Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Fcret]

Agreed. There were certainly more damaging things that happened in WW2, but in terms of single events, dropping nukes is hard to top.
Again, the comparison to Halabja comes to mind, which is justly regarded to be an outstanding war crime.


Fair enough, I suppose that is "military value". What I meant that they didn't pick them as targets of particular tactical or strategic importance.
Nagasaki, for instance, wasn't even on the initial list of targets, but added later. And they didn't even drop the bomb on the high value target, the shipyards, but squarely on the city itself.

They didn't drop them specifically on the shipyards because they couldn't. Bomber accuracy was horrible in WW2. Even the US, which probably had the most accurate bombers in the world by the end of war, was only able to get around 15% of their bombs to fall within 1000 feet of their intended target. Most bombs went wildly off course. That's why most of the belligerents engaged in carpet-bombing rather than trying to hit specific objectives.

 

[Male Idiot]

Hungary news! You are all hungary for it.

Approval of Orbán's stance on being nice with Putin 75%.
Approval of not sending arms or troops to aid Ukraine: 90%.
Blame equally distributed between Ukraine, Russia and USA.

The biggest issue will be if his soft stance on ukrainefugees will alienate his voters or not. Still his numbers are up, and they were already barely ahead before.

Paks 2 will be made on schedule with Rosatom.

 

[дядя Боря]

In the minds of retards without the first understanding of wars maybe.

No one who actually knows about these things, Russian authorities included, though that running through a country the size of Western Europe in 2 days was going to be a thing. That's just Ukrainian propaganda nonsense about how them surviving a week is a massive victory and we should stop the count.

They weren't planning to run through it in two days.

The plan was precision missile strikes, para quickly taking administrative buildings and Yanuk flying in. In theory less than 24h to do that, the rest of the country follows and falls.

 

[Coccxys]

Hungary news! You are all hungary for it.

Approval of Orbán's stance on being nice with Putin 75%.
Approval of not sending arms or troops to aid Ukraine: 90%.
Blame equally distributed between Ukraine, Russia and USA.

The biggest issue will be if his soft stance on ukrainefugees will alienate his voters or not. Still his numbers are up, and they were already barely ahead before.

Paks 2 will be made on schedule with Rosatom.

The biggest surprise to me from Hungary was seeing them throw its voice behind calls to immediately admit Ukraine to the EU under unspecified emergency powers. I expected Hungary to be the one stood there cock blocking their membership.

 

[BradCarter]

Projekt red is suspending game sales in Russia. Maybe they'll be less bloodthirsty now that there no risk of being exposed to cyberpunk 2020

 

[THEY STOLE MY FORESKIN]

Incredible that the Babyn Yar bombing was a hoax. Actually incredible.

I'm speechless.

 

[33l]

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[Sammich]

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FAT TUCKER GOT WHAT HE DESERVED..

 

[Kane Lives]

The biggest surprise to me was seeing Hungary throw its voice behind calls to immediately admit Ukraine to the EU under unspecified emergency powers. I expected Hungary to be the one stood there cock blocking their membership.

Wasn't it just candidate country status? It's basically just cheap virtue signalling that does nothing to help the hohols.

 

[Hackallier]

They weren't planning to run through it in two days.

The plan was precision missile strikes, para quickly taking administrative buildings and Yanuk flying in. In theory less than 24h to do that, the rest of the country follows and falls.

And you got the secret Russian plans directly from Kremlin I presume?

 

[The Ugly One]

Reminder that this has become a global concern, not because Russia poses an existential threat the freedom and safety of the world, but because Ukraine hires the children of world leaders to no-show jobs. I suspect some variant of this has happened already in a variety of third-world countries:

The Minister of Foreign affairs walks in and takes off his sombrero. "El Presidente, our talks with the drug cartels are going well. They've agreed to launder their drug money through Wells Fargo, and America has agreed to let us send people we can't feed and criminals we can't control across the border. But there is another issue."

"Tell me, Jose."

"Well, America is asking us to participate in an embargo of Russia."

The President shakes a maraca in outrage. "An embargo? But Russia supplies us ammunition for our old Cold War-era small arms that we equip our police and absolute joke of an army with! Ay-yi-yi! What an inconvenience for us! Why do they demand this!"

The minister makes himself a taco salad, sprinkles some cocaine on it, and responds, "Russia has attacked Ukraine, el Presidente."

"Ukraine? But who cares? Ukraine and Russia combined do less trade with America than we do, and Ukraine is even poorer and more corrupt than us!"

"Ah, Senor Presidente, you do not understand. Ukraine has hired the hijos of Senor Biden, Senor Romney, Sra Pelosi, and others for mucho dinero. They demand that the whole world must cut off financial and trade relations with Russia until their children's income source is reacquired."

"Damn Yankee imperialistas! First they try to tell me to stop buying fine cigars and spyware-laden cell phones, and now this? Madre de puta! Puta de madre! Somebody bring me some tequila, this is a bad day for us!"

 

[BradCarter]

Moldova requesting EU membership

 

[Oxous]

Journo on the streets of Kiev is reporting that worries about food shortages in Kiev seem to be temporarily dissipated after a few days of queuing at stores.

Guy restocking the shelves at a store:

 

[дядя Боря]

And you got the secret Russian plans directly from Kremlin I presume?

No, I just watched the news from my own sources from day one.

 

[borsabil]

A nice line of POZ'd puppets. Those are your "betters" there, people, doing "god's" work indeed.

