have been doxed. I don't remember Liam Grey ever being doxed by anyone.
- That his "wife and kids are scared". This goes along (probably) with Liam's story that he fought a "comicsgate supporter" at his home on February 19th.
- He said that all of the various emails sent to JDA and FROG from people claiming to be associates of Liam are not real.
- He claimed to have been harassed by a large number of telephone calls while he was seeking medical care yesterday.
- He promised us that he was going to start fighting back with the same tactics his enemies have used against him.

 

[A nameless trool]

Liam keeps legally confusing the issue of using a real human being in a parody versus using trademarked fictional characters. He doesn't seem to know the difference.

It is Liam we are talking about, the boundry between real human being and fictional character is fuzzy at best

 

[SargonF00t]

There was a video this morning by the now "beyond good and evil no longer a slave" Liam Grey. He spent about an hour bitching about people and defending his strike on the JDA campaign. He also promised more strikes and lawsuits to his enemies.

Liam Grey misrepresented an old comics-related trademark controversy from 1983. Ironically the year he was born. Dave Sim published three consecutive issues of Cerebrus with a wolverine parody on the cover and with nearly all of the story on the inside of the book also being about the wolverine parody character (I believe the main character - Cerebus was "asleep" in these issues). After the third consecutive issue, Dave Sim received a cease-and-desist letter from Marvel. A key paragraph of the letter said:

"Although it may be permissible under certain circumstances, and with adequate safeguards to avoid possible confusion, for one publisher to make a one-time parody of a cartoon character belonging to another, any such limited right does not include the publication of a continuing series such as published by your company (“Cerebus” issues 54, 55 and 56)"

This situation doesn't really apply to Liam's dispute with JDA at all. JDA has done a one-time parody alternate cover for a comic. Further, Liam's past and present claims that Liam Grey is a trademarked comics character are just weird. The issue from 1983 with Cerebus was doing a multi-issue "parody" with the parody character being featured exclusively on the cover and being the main story character inside the book. None of that is true of JDA's parody. Liam keeps legally confusing the issue of using a real human being in a parody versus using trademarked fictional characters. He doesn't seem to know the difference.

Liam however claims that his legal opinions are correct because they come from an $590 a hour lawyer.

Liam also made the following claims:
- That JDA had "doxed" Liam Grey and Clint Stoker in the past. Given that Clint Stoker was operating in the open under his own name, I don't know how he could have been doxed. I don't remember Liam Grey ever being doxed by anyone.
- That his "wife and kids are scared". This goes along (probably) with Liam's story that he fought a "comicsgate supporter" at his home on February 19th.
- He said that all of the various emails sent to JDA and FROG from people claiming to be associates of Liam are not real.
- He claimed to have been harassed by a large number of telephone calls while he was seeking medical care yesterday.
- He promised us that he was going to start fighting back with the same tactics his enemies have used against him.

Ever since Vikki Verse took her love away from Liam and directed it towards JDA, Liam has been on a downward trajectory.

 

[TheAlchemist]

Hello, this is Martina.

You know, I was just thinking about Martina the other day. I think she believes Vikki has lied about her too. And, as you pointed out, it's funny Martina actually won her case using the same argument FROG used. The one Dean should have but didn't.

Yes, vikki has lied about me a lot. I have no idea why she decided to twist my narrative when I was dealing with a lolsuit against an abuser who was spiteful I fired him & wanted to sabotage my book. I thought she wants us to deliver? It seems she wanted the book to fail so she can continue to rant about failed projects & late books, while she facilitated it.

Martina's opinion on all this might be fun to hear.

What I'd like to hear is her own personal experience in a vacuum.

What in particular would you like to hear?

About the lawsuit? There are some similarities because 1. Vexatious litigation 2. I was never served, he served my mother, not me. 3. He filed for default repeatedly to get that quick default despite my lawyers contacting his council letting them know I have retained council & would like time to respond. I had to fight default, improper service, waive service, then fight jurisdiction. It costed a lot of money & heart ache. 4. General shady tactics 5. Complete lies in the filing 6. Insane claims (like reputational damage when they have no reputation; claims of stealing an IGG when that is literally impossible to do; claims of owning my literal name & image) 7. Financial- asking for a crazy amount of money when they COSTED me money & didn’t produce.

I don’t want to clutter this thread with my lolsuit details, but it would be nice to finally hear my side.

In particular about vikki, I can certainly relate & share my experience dealing with this & how vikki is an idiot. And I can also show like how @im not a robot (how do I tag him?) pointed out, the hypocrisy. Last year she was lying as usual, but very glee about my situation yet she’s made every wrong step possible while she mocked every step I made (including when my case was dismissed, she was the spokesperson for my plaintiffs tweeting out that it was only dismissed on jurisdiction & that they will refile. Acting as if my win is still a fail, which is funny considering she is trying to act like her loss is still a win).

