Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Ukraine Plans To Issue More War Bonds As Redditors Line Up To Buy​

Ukraine Sells $277 Million In War Bonds, To Pay Interest For Other Creditors | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Amid the fog of war, Ukraine raised 8.1 billion hryvnia ($277 million) in a sale of war bonds on Tuesday yielding 11%, in the country's latest fundraising effort to tap into the global support for the country in its fight against Russia’s invasion.


As Bloomberg reports, the sale "encountered difficulties" that made it complicated for investors to buy, including a Ukraine finance ministry website which had cut off access from abroad to avoid cyber attacks. Furthermore, concerns over the settlement process for the bonds and the lack of information meant that some international bond funds remained on the sidelines.

On social media before Tuesday’s bond auction, users were asking the Twitter account of Ukraine’s finance ministry how to buy the bonds. Others pointed to alternative avenues for donations, such as the special central bank account.

Ahead of the emergency bond sale, Ukraine had been pursuing various crowdfunding initiatives, including collecting donations via bitcoin. Its central bank set up a special account last week where people around the world can donate, and the government shared details of crypto addresses to raise funds in Bitcoin and other digital tokens. By Tuesday morning, those accounts had received more than $17 million, according to blockchain analytics firm Elliptic. Including NGOs providing support to the military, total donations amount to $24.6 million, it said.

However, those hoping that the new funds will reach Ukraine's suffering people, or even its military, will be disappointed: the only "winners" from today's bond auction are other, existing creditors: shortly after the bond sale was completed, the country's debt chief Yuriy Butsa told Bloomberg TV that Ukraine has paid about $300 million of bond interest to international investors due today, in effect recycling the entire new bond issue to avoid default. The bonds, which carry a 7.75% coupon, were issued in 2015 as part of Ukraine’s $15 billion debt restructuring, not to be confused with the debt restructuring that will have to follow in a few months when the country has no choice but to default on external creditors.

Finally, I can launder money and be called a hero!
Slavic Ukrainia or whatever, wheres the money

 

[mr.moon1488]

Not sure if posted, but it absolutely was gypsies that stole that BMP.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

Guys with the Russian Vodka boycott/ban whatever, is it worth buying some Russian Vodka and storing it and then selling it at sometime in the future? Assuming the ban never gets lifted, is it worth buying some incase it's value goes up in the future because of this conflict? I'll sleep on it but I am just wondering if this is worth doing since I don't plan on drinking it (partially due to a health condition but also cuz I am not a fan of strong alcohol anyway).

No, you would be better off buying a brick of copper or other raw materials. Commodity futures are going parabolic at the moment.

 

[Richardface]

Cracked solid rocket propellant burns many times faster than it's intended to...meaning they sent a bunch of pallets of potential pipe bombs to "help". Germany and the Russians teaming up to squeeze a central European country between themselves again, huh?

 

[Uncle Buck]

Apparently it's the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Seems like a logical location to take

I really really hope the Ukes don't try to make a stand here or otherwise sabotage the reactors.

 

[Corpun]

Ah yes, volunteers get pensions.

I'm actually expecting some of these retards who do go to sue Ukraine afterwards thinking atey are obliged to get payment for their service.

 

[Butter Keks]

Here you go, cooters.

2022-03-03 - Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov holds press conference in Moscow (Odysee)

Whether you like Russia or not, Lavrov is excellent at his job and runs circles around the clowns and rejects that most of the Western nations have installed in "cushy" diplomatic positions.

 

[DumbDude42]

Guys with the Russian Vodka boycott/ban whatever, is it worth buying some Russian Vodka and storing it and then selling it at sometime in the future? Assuming the ban never gets lifted, is it worth buying some incase it's value goes up in the future because of this conflict? I'll sleep on it but I am just wondering if this is worth doing since I don't plan on drinking it (partially due to a health condition but also cuz I am not a fan of strong alcohol anyway).

no.
it works with cuban cigars and scottish whiskey because those (allegedly) taste 100 times better than any other.
but with vodka this is not the case, it's just grain alcohol. finnish, polish, swedish, russian, ukrainian, no difference.

 

[Generic Retard]

Cracked solid rocket propellant burns many times faster than it's intended to...meaning they sent a bunch of pallets of potential pipe bombs to "help". Germany and the Russians teaming up to squeeze a central European country between themselves again, huh?

In the first article linked, they said "micro cracking" and that it would increase oxidation (presumably because more propellant is in contact with air), but let's be honest, if there is micro cracking, some will be worse and some better...
Presumably the "micro cracking" was found in 2012 too (when they banned the use). What harm could another decade do, right guys?

