General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Nolan Crush]

If people want to believe Korone and Okayu are boinking and take everything they all say at face value then that's totally fine by me. If every flirt is also to be taken as a sincere display of sexual interest then the whole company is a 'Cover' for an underground whorehouse.

I'm not really sure those delusions are compatible with a lot of the discussions present here, though. Korone being married is the oldest of old pieces of Hololive roommate info. If it hasn't been archived here at any point before it's probably because there was a time everyone here just acknowledged it as a fact of life and didn't contest it.

But sure, here's the Iketog source. Scroll down enough to see that even her voice isn't 'real' and changes considerably when she becomes a V-Tuber on Upd8. It's wildly impressive to uphold a fake voice for long stretches of time without breaking like she does, but people still want to say they're not good at playing a character.

This feels like you're responding to stuff no one said.
No one said flirting proves sexual interest, I posted a clip of them saying they've had sex. The response also implies I think this is constant but my post doesn't say that, just that it has occurred.
As for "people still want to say they're not good at playing a character", no one ever said that either, just that the girls in HoloLive are mostly being themselves. These two statements are not mutually exclusive.

I will say however, thanks for the link.

 

[Cubanodun]

It's wildly impressive to uphold a fake voice for long stretches of time without breaking like she does

Hags are just built different my dude, reject the menheras, embrace the experience

 

[Autisticus]

Well I can say they have basically confirmed having sex together. That really doesn't say anything other than not being straight. Doesn't mean they're dating.

"these people are actors" they're mostly being themselves, exaggerated in some parts sure but I think it's clear it's mostly real.
As for earlier with "I wouldn't be surprised if people in Hololive are actually not straight", no real reason to be wondering considering how open some of the girls are about it. Especially Kiara.

I don't know anything about the husband thing, would like a reference.

Okayu literally had to walk this stream back and state she hadn't actually done anything with Korone because creepy faggots got too into it.

This is why yuribait sucks, people are too fucking retarded to not buy into it.

 

[Diya]

This post is to shill the cutest Vtuber mama and hentai manga artist.

Today is her third anniversary as a Vtuber, but she can't stream because of her main job work load ( she'll release the next volume of her manga this month) and on going health issues. Please support her work by reading her porn from legitimate source!

It's a shame publishing companies like to work their authors to death. I don't know how she does it between that and her chronic illness.

To be fair on the publisher, I think the work load is on her. It seems that her editor/people above is legit her fan and also is the one who persuade her to make a relatively clean manga in the first place, and she respect that person a lot. She just work too hard with her manga, illustration, and side job like recently she do art for Kson's new outro and the new character in that mobile Mahjong game. She also mentioned that there are many days where she simply doesn't have strength to get up from bed, so any good day she have need to be spent on the manuscript. Also, the publisher was pretty chill about deadline extension, which happen before.

 

[Rratcatcher]

Okayu literally had to walk this stream back and state she hadn't actually done anything with Korone because creepy faggots got too into it.

This is why yuribait sucks, people are too fucking retarded to not buy into it.

It makes me sad that the fanbase are going to end up killing BaeRyS like they killed PekoMiko, TakaMori (even if it was awkward and forced), and even OkaKoro seems to have cut back since that stream. BaeRyS is probably my favorite dynamic in EN right now and the two have seem to genuinely hit it off as friends. But I am sure the fans will make it weird and run it into the ground soon enough.

Edit:

This post is to shill the cutest Vtuber mama and hentai manga artist.

Today is her third anniversary as a Vtuber, but she can't stream because of her main job work load ( she'll release the next volume of her manga this month) and on going health issues. Please support her work by reading her porn from legitimate source!

It's a shame publishing companies like to work their authors to death. I don't know how she does it between that and her chronic illness.

 

[Rezza]

Please support her work by reading her porn from legitimate source!

Remember folks, don't pirate porns, lest you want to get cancelled like thay Niji guy

 

[Nolan Crush]

Okayu literally had to walk this stream back and state she hadn't actually done anything with Korone because creepy faggots got too into it.

This is why yuribait sucks, people are too fucking retarded to not buy into it.

Hmm, I didn't know that. Most people simply will see and think it's neat (even if untrue), but some people will always take things as more important than it actually is. Wish people could just watch stuff and have fun without getting so invested.

