Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[ColtWalker1847]

Zelensky is giving a speech right now

''If you don't speak and support us, who will? If Ukraine falls, you will fall too'', ''We will win this fight of Good vs Evil, Light vs Dark''

Okay I'm done having sympathy for this deluded fucking cunt.

Did you not expect a leader who is in a fight for his survival to be jingoistic? What did you expect him to say?

"Guys, I appreciate the help but we are going to lose. This war is a delaying action and we are bleeding the enemy at great expense to ourselves so that I can negotiate a ceasefire where I surrender a sizeable portion of the country in exchange for keeping my job."

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

He's literally incorrect about this. The USA and other signatories promised to advance Ukrainian security issues to the security council, not 'protect it forever.' And Russia was also a signatory.

The reason why Ukraine gave up their nukes is because they were going to be put on a non-proliferation sanction regime by literally the entire world if they didn't.

Yeah, the giving up the nukes wasn't a big deal for real, it was continuing to try to suck dick from a country on the other side of the globe instead of either ignoring all dicks or sucking Poland or Russia's.

It's important to realize what side of your bread the dick is buttered, or something.

 

[Wy4M]

Claims that the Ukraine army is fighting AZOV/AIDAR themselves.
copy-pasta: "The nationalist battalions pose a big threat not only to the Russian soldiers, but also to the local civilians, who were kept hostage in the city, as well as to the current regime in Kiev and President Volodymir Zelenskiy. The crowds of armed nationalists have gained power in Ukraine during the last few years. "

Keep in mind that the source is pro-Russia so could be bogus.

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[MrJokerRager]

I'm not saying a NATO vs Russia air war over Ukraine would be a good thing (I am against US direct intervention), I just cannot comprehend the blackhole-IQ move of destroying the world and >90-95% of the populations of all countries involved as opposed to just fighting a conventional war.

Like is losing an air wing or tank division really worth global suicide?

We just had one political party have a giant chimpout of epic proportions since Trump won, to the point they impeached him twice over bullshit and wanted the country to burn, to own orange man. Don't forget the face diaper mandates and lockdowns as well.

Even though Trump was mostly neutered by his own party and the Democrats would have taken back the white house in 2024 because no Republican in 2024 would have been able to match him and plus all the tiredness from the media noise.

The idea of Trump winning alone, a former friend of their cabal, just made them go apeshit.

Now apply it to two nations that always brag about having the biggest cock and one nation pimp slapping the other without retaliating, well they will look weak to the rest of the world since not every culture is a cucked morally degenerate fuckhole like urban America that votes blue no matter who.

 

[LocalFireDept]

Did you not expect a leader who is in a fight for his survival to be jingoistic? What did you expect him to say?

"Guys, I appreciate the help but we are going to lose. This war is a delaying action and we are bleeding the enemy at great expense to ourselves so that I can negotiate a ceasefire where I surrender a sizeable portion of the country in exchange for keeping my job."

I was hoping more for "we have to stop the dang dirty RUSKOPS from blocking our TRUE and HONEST Lovequest. Support us in the War and we will find a Boyfriend Free Girl for every Son of Ukraine and Virgin Male on Earth!"

 

[borsabil]

Exactly were a step away from liberal internment camps and Mccarthy trials this should be clear to anyone even me someone who supports messing with Russia

I legit think there's been some olcoordination to limit more contested talking points like that to avoid having it override other narratives since any sentiments like that seem to be more tactically deployed and limited

There's only a few countries on the planet that feed themselves. The big ones being Canada, the US, Brazil, Australia, Russia. Most of the turd world gets anything from a third to half of their daily calorific intake from the few surplus nations. Food shortages aren't like economic recessions where people slowly get mad at the government. No, when folks start going hungry quickly things get really fucked up in days.

Fuck me. The Ukies set fire to an adjacent office building as the Russians were about to take possession of the facility. The fact that they're jumping all over bullshit like this is way more worrying. What a drama queen.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

Can someone explain to me why people say Ukraine is full of Neo-Nazi's? And if that's the case, why the fuck are people feeling bad for Ukraine if they are full of Neo Nazi's?

 

[MeltyTW]

This is some serious shit for half the world All you sanctions retards will be eating Crow.

I prefer duck or geese

 

[AnOminous]

The same people who said 20 years ago that it was wrong to discriminate against Muslims for 9/11 because it will just radicalize them

I'll point out that even in the days immediately following 9/11, Dubya not only did not stoke anti-Muslim sentiment but actively discouraged it. For someone often (and often correctly) accused of lacking nuance, he actually did the country a solid by trying to heal wounds rather than cause more.

