Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[God of Nothing]

Can Zelensky stop taking this situation like it's a movie.

He thinks he's Luke Skywalker down the Deathstar Trench run, tweeting for the miracle shot to happen and hoping to get saved by the Milenium Nato Falcon.

It's okay. He has plenty of useful idiots to die in place of him.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Ok so I just looked up the Hungarian grain exports. It's fucking nothing. $4m dollars worth. If they are pulling that kind of measly shit in they must be planning for hard times. Or it's political posturing because Orban is part of the Putin dickrider club. Not sure really.

Anyways, my freedom boner would get so much harder if this is what causes the EU to finally get rid of their anti-GMO bullshit and let the flood of US ag products in. We have so much we burn it for energy. Corn-powered stoves and ethanol and shit. But their gay protectionist rules have kept it all out. If they have a food crunch all they have to do is pull it down and problem solved.

Everything coming up Uncle Sam in this. First oil and gas, then defense articles, now agriculture. Those sweet euro leftie tears are so tasty let me kiss them away.

 

[theshitposter]

Fuck, the american are so stoneheaded. They think reminding them of their foreign policy achievements is making excuses for putin. They half heartedly accept iraq invasion was a mess but then go on how saddam was a dictator so situation isn't compatible to ukraine.

MOTHERFUCKERS ONLY IF YOU HAD 1 PERSON INSTEAD OF THE CIRCUS OF REAGAN, CIA, BUSH, OBAMA ETC, IT WOULD'VE BEEN SIMPLE TO COMPREHEND HOW THE DOMINOS FALL.
Mfs are so tonedeaf that they wouldn't even believe UNCLE SAM is a pejorative

 

[Butter Keks]

Here Null explains the entire situation.

 

[NJBear]

Time to buy stocks into Yara International

This is some serious shit for half the world All you sanctions retards will be eating Crow.

 

[Formica Sample]

So, I meant to post in this thread, not the news articles one, but the captchas have fried my brain. So, it's going here, too.