 

[Scuttle]

This feels like you're responding to stuff no one said.
No one said flirting proves sexual interest, I posted a clip of them saying they've had sex. The response also implies I think this is constant but my post doesn't say that, just that it has occurred.
As for "people still want to say they're not good at playing a character", no one ever said that either, just that the girls in HoloLive are mostly being themselves. These two statements are not mutually exclusive.

I will say however, thanks for the link.

I was being facetious about how much stock should be put into everything they say.

Also

B) They're barely actors, everything we've seen about their PLs/current alt accounts shows that they're basically themselves behind the avatar.

Was literally said on the last page.

I fully acknowledge that this was likely moreso in response to how 'real' they are and not their ability to assume a role, but saying that everything we know of the roommate is consistent with how they are on stream is, in fact, trying to marry (heh) two mutually exclusive statements.

It makes me sad that the fanbase are going to end up killing BaeRyS like they killed PekoMiko, TakaMori (even if it was awkward and forced), and even OkaKoro seems to have cut back since that stream.

NoeFure and then Flare's attempted rekindling of a ship with Polka were both also dumpstered by the fans.

 

[Nolan Crush]

I was being facetious about how much stock should be put into everything they say.

I see, then I guess it was simply a misunderstanding, glad everything was cleared about

 

[Sithis]

The thing with the yuribaiting is that a lot of it is psychological. And it's more than just baiting coomers. By keeping it to lesbianism-lite they are able to show their "flirty" side and act mischievous while still being pure idols who don't interact with filthy penis havers, which is what their parasocial simp audience is most concerned with. It's kinda genius on the part of the corp because they can keep simps orbiting while knowing their talents aren't actually boning one another.

There's a reason it's all kept to yuribaiting and the interactions between female and male streamers (like BaexRoberu) are so laughably cringe, like watching a middle school crush unfold - it's all to sell the illusion that these girls are all sexually available but are too cripplingly awkward in social settings to have likely been soiled by some penis haver. If they'd try a similar stint between a male and female streamer both streamers would probably see a very marked drop in numbers.

 

[Takodachi]

Today is a dog night.
Take your pick, cute dog with an adorable laugh

Adorable corgi and chill corgi

 

[Eddie IX]

Honestly was worried Fulgo was gonna be like Vox and they would try to out-whore each other for the fujobucks but was pleasantly surprised by how blunt he was about not wanting any of the parasocial crap from chat.

Do you (or anyone) happen to have a timestamp or clip for that?

On another note, i was ecpecting Fulgur to drop his character at some point, but the second stream was pretty fast. I really would like to know his thoughts on his debut.

He's pretty transparent about dropping character for sure. Between that and the above point, I might be interested in watching him after all.

[...] running along with Uki accidentally saying heterophobia instead of heterochromia, and so on.

Accidentally? I figured that was an intentional wink-and-nod to fujos (and that was well before the info that he's non-binary today).

 

[Golurk Learned Fly]

If people want to believe Korone and Okayu are boinking and take everything they all say at face value then that's totally fine by me. If every flirt is also to be taken as a sincere display of sexual interest then the whole company is a 'Cover' for an underground whorehouse.

I'm not really sure those delusions are compatible with a lot of the discussions present here, though. Korone being married is the oldest of old pieces of Hololive roommate info. If it hasn't been archived here at any point before it's probably because there was a time everyone here just acknowledged it as a fact of life and didn't contest it.

But sure, here's the Iketog source. Scroll down enough to see that even her voice isn't 'real' and changes considerably when she becomes a V-Tuber on Upd8. It's wildly impressive to uphold a fake voice for long stretches of time without breaking like she does, but people still want to say they're not good at playing a character.

That same link says she's divorced. Also, faking a voice =/= faking a personality. TakaMori tried it and couldn't handle it in the end.

If they'd try a similar stint between a male and female streamer both streamers would probably see a very marked drop in numbers.

Counterpoint: Nijisanji's GunKan and Ironmouse/Connor. People are eating that shit up.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Today is a dog night.
Take your pick, cute dog with an adorable laugh

Adorable corgi and chill corgi

I'm going with the Dual Blading dog Mint.

 

[Diya]

A bit of new info about Laila from SEAs monkey weebs.

Spoiler: From a poster in vtuber subreddit

some rough info is from Laila's fan and Thai community
might not entirely accurate or unbiased

- Laila have another account as artist. She never mention her other persona but probaly some fan remember her voice and start donate.

personally I dont call using voice+png image as vtubing as WACTOR claim, but thats debatable.

- It seem company ask her to live at least 6 days/week on Bilibili.