In the 80's Soros was a hate figure for the left. He was the guy who spent billions, and made billions more, driving the UK currency out of the European Monetary System, the precursor of the Euro. In fact if there's anyone that's ultimately responsible for Brexit it's Soros, which is ironic?

Billionaire on global currency speculation, George Soros, a short biography - The Herland Report

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It went well, and two years later he launched the Double Eagle hedge fund with $4 million of investors’ capital including $250,000 of his own money. It was based in Curaçao, Dutch Antilles, a Caribbean tax haven beyond U.S. regulation.
All of its investors were also beyond U.S. regulation: Soros only accepted very rich non-U.S. citizens, mostly European.

Soros made his bones laundering money through a tax haven. "Rich European investors" is a polite way of saying mafiosi.

This resulted in Soros’s 2005 conviction for insider trading by the Court of Appeals. The French Supreme Court confirmed the insider-trading conviction on June 14, 2006, but reduced the penalty. In December 2006, Soros appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, and the court agreed to hear the appeal on the basis that he had no insider information, but in October 2011 the court rejected his appeal in a 4–3 decision, saying that Soros had been aware of the risk of breaking insider trading laws.

He's a convicted fraudster, but being a rich Jew he (of course) was never sent to prison.

In August of 2016, the DCLeaks network posted more than 2,500 hacked documents from the servers of his Open Society Foundations. Predictably, the spotlight was on Soros’s global network, but the shocker was the undue influence Soros exerts over every level of America’s domestic government. The hacked documents reveal initiatives to federalize local police forces, campaigns to rig elections of state attorneys general in favor of Democrats, and racial-based initiatives intended to tilt the 2020 U.S. Census so redistricting would guarantee Democrat control of Congress for at least a decade.

He also tard wrangled the tech monopolies, Facebook, Apple, Amazon and Google, to spend billions to fortify the 2020 election. So now he's a hero to the left with any criticism shot down as muh antisemitism.

And of course he's given giant piles of money, as well as personnel and operational advice, to a whole plethora of NGOs in organising coups and revolts in a swathe of countries, including the Ukraine.

So why does a psychopathic Jew with a God complex, who made his fortune through the most extreme form of rapacious capitalism suddenly decide to go woke and start funding the leftist takeover of western institutions? Does anyone seriously think he actually believes in the ideology he espouses? Or might it be a burning and insatiable hatred for the western civilization and a desire to utterly destroy it? You decide.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Interesting points, but let me offer an insane counter scenario:

1. War is expensive
2. Western leaders have lost the support of the people
3. The entirety of NATO hasn't been investing in their military like they are required to do (except the US)
4. Putin has threatened to go nuclear

Just maybe the cost-benifit analyst here is telling the west to sit on it's ass and do nothing.

Well consider this.

-Raytheon and Lockheed and Northrop stock
-When has no support ever kept leaders from doing anything?
-When you’re in a Cold War state of mind, pretty much anything at the expense of Russia is fair game.

All it takes is enough hunger and bloodlust to let loose the hounds of war.

 

[BradCarter]

Well consider this.

-Raytheon and Lockheed and Northrop stock
-When has no support ever kept leaders from doing anything?
-When you’re in a Cold War state of mind, pretty much anything at the expense of Russia is fair game.

All it takes is enough hunger and bloodlust to let loose the hounds of war.

What? Read the message I was replying to. This has nothing to do with the conversation

 

[The Ugly One]

In the 80's Soros was a hate figure for the left. He was the guy who spent billions, and made billions more, driving the UK currency out of the European Monetary System, the precursor of the Euro. In fact if there's anyone that's ultimately responsible for Brexit it's Soros, which is ironic?

Billionaire on global currency speculation, George Soros, a short biography - The Herland Report

Herland Report: Multi-billionaire George Soros (born August 12, 1930) is one of the world’s l

hannenabintuherland.com

Soros made his bones laundering money through a tax haven. "Rich European investors" is a polite way of saying mafiosi.


He's a convicted fraudster, but being a rich Jew he (of course) was never sent to prison.




He also tard wrangled the tech monopolies, Facebook, Apple, Amazon and Google, to spend billions to fortify the 2020 election. So now he's a hero to the left with any criticism shot down as muh antisemitism.

And of course he's given giant piles of money, as well as personnel and operational advice, to a whole plethora of NGOs in organising coups and revolts in a swathe of countries, including the Ukraine.

So why does a psychopathic Jew with a God complex, who made his fortune through the most extreme form of rapacious capitalism suddenly decide to go woke and start funding the leftist takeover of western institutions? Does anyone seriously think he actually believes in the ideology he espouses? Or might it be a burning and insatiable hatred for the western civilization and a desire to utterly destroy it? You decide.

This is very interesting - I wonder if all his leftists horseshit is just a way to buy himself political security to do whatever he wants. The American political right doesn't believe in doing anything billionaires don't like on principle, and the American left is for sale to the highest bidder.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Moldova requesting EU membership

For Moldova this situation is like a gypsy walking past two guys fighting and seeing that in the scuffle both of their wallets have fallen out on the ground.

Do you really expect them to act differently?

 

[Coccxys]

Wasn't it just candidate country status? It's basically just cheap virtue signalling that does nothing to help the hohols.

That's what passed. A load of the Eastern European nations campaigned to give ukrain automatic membership right now even though there is no mechanism to.