Remember, in that period, absolute fucking mongs were doing stuff like attacking Sikhs because they thought they were Muslims somehow. You know, because towelhead=bad.

 

[TheTractor]

He wants to drag every breathing life form into this conflict instead of taking the fall and looking like a dumbass.

Each days he looks dumber, more egotistical and full on deluded, I'd be fucking embarassed taking up arms fighting for this asshole.

Listen to his cringe speeches, it's worse than Trudeau's.

 

[The Ugly One]

Fuck, the american are so stoneheaded. They think reminding them of their foreign policy achievements is making excuses for putin. They half heartedly accept iraq invasion was a mess but then go on how saddam was a dictator so situation isn't compatible to ukraine.

MOTHERFUCKERS ONLY IF YOU HAD 1 PERSON INSTEAD OF THE CIRCUS OF REAGAN, CIA, BUSH, OBAMA ETC, IT WOULD'VE BEEN SIMPLE TO COMPREHEND HOW THE DOMINOS FALL.
Mfs are so tonedeaf that they wouldn't even believe UNCLE SAM is a pejorative

The current government of UK isn't a dictatorship or any other kind of tyranny. It was installed by a CIA-backed coup. That makes it a liberal democracy.

 

[Coccxys]

If Ukraine falls, you will fall too'

They've been running with "you need to stop him or you're next" nonsense a lot. I see zero evidence that putin intends to go any further than Ukraine and of he is dumb enough to strike NATO then it will be dealt with as a war between NATO and Russia not Ukraine and Russia.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Yeah, the giving up the nukes wasn't a big deal for real, it was continuing to try to suck dick from a country on the other side of the globe instead of either ignoring all dicks or sucking Poland or Russia's.

It's important to realize what side of your bread the dick is buttered, or something.

They did try that. It was called Euromaidan, not Americamaidan or NATOmaidan. The entire point of that move was to cozy up to their western neighbors. All of their moves dating back to the Orange Revolution were to try to do that.

The US and NATO stuff was 99% Russia paranoia sperging that they overreacted to and made real.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Can someone explain to me why people say Ukraine is full of Neo-Nazi's? And if that's the case, why the fuck are people feeling bad for Ukraine if they are full of Neo Nazi's?

Because of a very astroturfed media campaign. This image sums it up nicely

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Lol I find it hilarious that countries would actually think like that. For one, there's absolutely no assurance that years down the road the situation won't change and the promises made won't be worth toilet paper, and for two there's no way to know whether or not the nation making an offer like that actually has good intentions. The former is particularly true for shartmartcracies because it's not like cutting a deal with a monarchy where chances are the person you made the deal with will rule for decades later and their heir will likely have a similar world view to them. One election and you could easily be dealing with what acts like a completely different nation.

Not to mention, location wise, it's just not a feasible promise. If this was some Caribbean nation, they could probably take the promise at face value for many reasons, mainly that they're in our back yard, are of direct strategic relevance, and any potential adversaries won't embroil us in a global war. None of that is applicable to Ukraine.

 

[MrJokerRager]

It gets even funnier because the Russians promised to respect Ukrainian territory as well. So Ukraine trusted both the US and the Russians to keep their end of the bargain.

Ukraine should have just joined the non aligned movement and become neutral. And also keep the nukes as well and make even more nukes.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Exactly were a step away from liberal internment camps and Mccarthy trials

Did you miss what happened in the Covid Pandemic or what happened to the Jan 6 protestors?

Your already there.

 

[grasshoppermustard]

Apparently the anti russian sentiment is getting out of control, a couple of italians took a russian national out into the woods and tried to kill him, results aren't pretty.

Spoiler: nsfw warning

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[AnOminous]

Fillet O Fish is the best tasting cheapest burger ever.

This picture of Trump with borgars for the sportsball players always really amused me. Look how mad fat fucks got about this, as if the sportsball players weren't completely thrilled to down some borgars instead of whatever soy and steroid infusions they were used to, with the President no less.

 

[UselessPieceOfShit]

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Claims that the Ukraine army is fighting AZOV/AIDAR themselves.
copy-pasta: "The nationalist battalions pose a big threat not only to the Russian soldiers, but also to the local civilians, who were kept hostage in the city, as well as to the current regime in Kiev and President Volodymir Zelenskiy. The crowds of armed nationalists have gained power in Ukraine during the last few years. "

Keep in mind that the source is pro-Russia so could be bogus.

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I'm really suspicious about any Russian source that claims that there are some Nazi/AZOV clique in charge of Ukraine/Mariupol/your mom's ass. Ukrainians nazis are the Russian boogeyman the same way western faggots claim to find racist KKK TERFs under their beds.