My Go Fund Me most certainly paid for my legal defense, despite what she claims. In fact, I owe my legal defense more money but that is my arrangement with them. 100% of the funds I raised was used for my legal defense as this case was very important to me considering I was fighting for my own name & image. I would rather go into debt owing lawyers than let my abuser win my name & image via default. Very interesting that she is guilty of the things she accused me of.

My lawyers filing late is not my fault, I was up their ass the entire time & they assured me it’s fine. In the end, it was fine. Idk why vikki was keeping such a close track of my filings, she should be that autistic with her own case…I did everything I could to take care of this head on while she tried to sabotage my efforts & become the spokesperson for my plaintiffs. (I didn’t yell at her for asking questions as she claims, I yelled at her for being the spokesperson for my plaintiffs and repeating their lies ad nauseam.)

Sorry for the long post. I’ll answer any questions for a brief time & then leave.

Edited: because im terrible with typos & nervous about my first post

Another edit: her video on me about my lawsuit didn’t age well. She tried really hard to make me appear to be the lolcow by putting music to it like a Chris Chan documentary but my rule of thumb with these types of videos is that if you have to try that hard to convince people someone is a lolcow, you’re the lolcow. Turns out every claim she made was false, I handled my lawsuit, & now she’s the one looking like a fool with bad actions, defaults, scam go fund me’s.

 

[Captain Manning]

Hello, this is Martina.

Hi Martina! @5t3n0g0ph3r might ask you to verify yourself. That's just procedure just to make sure you're not a fake Martina. It might just be as simple as saying "Hi Sten" on your Lady Alchemy twitter. You may get a sexy blue checkmark like FROG.

What in particular would you like to hear?

Nothing in particular at the moment. I just felt your unfiltered thoughts on this mess would be interesting to hear. I'm not really looking to interrogate you. @I'm not a Robot brought up a good point about the dichotomy on how your case progressed, and how Dean and Vikki's has, despite the fact both of them made a whole big deal about yours in videos.

There's some interesting similarities and differences. Such as the fact you had your case dismissed on jurisdictional grounds (something Dean should have done, and @FROG did), and that you apparently did have a GFM that was used to pay your lawyers, whereas Dean had a GFM (run by a third-party) and still doesn't have a lawyer.

It's kinda made me want to take a fresh look at your prior legal situation instead of just believing what D&V said on their show.

I suppose I do have one question though, but it's a bit of a joke question:

You once opined that Vikki might not know how to do long division. Given her deplorable performance in this case, is it possible she doesn't know what SUBTRACTION is either?

Last year she was lying as usual, but very glee about my situation yet she’s made every wrong step possible while she mocked every step I made (including when my case was dismissed, she was the spokesperson for my plaintiffs tweeting out that it was only dismissed on jurisdiction & that they will refile.

Well, at least you're in good company. She's been doing the same thing towards @FROG on Twitter.

"P...p..preston is gonna re-file against you!"

Question for the Vikki-simps: If she does that, is she a Preston-simp?

"But Manning... it's Queen Victoria!!! FROG MAN BAD!"

Yeah, get the fuck out of my face with that shit. This is just more gay Vikki vs. Ethan crap, and it's exhausting. How can Preston's case against Dean and Vikki be bad, but the one against Ethan be good? Preston is raising very similar arguments against all three defendants. They're gonna celebrate Preston threatening to re-file against Ethan while he's STILL in a lawsuit with her and her boyfriend?

Clown world. Complete clown world. Dean and Vikki are cows now.

Response to @The Holmes (because of reply bug).

@Captain Manning I apologize for the earlier spat in the CG thread and lumping you in with these retards.

Don't even give it a second thought, man. That whole Spectre mess was so autistic that I don't think it's realistic for me to expect everybody to fully understand it. Some people probably still only have a fragmented understanding of it. I actually feel bad people have to shift through it.

If you're interested, I wrote a timeline about the whole mess in the Spectre thread last night.

Only thing I ask is you understand I didn't do a gay op. I don't do gay ops. And I'm tired of talking about it. If the moderators say I didn't do a gay op, and they acknowledge Dean did... AND Spectre concedes the thread is accurate (hence he hasn't logged in since October 9th)... I think that REALLY should kill that line of inquiry. Wouldn't you agree?

Also, I want to make clear, I DO NOT approve what the "retards" you are talking about may or may not be doing. I not part of anything in those images you posted.

That said, I do think they have a legitimate reason to be pissed at Dean though. A lot of people are now. He made a mistake of poking the hornet's nest in the (far larger) Gunt subforum. I guess some just express it differently. My way of expressing it is to be honest and transparent out in the open here.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

I can confirm it's the real Martina if that helps. She literally just dmed me this link from her verified twitter account.

 

[TheAlchemist]

I can confirm it's the real Martina if that helps. She literally just dmed me this link from her verified twitter account.

Thanks mark

I also tweeted on my lady alchemy profile

https://twitter.com/ladyalchemy33/status/1499515660514246659?s=21