Spoiler

Archives sorted in chronological order:
Russia Opens Giant Gas Link to China as Putin Pivots East (Bloomberg; Dec 2, 2019): https://archive.vn/2O43c
Top U.S., Russian diplomats trade blame in talks over Ukraine (Washington Post; Dec 2, 2021): https://archive.ph/lRZQ3
Russia planning massive military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops, U.S. intelligence warns (Washington Post, Dec 3, 2021): https://archive.md/mDfOe
Deloitte: Why the chip shortage is lasting so long (Venture Beat; Dec 6, 2021): https://archive.md/qsj9v
Xi stresses food security at key central rural work conference (Global Times; Dec 26, 2021): https://archive.md/DkRQe
France, Germany, Russia to hold four-way talks on Ukraine in Paris (breakingnews.ie; Jan 1, 2022): https://archive.md/tExdu
Moscow’s Compellence Strategy (Foreign Policy Research Institute; Jan 18, 2022): https://archive.md/jrGVC
Statement from German Navy Chief in Delhi (Twitter; Jan 21, 2022): https://archive.md/iCsXQ
German navy chief resigns over Putin comments (Reuters; Jan 22, 2022): https://archive.md/JFYhy
Biden Weighs Deploying Thousands of Troops to Eastern Europe and Baltics (New York Times; Jan 23, 2022): https://archive.md/1jyJx
Russia Signs Oil and Gas Deals With China as Relations With the West Sour (Bloomberg; Feb 4, 2022): https://archive.vn/rNoU3
Russia Sends Second SLAVA Class Cruiser Into Mediterranean (Covert Shores; Feb 7, 2022): https://archive.md/PGUfG
Wheat and corn prices could jump if Russia invades Ukraine (CNN Business; Feb 14, 2022): https://archive.md/3gVjW
China always opposes any unilateral sanctions (Global Times Twitter; Feb 23, 2022): https://archive.md/fQoos
‘Almost certain’ Biden will release emergency oil reserves, RBC says (CNN Business; Feb 24, 2022): https://archive.md/ghBgr
China refuses to criticize Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and begins importing Russian wheat (CNN World, Feb 24, 2022): https://archive.md/
China lifts restrictions on Russian wheat imports (CNN Business; Feb 25, 2022): https://archive.md/qYTAp
Russia says it's not hitting Ukraine's civilian infrastructure. Evidence suggests otherwise (CNN World; Feb 25, 2022): https://archive.md/XiYaA
Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya (@Tsihanouskaya)February 26, 2022 tweet: https://archive.md/NcLnD
EU aims to coordinate arms shipments to Ukraine (Politico; Feb 26, 2022): https://archive.md/w6rkA
Wang Yi Speaks with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock on the Phone (Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC; Feb 27, 2022): https://archive.md/3LE77
Germany Backs New LNG Plants to Cut Russian Gas Dependence (Bloomberg; Feb 27, 2022): https://archive.vn/CuzNc
EU agrees to give €500M in arms, aid to Ukrainian military in ‘watershed’ move (Politico, Feb 27, 2022): https://archive.md/O4K1g
Kamil Galeev Ukraine/Russia conflict analysis (Twitter; Feb 27, 2022): https://archive.md/MDyWZ
Russian Oligarch Jets (Twitter; Feb 27, 2022): https://archive.md/6U2lC
Oil closes above $100 for the first time since 2014 (CNN Business; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.md/0BUCW
The list of global sanctions on Russia for the war in Ukraine (CNN Business; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.md/lNDog
Over 65% of Belarusians support constitutional amendments in referendum — official (Tass; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.md/7Y81n
Top US general meets virtually with NATO military leaders (CNN World; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.fo/5EYpG
Russia Erects Financial Defenses as Curbs Hit Banks, Markets (Bloomberg; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.vn/Jwtbn
Russia-Ukraine war live updates: Russia warns Kyiv residents to leave, convoy nears capital (NBC; Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.md/VwJPf
Israeli national shot dead outside Kyiv due to misidentification (ynet, Feb 28, 2022): https://archive.ph/Yu8Wu
Rasmussen pole on support for US joining a potential war in Europe over Ukraine (Twitter; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/i8AXr
France will provide Ukraine with $111 million in additional aid (CNN; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/rWS7T
Ukraine: 80% of Voters Think Wider European War Likely (Rasmussen; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/NByut
Emergency oil release could help offset supply fears in the short term, Chevron CEO says (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.fo/BIv9V
Italy moves its embassy from Kyiv to western Ukraine in light of "security situation": (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/eUrIi
US and allies will release 60 million barrels of oil as Ukraine war roils markets (CNN World, March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/BygTc
TV tower hit was Russian strike, says Ukraine (BBC; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/cNmdO
Russia 'barbaric' for attacking TV tower near Holocaust memorial - Ukraine (BBC, March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/IGEHk
Russian column near Kyiv hampered by breakdowns (BBC; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/VcAPE
Kyiv hit with rockets targeting Holocaust memorial and TV tower hours after Russia threatened ‘high-precision’ strikes (CNN World, March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/gciQ9
World's biggest container shipping companies temporarily halt cargo bookings to and from Russia (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/ZEctG
Russian military warns of strikes against facilities in Kyiv, according to statement via state media (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/S5vla
Russia preparing to launch large-scale information operation against Ukraine, says Ukraine's defense minister (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/onlFY
Kyiv mayor says the "enemy is on the outskirts" of the Ukrainian capital (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/59mF0
Germany and Luxembourg express support for Ukraine (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/Yx0wN
Defending Kyiv is the "key priority," says Ukrainian leader (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/D7ZaU
Russian PM announces capital controls to keep foreign business tied to Russian assets, state media reports (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/UvQhE
"Prove that you will not let us go": Zelensky asks EU leaders for solidarity after Ukraine applies to join bloc (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/T4DpF
Russian Change.org petition against Ukraine war has more than 1 million signatures (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/9mCny
China regrets deaths in Ukraine but still refuses to acknowledge Russia’s invasion (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/x8YH0
"Economic wars quite often turn into real ones," former Russian President Medvedev says (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/b6BFO
Dmitry Medvedev tweet stating, "economic wars quite often turned into real ones" (Twitter; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/LqCfL
Ukraine-Russia news live: Russia's nuclear forces put on 'enhanced combat duty' - as peace talks end on Belarus border (Sky News; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/F4DdU
Belarus joins Russia’s war on Ukraine (Politico; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/YwQVW
Diplomats walk out as Russian Foreign Minister addresses UN (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/8U5Hx
"No country in Europe can feel safe" when it comes to Putin, Lithuania's president tells CNN (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/BGo8Y
Russian forces have struck Independence Square in central Kharkiv with a powerful explosion (Kyiv Independent Twitter; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/M79n4
Boris Johnson says invasion of Ukraine is "worse than our predictions," as Europe faces "unfolding disaster" (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/qW3XG
Russia Used A Vacuum Bomb During Invasion, Claims Ukraine (NDTV; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/VWbd8
Russian-backed separatist leader expects his forces to surround Mariupol on Tuesday (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/FQ3bK
More than 20 injured in Kharkiv strike, Ukrainian Emergency Service says (CNN World; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/gDabh
Білоруські війська зайшли на Чернігівщину (Unian; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/vw9pl
Poland will not send jets to Ukraine (NATO; March 1, 2022): https://archive.md/Ft4lF

