Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Happy Fish]

Kiwifarms is like, one of the few places where you can honestly post and discuss opinions on things that dissent against the mainstream, popular, and accepted views.

So, I can never understand the types that come into these threads and go "Hey RETARDS! You're ALL RETARDED FOR NOT AGREEING WITH THE MAINSTREAM VIEW! If you try to discuss it with me I'll call you out for BEING SO RETARDED!"

Especially when they're just pushing the mainstream, globohomo viewpoint. Every other venue on the internet caters to their view. Why come to the one place that doesn't and whinge endlessly at people for not doing so?

It's like choosing to sit in the smoking section of a restaurant, and complaining about people smoking. It's so odd to me.

To be fair this is one of the few places they can go and use all the meanie words they want to people they disagree with and then go laugh at fat people too.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Every unnecessary day that passes the more and more I think the fucking Ukrainians can stave off this invasion. Russians should be ashamed of themselves with this very weak and incompetent show of force.

 

[Matt Damon]

Ukrainian leader, go fuck yourself.

Frankly I'm kind of happy about him shitting on NATO and effectively demanding the initiation of WWIII.

The more mask-off the Ukrainians go, the less tenable the narrative of "the lovable plucky underdog who dindu nuffin" becomes.

 

[MeltyTW]

Nah you faggots that were Pro-Russia all thought Ukraine was gonna cave in a couple of days. Now you are coping and starting to make reasonable posts about the length of this campaign. Remember guys this wasn't an "invasion" it was a "special operation".

idk i had plenty of arguments with people i dont think ive seen too many people come off as just pro russia outright though they all seem to be varying levels of tolerating russia or just disliking the west and ukraine because the west and ukraine dislike them and this happened right when canada did its own shit with bank freezing.

and Ukraine

id say more nato tbh i think nato had a ton of ways to deal with the conflict from addressing some of russias concerns of treatment of east ukranians early or giving ukraine nato membership. idk maybe im just too used to slavs wanting each other to die for minor differences.

Nearly all the info we have points to Russia expecting mass uprising in favor of Russia from day 1. Look how piss poor their logistics have become barely a week into the war. They never planned for a weeks long conflict at minimum. Hell, they lost a Major General to combat a couple days ago, which is basically unheard of for a major nation in modern warfare.

i still dont believe that, i basically wont until i see the corpse or a nation with no interest in the conflict for some reason confirms it or moscow itself admits it. thats too much.

Every unnecessary day that passes the more and more I think the fucking Ukrainians can stave off this invasion. Russians should be ashamed of themselves with this very weak and incompetent show of force.

nah theyre well and truly fucked until russia iraqs itself. zelensky is at most setting the stage for the non russian guy after the russian guy is left to be hung to come in. even a slavic meme superpower like russia is still a superpower.

 

[Mussi]

Frankly I'm kind of happy about him shitting on NATO and effectively demanding the initiation of WWIII.

The more mask-off the Ukrainians go, the less tenable the narrative of "the lovable plucky underdog who dindu nuffin" becomes.

Until the west's shitlibs decide they agree with the angry Hohol shouting at them more than they are concerned with not getting their families vaporized by Russian bombs.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

So what proof is there of Vlod "paddington" Zelenski in Poland so far?

I am ready to belive that. I just want something to show my parents

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I still love you BB. Can we at least agree that no matter who wins, the Kazars, specifically their females with their milkers, need to be preserved for the good of all mankind.

No. I love you too, stay away from those girls, they are no good. Let them get their own men without using an intermediary, like a pimp or escort service.

 

[Sammich]

Oh wow. Agriculture and trucking. Two things I have spent my life working in. I'm so sorry random internet doomer you are right. I am wrong. There is no way the US could operate without Russian imports to do any of that anymore without significant cost spikes. It's not like we have our own substantial production or that we can reduce use on a short term basis for region specific non-critical shortfalls or just put fucking tap water in a def tank because who the fuck cares.

No no. You are right with your bullshit sourced from wikipedia. This is clearly something to worry about because we will starve. We are ded. RIP America. We embargoed Putin.

Calm the fuck down, you goddamn idiot. I never once, NOT ONE FUCKING TIME claimed starvation. I tried to explain that the price would go up. Never claimed we'd run out, all i said was the price would go up and that would drive the price of our stuff upwards. You are dumb, or you are dishonest, you don't seem to grasp the very basic ideas of economics. if the supply goes down, the price goes up. This shit is very interesting to me, I openly admit you seem to know more about it, but your conclusions are just wrong. I can't see how you can claim the prices aren't gonan go up when they have been.

You jackasses try to put words in my mouth and then argue against the dumb shit you said i said. Your flailing around acting like because you did something that apparently you are the only one qualified to speak about it amuses me to a point. I don't have to drive a truck for 50 years to know the route from chicago to st louis. I don't have to have a 10 thousand acre farm to know that if you have to pay extra for what you need that it's gonna make the total cost a bit higher. I don't have to spend 20 years working at a group home for retards to know one when i see one.

