Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Is there still a way out of this without WW3 or the complete economical downfall of this planet? I don't want anymore.

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Honestly I don't see Russia being able to sustain the majority of the world basically fucking their economy over, if only because a ton of Russian Oligarchs are watching their assets go up in smoke the longer this shitshow goes on, for literally no real gain other than Putin's ego. And Russia's economy was already pretty shit when the buildup was going on. And of course the sustained insurgency because no way are the Ukranian people still in the country going to bend over while Russia's in town.
 
I am Mikolaj Copeyuvich (🇺🇦) and I am here to confirm this. Putin will not divide us. He will not divide us! He will not divide us!
Russia taking half of Ukraine as 'Novorussia' or whatever is literally internet Putinbro fantasizing

There is zero indication from the Russian government that they want to do anything territorially past securing the borders of the LPR and DPR
 
Russia isn't attacking so much in the places Ukraine is strong and the terrain favors defenders (Kiev, Kharkov) other than shelling, it's attacking in the place Ukraine is weak and the terrain is more open and favorable to attackers (the south)

For all the true talk of Russian incompetence, the biggest mistake of this war was Ukraine not mobilizing reserves and starting a draft until Russia actually attacked. Ukraine had two months to get on a war footing and it didn't. If it had, it would have the manpower it needs now. It didn't, so it doesn't
More and more I'm starting to wonder if hunkering down in Kiev was a fatal blunder. If the plan was to bait the Ruskies into bloody urban warfare, it has obviously failed, as so far the Russians have been content to sit back with their beloved artillery and just play whack a mole with Ukranian defensive positions. I wonder if Zelensky was delusional enough to believe that real boots on the ground help was coming from the west? Forcing a siege makes sense if you have available reinforcements to swing around and flank the besiegers, but without that, you've essentially fucked yourself. Any kind of sortie would just be suicide, and being cut off from supplies means you no longer have any means of countering Russian armor once you've used up all your anti-tank munitions. Was the psychological boost of holding steadfast in Kiev worth the possibility of Zelensky being frog walked into a Russian APC while the rest of the country looks on?
 
Honestly I don't see Russia being able to sustain the majority of the world basically fucking their economy over, if only because a ton of Russian Oligarchs are watching their assets go up in smoke the longer this shitshow goes on, for literally no real gain other than Putin's ego. And Russia's economy was already pretty shit when the buildup was going on. And of course the sustained insurgency because no way are the Ukranian people still in the country going to bend over while Russia's in town.
I don't care if it's pro globo homo or not but one thing is sure: the Biden clan will the fuck the whole Western world over just for their little colony. Sleepy Joe is old he probably doesn't care about the Western bloc at all and only tries to defend the business of his family.

So the only way out of this is that the Monkee in the Kremlin backs down before he is in the same situation as Japan 1941.
 
If this is correct, Russia would be most unwise to carry out this plan.




So far as I know, very little in the way of Ukrainian attacks have been made upon Russian soil. An air base near the border with Ukraine was hit. Suggest at the rate things are going, we may well see Ukrainian attacks within Russia. Say, an explosion on the Moscow Metro at rush hour. Maybe a truck bomb on one of the Moscow ring freeways at rush hour. Maybe a suicide bomber in Red Square. Asymmetrical warfare. Would be very surprised if the Ukrainians were not planning such attacks, or worse.
 
More and more I'm starting to wonder if hunkering down in Kiev was a fatal blunder. If the plan was to bait the Ruskies into bloody urban warfare, it has obviously failed, as so far the Russians have been content to sit back with their beloved artillery and just play whack a mole with Ukranian defensive positions. I wonder if Zelensky was delusional enough to believe that real boots on the ground help was coming from the west? Forcing a siege makes sense if you have available reinforcements to swing around and flank the besiegers, but without that, you've essentially fucked yourself. Any kind of sortie would just be suicide, and being cut off from supplies means you no longer have any means of countering Russian armor once you've used up all your anti-tank munitions. Was the psychological boost of holding steadfast in Kiev worth the possibility of Zelensky being frog walked into a Russian APC while the rest of the country looks on?
Only a pertinent concern if Zelensky is still in the country. There's precious little evidence to suggest that he is.
 
The Ukies are blowig up the bridges into cities. A sure fire sign they're winning.
Not really as much of a sign of defeat as you think.

Small power level: a relative of mine was in Germany during the 70’s and 80’s in a US engineer corps battalion. The plan if war happened was to blow all the bridges into West Germany and then try to slow the Soviets down blocking roads with huge rocks using bulldozers - because that’s all this unit had. They would have been a speed bump and died within days, but that was their job. Buy time for American reinforcements from the states.

War is shit.
 
Honestly I don't see Russia being able to sustain the majority of the world basically fucking their economy over, if only because a ton of Russian Oligarchs are watching their assets go up in smoke the longer this shitshow goes on, for literally no real gain other than Putin's ego. And Russia's economy was already pretty shit when the buildup was going on. And of course the sustained insurgency because no way are the Ukranian people still in the country going to bend over while Russia's in town.
Personally, I think this is going to end up being a wake-up call to all nations which are even remotely at odds with globohomo and you're going to see a major push to disconnect their economies with the west. You've got faggots wanting sanctions on India for simply abstaining from their stupid little condemnation vote.
 
Is there still a way out of this without WW3 or the complete economical downfall of this planet? I don't want anymore.

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Yes. Russia buttfucks the Ukraine into submission, and then plants a puppet government and seizes the natural gas reserves and clear path to the black sea.

Rest of the world screeches for a while, then quietly starts removing sanctions once the next scariant of covid starts getting whipped up.

Russian financial offset of short term pain for long term gain given the enormous value of natural gas reserves captured. No motivation to invade nearby nations for a while.

So long as NATO doesn't go full retard and stick their cocks directly in the ant hill, it will be a really painful outcome for Ukraine for the medium term future, a slightly painful future for Russia for the short term future, and the level of bullshit elsewhere in the world will be unaffected by these events.
 
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