These are the ones I forgot to date:
Threat of Russian invasion of Ukraine tests Biden administration (Washington Post): https://archive.fo/fUKRf
What you need to know about tensions between Ukraine and Russia (Washington Post): https://archive.md/YstgI
NATO nations aren't exactly in fighting form (Daily Mail UK): https://archive.fo/a6b6X
Are you ready for nuclear war over Ukraine? (American Thinker): https://archive.md/9M3Cl
NATO? If Russia Conquered Europe, It Would be an Improvement (American Thinker): https://archive.md/wqSNf
Slaughterhouse Russia: How many Russians have been sacrificed on the altar of Public Health? (Edward Slavsquat's Substack): https://archive.md/uOuOL
Russian makers of Kalashnikov rifle create ‘suicide’ drone (Independent): https://archive.md/Qya4M
Statista Putin approval rating: https://archive.md/4bcEL
Multipolarity versus Sinocentrism: Chinese and Russian Worldviews and Relations (The Asan Forum): https://archive.md/7K7P2
Russia adopts compulsory evacuation law & protocols for mass graves (Edward Slavsquat's Substack): https://archive.md/O2xI0
Canada deploys special forces to Ukraine amid rising tensions with Russia (Global News Canada): https://archive.md/bJalx
Ukraine Can’t Afford Presidential Prosecutions (FP Insider Access): https://archive.md/yz71z
Gerhard Schröder to chair Nord Stream 2 Board of Directors (RBTH): https://archive.md/q1yZX
France’s Macron Calls for EU-Russia Security Pact in Break With U.S. Calls for Unity (Moscow Times): https://archive.md/XDBNX
Ukraine Needs Help Surviving Airstrikes, Not Just Killing Tanks (Defense One): https://archive.md/p1qqw
Rusia completa su despliegue militar: rodeó a Ucrania y podría invadir en cualquier momento: https://archive.md/GveTD
A Short History of NATO: https://archive.md/OWFvf
Georgia started war with Russia: EU-backed report (Reuters): https://archive.md/udEKH
Ukraine invaded; Africans most affected: https://archive.md/H7V7N
Russian banks cut off from Visa and Mastercard: https://archive.md/zO4Re
Russian BMD-4M amphibious vehicle flips: https://archive.md/cYzAC
Odessa Ass Bandit: https://archive.md/Ck3l0
Pro-Russian Chechen forces showing off the contents of UA National Guard armoury: https://archive.md/fNWvD
Germany send 1000 anti-tank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to Ukraine: https://archive.md/BQjxP
Russian shells hit the radioactive waste storage facility of the Kyiv branch of the Radon Association: https://archive.md/I4m2V
Joining the Ukrainian Army as a Foreinger (Reddit): https://archive.md/vEfHx
Ukrainians can bring their pets to Poland: https://archive.md/X1xFk
The world may be witnessing the complete unraveling of Vladimir Putin: https://archive.ph/pLu31
The mayor of the second largest city in Ukraine announces the handover of the city to Russian forces: https://archive.md/ji1k5
Updated list of cyber groups involved: https://archive.md/WOqxa
Ukrainian MP — ‘We are fighting for the New World Order’: https://archive.md/Mr0Ij
Here’s where Russian oligarchs and their families own property in NYC: https://archive.md/OxZ5A
Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says: https://archive.md/mZPv8
Reusing 2014 gore footage: https://archive.md/WEwOi
US will not set up a no-fly zone: https://archive.md/eCg2x

80% of these didn't have archives. The thread on archival tools is here.