 

[burntwater]

No, you would be better off buying a brick of copper or other raw materials. Commodity futures are going parabolic at the moment.

Wheat prices are going insane. As of 5 hours ago.

 

[Reddit Gold]

I'm in this awkward situation of not wanting to side with Putin for his blatant aggression of Ukraine, but I'm not too terribly inclined with siding with or attaining a passport in the West as these countries have all but killed my dreams and ensured that my country will return to 1990s economic woes in short order. Yeah, the existential questions raised here are very somber.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

"We can survive a nuclear exchange - I've worked it all out in HOI4!"

this guy clearly didn't play DEFCON

 

[NJBear]

Russia gets to have Bears as housepets.

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Hmm, that gives me a brilliant idea!

 

[DumbDude42]

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this is a meme, but unironically true. germany is more likely to send its army into poland as part of some EU mission to punish polands "authoritarian tendencies" than to use it against russia.

 

[Richardface]

"We'll ban them from using Iphones and participating in cat competitions but make all their major exports 5x more valuable than they previously were!"

 

[Jump]

Guys with the Russian Vodka boycott/ban whatever, is it worth buying some Russian Vodka and storing it and then selling it at sometime in the future? Assuming the ban never gets lifted, is it worth buying some incase it's value goes up in the future because of this conflict? I'll sleep on it but I am just wondering if this is worth doing since I don't plan on drinking it (partially due to a health condition but also cuz I am not a fan of strong alcohol anyway).

I don't know where you are but in the USA real Russian vodka is already rare. Most of it just branding. Like "Italian food" that isn't actually from Italy.
Will real Russian vodka actually become like Cuban cigars? Who knows. But human nature is that people want things they can't get.

 

[LUNEKO]

This guy is kinda far out, but gives an informative insight on how the EU and a bunch of other places kinda fucked themselves over on food with all of these sanctions.
As it turns out, this war will affect about 1/3rd of grain supplies worldwide and prices are already at an all-time high. Hope you dont like bakery goods lol.
And remember: "A small sacrifice we are willing to make."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctso1KVzL7o

Aah Europe and grain shortages, name a more iconic duo

 

[make_it_so]

I saw some articles the other day about PMC companies setting up in Ukraine to fight, with numbers around 7,000.

Is this true? And who is paying them? I assume it is the government but that just says they're even more desperate than just arming civvies and convicts to shoot eachother. I guess oligarchs might be buying them up in preparation for whatever happens next.

I wouldn't be surprised if the funding is coming from buildings in Langley and along the Thames River.

 

[b0x]

Interesting thread from Michael Shellenberger on how Europe became dependent on Russian energy.

https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1499386637066727424

Archive of the Wall Street Journal Article he mentions: https://archive.ph/Gspq0

lol "It's the Russians funding the Climate change people, the West is just a pawn in their nefarious games!"



A crowdfunding appeal by Extinction Rebellion is expected to hit £1m after £800,000 was raised in the first week.

The cash is to support its direct action in London with the group saying the cash will be used to fund living expenses of the rebels as they attempt to shut down major infrastructure.

Organisers say that the monthly living expenses amount to £400 for full-time rebels and £200 for part-time ones.

However it is thought the group will not apply for charity status or official funding.

Extinction Rebellion on road to becoming millionaires - TFN

Crowdfunder has raised huge amount within a week

tfn.scot

Who funds Extinction Rebellion? American & UK millionaires – ‘Some of America’s most famous families, including the Kennedys & the Gettys’​

A 2019 New York Times story from reported:

“Climate change protesters from Extinction Rebellion snarled traffic in Washington on Monday and again on Friday. You might find yourself asking, ‘Who helps pays for this activism?’ The answer, in part, is the scions of some of America’s most famous families, including the Kennedys and the Gettys.”

That would be referring to Rory Kennedy (daughter of former U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy) and Aileen Getty (a granddaughter of former U.S. oil businessman Jean Paul Getty), who started the Climate Emergency Fund which has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to Extinction Rebellion. Getty’s foundation even touts its support for Extinction Rebellion.

Who funds Extinction Rebellion? American & UK millionaires – ‘Some of America’s most famous families, including the Kennedys & the Gettys’

“From the outside, Extinction Rebellion looks like a freewheeling movement fond of elaborate costumes and outlandish stunts. There is actually a deeply thought-out method beneath its madness, even …

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[Fcret]

Wheat prices are going insane. As of 5 hours ago.
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Ah yes, I can almost hear the American and Brazilian farmers orgasming at the sight of this chart...