Here is a couple of sources saying the same things I am

https://www.wlfi.com/news/farmers-f...cle_01a222ab-0d01-5f82-9992-30f22494adfa.html

https://farmpolicynews.illinois.edu...isruptions-as-grains-extend-blistering-rally/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...up_1000_a_month_due_to_fertilizer_prices.html

 

[LUNEKO]

So what proof is there of Vlod "paddington" Zelenski in Poland so far?

I am ready to belive that. I just want something to show my parents

Russia media claimed it, Ukraine says it isn't true.
No confirmation and it could be just made up

 

[bread n circuses]

Every unnecessary day that passes the more and more I think the fucking Ukrainians can stave off this invasion. Russians should be ashamed of themselves with this very weak and incompetent show of force.

Ok. Good to see you want Russia to embrace the American military doctrine of murdering a million civilians to prevent a few military casualties.

You realize that Russia could decide to have an American style “destroy all infrastructure and mass murder civilians” war whenever it wants to right? Russia is about to encircle the core of Ukrainian army. Its capital city is under siege. Its cities are falling one by one. It’s less than 2 weeks in. Russia has 10% of its total manpower in Ukraine.

For all the talk of dumb Russian shills, the Ukraine people are practically drooling retards in comparison.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

i still dont believe that, i basically wont until i see the corpse or a nation with no interest in the conflict for some reason confirms it or moscow itself admits it. thats too much.

I personally believe that Russia deciding to invade right when the mud season was beginning to start damn near proves on it's on that they didn't expect significant organized military resistance, either that or the Russian military command is exceptionally exceptional.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Nah you faggots that were Pro-Russia all thought Ukraine was gonna cave in a couple of days. Now you are coping and starting to make reasonable posts about the length of this campaign. Remember guys this wasn't an "invasion" it was a "special operation".

If you believe that the Ukrainians should continue fighting then look at the below as it applies:

Their is no Deus ex machina, no EU armed intervention, no NATO assistance, no military tactic that will save them, no political slight of hand to bring in the US.

They have NO CHANCE.

Putin is not out to implement genocide. He isn't trying to make them adopt Communism. Will life be less free under a puppet state?

Sure. Fuck, it might be really bad but it's better than death. It's one thing to oppose an invader that wants to exterminate you or alter your day to day life dramatically. It's another to die needlessly for a slightly worse life.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I support Russia especially after they threatened to nuke the world with me and my family included. This is not a brainwashed take they have the right to kill me and my family for the offensive war they started. Shout out to Coach Red Pill!

 

[Duke Nukem]

Zelensky is giving a speech right now

''If you don't speak and support us, who will? If Ukraine falls, you will fall too'', ''We will win this fight of Good vs Evil, Light vs Dark''

Okay I'm done having sympathy for this deluded fucking cunt.

Looks like he's trying to paint himself as the Jewish manlet version of Luke Skywalker battling against an evil Empire.

In reality, 2022 is more akin to being the Star Wars IX of the 2020 trilogy. It's the last one, the writers couldn't come up with any new and interesting villains, and so they decided, you know what, fuck it. Let's unearth a decrepit has-been just for the sake of nostalgia!

There could have been many more interesting villains instead.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out you whiny cunt.

You're gonna find many different opinions here. If you don't like it, go to CNN and jerk off to how noble you are.

 

[Mussi]

I support Russia especially after they threatened to nuke the world with me and my family included. This is not a brainwashed take they have the right to kill me and my family for the offensive war they started. Shout out to Coach Red Pill!

Who are you even talking to at this point?

 

[MeltyTW]

I personally believe that Russia deciding to invade right when the mud season was beginning to start damn near proves on it's on that they didn't expect significant organized military resistance, either that or the Russian military command is exceptionally exceptional.

i fucking guess, i mean yay but its hard to believe it went that retard clown show.

In reality, 2022 is more akin to being the Star Wars IX of the 2020 trilogy. It's the last one, the writers couldn't come up with any new and interesting villains, and so they decided, you know what, fuck it. Let's unearth a decrepit has-been just for the sake of nostalgia!

i think biden the lich that devoured the souls of the dinosaurs is a perfectly interesting villain when he isnt shitting himself.

go to CNN and jerk off

thats where the sentence could have ended given cnns sex scandals.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Hysterical shitlib on the internet cries and pisses his pants. More at 11.

Maybe you’re too stupid or ideologically blinded to understand what NATO and Ukraine did to help provoke this conflict, but they did and this outcome has been on the table for a while now. I’m also kind of astounded that you think “Putin shills” are gonna face consequences, as if being wrong about the duration of an invasion on Kiwifarms is some terrible fate. What do they deserve and how are they going to get it?

I feel sorry for the propagandized retards in Lvov who are about to get killed to boost some Jewish fag’s international profile. Your internet spergout isn’t going to stop them from losing and dying.

I'll jyst leave this here. Its Psaki being grilled by reporters over a recording of Victoria Nuland and another state department employee discussing who to put in the new Ukraine Government.
Victoria Nuland of the Trump impeachment.

FUCK NOT BEING ABLE TO PAST THE URL.

On YouTube titled
"This is what you cook for Ukraine? State Dept Psaki grilled over leaked tape"

 

[Disheveled Human]

Who are you even talking to at this point?

Vladmir Putins threat to use nukes. What do you think I am talking about Santa Claus?

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

See you tomorrow