I'll post another list when it's more organized and up-to-date.

 

[LUNEKO]

Please explain how the conflict suddenly becomes nuclear.

People keep saying n000x n000x n000x!!! but nobody seems to want to explain how shit goes from an air war over Ukraine to fucking Moscow and DC mutually resetting one another to zero

Putin told his nuclear deterrence forces to be on high alert after seeing the west response to the invasion
Putin is more than ready to risk nuclear conflict over west intervention and NATO is well aware of this.
i imagine this is why NATO is very hesitant to start shit
And even taking nukes out of the equation a war of NATO v Russia would create a massive bout of human suffering.
I am no general or have any military experience but the 2 biggest armies in the world going at each other couldn't possibly be good for anyone, specially over the most corrupt and pedo enabling shithole in Europe

 

[Coccxys]

"Herp derp we should have invaded Russia in 2005 instead, totally wouldn't have been a nuclear shit show."

 

[MrJokerRager]

Please explain how the conflict suddenly becomes nuclear.

People keep saying n000x n000x n000x!!! but nobody seems to want to explain how shit goes from an air war over Ukraine to fucking Moscow and DC mutually resetting one another to zero

Well if we attack Russian military targets, its basically going to be us or them, there is no more middle ground.

The retarded boomers in this land see Russia as an existential threat and so do their folks to us.

Its like how much the Nazis attacked the Soviets, there was only going to be last man standing.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

really depends what they use it for, in theory most stuff has an equivalent under linux. with the west going full retard those options that were more expensive (not due software but setting up, training users etc) before but they can run themselves. who knows that might even kick up a major push in certain areas, costing those companies more than just dropping their russian clients


moldova maybe, but I doubt it. I assume it will be over before they ever get there to start shit in the first place. it doesn't really have anything russia would want either and no strategic significance (as far as I know, too lazy to check). his beef seems to be with ukraine (for now).

Jesus christ, the only reason there was a population boom that was sustainable was because of the discovery of synthetic fertilizer, without it and a shortage of grain on top shit's gonna get UGLY
SPECIALLY in the middle east
>The plague of covid we had to endure for 2 years
>Russia has declared war and broken any sense of permanent peace in Europe and the world
>Now that countries start to isolate in anticipation of war grain and fertilizer shortages begin anew everywhere
>After decades of humanitarian aid famine is on the horizon
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
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Death's late to the party, as always.

 

[Burt Offerings]

Just noticed Zelenzky is also a midget. What is it with short men going into politics
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Has anybody called him Soylensky yet

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Putin told his nuclear deterrence forces to be on high alert after seeing the west response to the invasion
Putin is more than ready to risk nuclear conflict over west intervention and NATO is well aware of this.
i imagine this is why NATO is very hesitant to start shit
And even taking nukes out of the equation a war of NATO v Russia would create a massive bout of human suffering.
I am no general or have any military experience but the 2 biggest armies in the world going at each other couldn't possibly be good for anyone

I'm not saying a NATO vs Russia air war over Ukraine would be a good thing (I am against US direct intervention), I just cannot comprehend the blackhole-IQ move of destroying the world and >90-95% of the populations of all countries involved as opposed to just fighting a conventional war.

Like is losing an air wing or tank division really worth global suicide?

 

[TheTractor]

Zelensky is giving a speech right now

''If you don't speak and support us, who will? If Ukraine falls, you will fall too'', ''We will win this fight of Good vs Evil, Light vs Dark''

Okay I'm done having sympathy for this deluded fucking cunt.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Jesus christ, the only reason there was a population boom that was sustainable was because of the discovery of synthetic fertilizer, without it and a shortage of grain on top shit's gonna get UGLY
SPECIALLY in the middle east
>The plague of covid we had to endure for 2 years
>Russia has declared war and broken any sense of permanent peace in Europe and the world
>Now that countries start to isolate in anticipation of war grain and fertilizer shortages begin anew everywhere
>After decades of humanitarian aid famine is on the horizon
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
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That rad painting looks like it's missing a horseman.