- She badmouth management in Thai language steam. (As im not her fan, i don't know if she say something more than forcing to live continuously)

Not a nice move considered there is 'rumored' about WACTOR only have CEO and talents. Everything else is outsourced.

So when you mention about management team, there is ONLY one person in management team, the one who posting this annoucement. Maid-chan aka CEO.

- Laila got temporary suspended a few days after that, no reason announce

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/r4g0wm/wactors_shino_laila_has_been_suspended/

- After a month , #freelaila start on twitter and discord

- I heard they either ask company to terminated contract if Laila really broke it or give some clear statement.

- Some other fan join in too because membership is still active but there is no new video or live. (they probaly keep it on because there is no suspended time specified, didn't expected to lose money for free after a month)

- Anyone asking about this get kick from discord (including Mod) by Maid-chan(CEO). This is pretty famous incident in Thai community so I heard of this too.

- I think company want to freeze her until contract end (probaly until May as she debut on May). Basically, "I won't give you job or money, but I won't allow you to get another job too."

- No other news until today, my guess is they pressure company enough so company have to give statement (and ranting at the same time).

- Another member temporary suspended

https://twitter.com/WACTOR_maidchan/status/1498961058077102083

I heard it because she dm to Laila, don't know if it true.

Bit and pieces that connect stuff together. The part about how WACTOR is only company in name and actually run by a single person (Maid-chan, who make that tweet and also mod the official subreddit discord, and also the CEO), put a new light on this story. It isn't an entire board decide to do a financial suicide, it's just one dumbass with a bit of money who power drunk and have a sperg moment.

 

[Burnt Fish]

Well I can say they have basically confirmed having sex together. That really doesn't say anything other than not being straight.

Next tell me the story about how Rushia confirmed she's your girlfriend.

Christ almighty Nolan are you this much of a mark?

 

[Kusogaki]

Counterpoint: Nijisanji's GunKan and Ironmouse/Connor. People are eating that shit up.

These are the exception and not the rule, their specific chemistry (at least in the latter from i know) regardless their gender its what gives them a lot of attention.

 

[Nolan Crush]

Next tell me the story about how Rushia confirmed she's your girlfriend.

Christ almighty Nolan are you this much of a mark?

Feel like there's a massive different between those two things.
One is something that's impossible and the other is believing a clip because of a lack of complete context. It's not a big deal. Especially because Holomems have talked about similar stuff in the past (groping). So I don't think I had a reason to believe they were lying.
Further context makes it clearer to me that the clip doesn't prove anything.

 

[masterstocking]

Next tell me the story about how Rushia confirmed she's your girlfriend.

Christ almighty Nolan are you this much of a mark?

Come on, you all know Nolan is too pure and innocent for this world. What he's doing here on this site, I'll never know (other than rotting his soul away, of course...the rest of us don't even have souls).

Regarding the yuribaiting, I think it helps to remember that they are all actors, first and foremost. For most of them, it's not even their first acting job. Yuribaiting has absolutely been proven to get the attention of guys, because guys think lesbians are hot in general. You know, the cute ones, anyways. 'I only support gay marriage if both chicks are hot' and all that. Fans love these sort of pairings, and even Gura and Ame had to steer away from that shit before it went out of control. Because crazy-ass fans ruin everything.

Out of all of them, I think we can safely say Kiara and Ollie are genuinely thirsty as fuck, and if anyone had my pick for being a probable still-virgin, it would most likely be

Spoiler: you know who

Yagoo

Edit:
There's a HoloEN Pixiv artbook, available for free-> download here <- until 3/31 (90-page pdf: may require Pixiv account sign-up? I already had one). Here's the cover:

 

[Golurk Learned Fly]

These are the exception and not the rule, their specific chemistry (at least in the latter from i know) its what gives them a lot of attention.

And what, the girls don't have chemistry? Hell, there's a bunch of attempts at yuribaiting that didn't catch on in the end because of the lack of chemistry, like Gura "marrying" Shion, Marine and Rushia's "cheating couple" skits, Botan/Lamy that fell into obscurity, and of course TakaMori where the talents just burned themselves out maintaining the kayfabe. Even BaeRyS is pretty obviously just a pair of fast friends with similar comedy tastes pushing a bit as far as they can take it. It's when it's something that's lasted for years, that shows no signs of slowing down and that observors from within their circles keep drawing attention to with absolutely zero pushback that you can start drawing conclusions.