Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Potatoherder]

At least 3 civilians were killed due to Russian shelling in Saltovka, Kharkiv oblast
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It's crazy to me how low these numbers are. I remember in Iraq where daily suicide attacks killed 100+ and it was only worthy of the news ticker at the bottom of the screen.

 

[Coccxys]

How is that diffrent from russians then?

All things available easily will be pro putin anyway.

Unless you have vpn

It's going that way in the west let alone Russia. I have had to VPN around a few blocks with "website blocked by high court order xxx." In recent years and the number only seems to be increasing.

Plus the "soft blocks" that exist, a few news sites are now being blocked by my browser as a "potentially harmful website", which takes a few clicks to get around assuming it doesn't scare off the normies in the first place.

 

[The Ugly One]

Every politician, every journoscum and every "influencer" who is riling up impressionable dipshits for war deserves to be put into a wood chipper feet first. Those who are doing this and have absolutely no risk of being involved in the fighting (the elderly, the ultra wealthy and connected, etc.) should be fed through at half speed. I mean that all of this should only take place in Minecraft haha... unless?

At this point, anybody who still glues their eyes to the brainwashing machine kinda deserves the brainwashing. It's incredible how stupid TV news makes people. Don't think, here's a recording of a crying child! Stop your brain, look at this rubble!

 

[Duke Nukem]

Reddit loves them.

That's kinda cute, they got their own little circle jerk now?

Obligatory:

Kane has had a great influence on my world view. And this is why.

He truly was a man ahead of his time. And it is sad that a defunct video game franchise from the 90s has a better grip on world events and propaganda methods than literally anything else.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

You're generally going to be judged harshly if you go around repeatedly stabbing people because others threaten to defend themselves if you stab them

Putin warned NATO and the US way back in 2014 that he would act if anyone tried to weaponise Ukraine or Georgia. Russia is acting in self-defence.

Are old people anywhere capable of using smartphones?

No. My mother can't even figure out how to do a screenshot; she gets her digital camera out and takes a photograph of the screen.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Rather then shilling for one side or the other, the Western Internet bubble should rather discuss how we can damage control this situation now.

The situation that Western governments want to use this as an excuse to increase the rate of the price increase of gas?

 

[stakenifes]

How is that diffrent from russians then?

All things available easily will be pro putin anyway.

Unless you have vpn

lol, go research the differences between the three and you'll be able to answer your own question?

You clearly have nfi what you're talking about but I'll give you 3 answers and I'll let you guess which is which.

1. Restricts pretty much everything from general use.
2. Only allows things approved by the regime.
3. Restricts anything it finds against the regime.

If you can correctly identify all 3 (and I'm betting you can) , congrats you might not be a lost cause.

If not, you're retarded and I'll stop replying coz it's shitting up the thread.

 

[b0x]

Wasting a generation and its wealth fighting Ukrainian nazis was retarded. For all the yammering about NATO aggression, no NATO soldier has violated Russian sovereignty.

Russia already made things clear almost ten years ago when they exclaimed they would not accept NATO advancement into their sphere of influence, it was stated many times, they held multitudes of talks with NATO and the west. The even invaded Georgia and Crimea, no one gave a shit. And then all of a sudden, when the pipelines to Western European nations are threatened. Now it's a big issue, now Putin is Hitler. He is a madman, who could've known? Obviously the people in power have little interest in political history. They didn't give a flying fuck before, it's just that Russia now made a power play in their minds. When everything up to this point can be predicted. Other political and historical analysts predicted it.

The wests leaders are just incompetent buffoons. Who can't do more than organise a reddit brigade.

 

[The Ugly One]

I normally let this stuff slide, and ignore you brain dead faggots, but not this time.

How fucking retarded are you? Seriously, helmet, and harness? I bet you have scars on your stupid mouth from silverware training. You are justifying people losing their jobs, you are justifying people that are banning russian cripples from competing in the paralympics, giving a pass to the west that is basically telling cancer patients in russia to just fucking die.. By "oh they'll be mad at their guy, not us" If you were right, which you aren't, you've never been right in your entire fucking life, not once, but if you were, that justifies just fuckign these people into the dirt.. Jesus christ, your not just pants shittingly retarded, you are vile. The russians aren't gonna hate putin, they are gonan hate the west, they are gonna suffer because of shit the west has done.
Having a difference of opinion is one thing, bantz and shit talking is another, but you are way out there on a limb. You are one of the biggest pieces of fuckign shit on this thread, quite possibly on kiwifarms. Holy hell man, you should certainly consider crawling in the tub and opening your faggot blood filled veins. No, fuck that, i want you to buy a tenner worth of gas and douse yourself and light up. You deserve to die screaming in agony you massive fucking scumbag faggot.

It bears repeating that the only major power trying to end this war by focusing on increasing the suffering and death of ordinary civilians is the United States.

 

[UselessPieceOfShit]

Kharkiv
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People say that it's hell in Kharkiv. They spotted some chechens outside. The city will be raised to the ground it seems.

It's shit in Mariupol too. They don't have electricity and water here and people are afraid to leave their shelters. My brother is here right now. An artillery shell hit the house where he used to live until a couple days ago. It was at the outskirts of the city. Now he is in the centre of the city, and the shelling started here too. There was an explosion on the street he lives now. People can't escape the city because railroads are destroyed and escaping in your car is very dangerous.

In Kyiv, people try to escape on trains and cars. When a new train arrives, people just jump in without knowing where it's going and they end up in an unfamiliar city. When shelling starts, parents throw they kids in the train, and they get separated.

 

[BradCarter]

Rather then shilling for one side or the other, the Western Internet bubble should rather discuss how we can damage control this situation now.