 

[Übertroon]

Here Null explains the entire situation.

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It gets even funnier because the Russians promised to respect Ukrainian territory as well. So Ukraine trusted both the US and the Russians to keep their end of the bargain.

 

[Merry]

Bit of a tl;dr political rant inspired by Jersh finally mentioning Carl Schmitt on his stream today.


I believe that liberalism's final establishing shot at the end of WW2, the atom bomb, will be its undoing. Nukes were ironically invented as liberalism's final "if you do anything that we define as bad war we can completely vaporize you" tool, and were used in that role against Japan. The fact is that multiple illiberal countries have atomic weapons and neoliberal nations like America and the nations of the EU cannot effectively engage in "peacekeeping" to deal with these illiberal "warmongers" who threaten their economic new world order.

Russia cannot be direct engaged at all, it can only be sanctioned and preemptively punished as a political unit and as a collective culture (which at the same time doesn't exist btw, anyone can be Russian/Ukrainian in NATO's and Russia's empires according to them). America has relied on its ability to strike out against countries that behave in an illiberal manner and defy the New World Order they've established by exercising their right to war or not participate in international free trade (see Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, half of South America and Africa, etc, etc). If they do try and engage Russia directly, it's nuclear hellfire and an instant return in every nation on the planet, including the nuked ones, to the preliberal world of essentially always having a good excuse to fight over anything. The entire liberal framework would be dead instantly in that situation, and a century of bottled up tension worldwide would get unleashed like a supervolcano.

And yet even without nukes, the old liberal framework and world order is slowly dying. Its vanguard America is politically crippled and bleeding economically after its own policy hamstrung it to China. People no longer tow the party line or take it seriously. Most critics of America today are people who were liberals 5-10 years ago and gradually became disgusted by what liberalism has become. And either way, nukes are providing either the thing that stops globalism from eclipsing all the nations of the world by staying its "peacekeeping", or the means of tearing it down physically if they decide to get extra hypocritical. If liberalism cannot encompass the planet, by whatever means, its economic theories will implode and the entire system will be forever disgraced.

This whole thing will die either way, and the world will enter a new period of violence as it rediscovers what war and force actually mean as a means to exercise freedom and sovereignty. As much as it will hurt it will be necessary to remember our humanity. Ernst Junger taught that lesson well, war is terrible, but it also brings out the best in people like all extreme situations do.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Here Null explains the entire situation.

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Lol I find it hilarious that countries would actually think like that. For one, there's absolutely no assurance that years down the road the situation won't change and the promises made won't be worth toilet paper, and for two there's no way to know whether or not the nation making an offer like that actually has good intentions. The former is particularly true for shartmartcracies because it's not like cutting a deal with a monarchy where chances are the person you made the deal with will rule for decades later and their heir will likely have a similar world view to them. One election and you could easily be dealing with what acts like a completely different nation.

 

[Fcret]

Here Null explains the entire situation.

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He's literally incorrect about this. The USA and other signatories promised to advance Ukrainian security issues to the security council, not 'protect it forever.' And Russia was also a signatory.

The reason why Ukraine gave up their nukes is because they were going to be put on a non-proliferation sanction regime by literally the entire world if they didn't.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Zelensky is giving a speech right now

''If you don't speak and support us, who will? If Ukraine falls, you will fall too'', ''We will win this fight of Good vs Evil, Light vs Dark''

Okay I'm done having sympathy for this deluded fucking cunt.

“If you don’t side with us, you’re against us”

 

[JohnDoe]

Like is losing an air wing or tank division really worth global suicide?

The loss of [X amount of military] isn't about the cost in men and material to replace it, but that fact that is leads to losing the war. Which may be a war of survival, after all.

Like the article asked "Is the world worth having without [our country] in it?" That's the perspective (and the correct one) if you value your people and nation above all the other ones. If the rest of the world is about to murder you and yours, then fuck it, take as many of the fuckers with you.