As I am not in any level of government and elections aren't for months there's nothing I can do for damage control except fill up my gas cans and limit driving. Now back to shilling

 

[Sammich]

Yeah, let's point out the absolute dumbest example of the 'cancelling' as the example, right?

How do you think Russia plans on replacing the everyday things like cards? The normies gonna be pissed they can't use FB, insta, Twitter etc. too.

You think they are gonna blame putin for this? The west has been shitting on them for YEARS, fucking decades really, but the past few years they've been fucked with hard. YOu are too fucking stupid to realise how this isn't really a "well putin, it's all his fault.. let's go protest and get arrested THAT WILL HELP".. this is just reinforcing what their government have been telling them for years.

Fucking hell you are just retarded.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Rather then shilling for one side or the other, the Western Internet bubble should rather discuss how we can damage control this situation now.

Opposing sanctions on the grounds of fucking over Western Europe's standard of life is more practical and effective. Shilling for the Hoholocaust on the Internet is more entertaining though, so I think we're shit out of luck.

 

[Mr Processor]

Nyet, the only reason anybody gives a shit is because of the propaganda farms on Facecunt and Shitter. This kinda thing has been going on for years, the only reason people give a shit now is because they are told to.

"People believe whatever the media tell them to believe. And I tell *the media* what to believe."

Kane fucking called it, in 1995 of all years.

Since the DNC is now in charge again and they want revenge for the non-existent "Russian hackers made our people not-president in 2016" thing they still feverishly believe in, they decided to screw over Ukraine and provoke Russia to invade by teasing and suggesting NATO and nuclear weapons repeatedly. While Vladimir Putin is wrong from a self-determination perspective, if you know anything about Russian history, it's completely understandable from a geopolitical one.

Sure, one might have to deal with sanctions and threats to be shut off from the world financial system, among other things, but it's not as bad as potentially having a "not very friendly to your interests" sort of country able to obtain a foothold in the region, and worse, possibly obtain WMDs mere hundreds of miles away from your capital city, and more than likely aimed directly at it.

Kane lives in death.

A lot of people in the DNC foreign policy establishment were hoping for more Yeltsins forever, and instead they got Putin. They've never really forgiven him for not being Yeltsin v2. On the other hand, the Russian people haven't forgotten life under Yeltsin. So I don't think another Yeltsin would last very long if they were somehow able to get one in there, and I think any leader less "Western friendly" than a Yeltsin will never be acceptable to them.

 

[The Ugly One]

The thing is: even if Russkies wanted to rise up against their government they couldn't do it on their own since Putler has his personal SS mercenaries build up from non ethnic Russians who don't have a problem to massacre the Ivans. A bit like with the Cossacks during the time of the czar. In my pov it's better to just heavily attack the Russian elite with sanctions. In the end it's not guaranteed if it works out but at least some random oligarch has more influence on the state of Russia then all 150 Million Ivans combined.

How do you sanction the elite? Ban international yacht sales? Russian elites had it pretty good during the Cold War; they'll have it good during the new one as well. The idea that we could get rid of governments we don't like by starving out the people and denying them medical supplies and waiting for them to rise up and overthrow their government has, as far as I know, worked a grand total of zero times. Color revolutions have been a more successful strategy, but those generally require pulling a country into our orbit first, betraying some prior handshake agreement we had with them, and throwing their leader to the wolves.

 

[stakenifes]

You think they are gonna blame putin for this? The west has been shitting on them for YEARS, fucking decades really, but the past few years they've been fucked with hard. YOu are too fucking stupid to realise how this isn't really a "well putin, it's all his fault.. let's go protest and get arrested THAT WILL HELP".. this is just reinforcing what their government have been telling them for years.

Fucking hell you are just retarded.

Haha mate you're clearly not even Russian and pretend to talk like you know how the average Russian is going to react with such PASSION bro, keep it up you absolute retard.

 

[Übertroon]

Putin warned NATO and the US way back in 2014 that he would act if anyone tried to weaponise Ukraine or Georgia. Russia is acting in self-defence.

"Don't arm yourself to defend yourself from me or I'll cut you up. I'm sane! You're the crazy ones! Is that a knife? You asked for it! I'm defending myself! HIIIYAAAHHH!"

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

You do realise they have VPNs?
Walling off internet doesnt do shit mate.

But hey. Even if we disregard that. Russian with internrt can clearly see what insurrections end up like in dictatorship contries

What do you think happened to guys protesting anti war in russia?

Beaten and with criminal records at best. Shot behind the police station at worst

There's been a lot of retarded takes, but this is probably the greatest retarded take of them all.

Before the pandemic slammed all our dicks in the door, I would usually visit mainland China about once or twice a year. Every single time I've visited I've always had one young person ask me how to get hooked up with a VPN; you cannot get one in country and have to rely on others, usually foreigners, to hook them up.

The problem is that the PRC abso-fucking-lutely can tell if someone is using a VPN through their internet connection, just like your ISP can tell. The good news that Chinese police are extremely lenient about this shit - they know 99% of VPN users in China are just using them to access Facebook or post photos of their dinner on Instagram, so who gives a shit. However, if they don't like you or you arouse any sort of suspicion, you'll get your dick stepped on faster than you can say Ching Chong.

I've not once used a VPN on a private WiFi in China, because it isn't worth having the person I'm staying with get hassled by the cops why a VPN was active in the house while a foreigner was there.

 

[Wy4M]

Victoria 'Nuland' Nudelman and Geoffrey Pyatt's leaked phone conversation from 2014 where they discuss who will lead Ukraine.

Victoria mentioning that Klitschko isn't capable of being in politics the mayor of Kiev is funny; her 'Fuck the EU', how they manipulate the UN and 'Biden is willing'
gives a good idea who's running the show then and now.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Kharkiv
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Just look at that vaunted Russian precision. They are precisely targeting the entire city.