Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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>the entire west does not want to do business with child killers
Lol really? Aside from the entire west being very much in favor of trooning out kids and abortion, it's currently very much in favor of Ukraine despite the fact that there are plenty of dead children in Donbas. The modern west's morality extends only so far as a camera lens and a narrative.
If that is your justification to blow up civilians then kudos to you.

If you can't take the idea of nuclear war and everyone threatening everyone else with a good ol' fashioned nuking, maybe you out to seriously consider growing a pair of fucking balls instead of being a Victorian maid.

"Wah, he said he gonna nuke me. Wah. Me sad. Brain broken."

For fuck's sake, your parents made it through the Cold War, I'm pretty sure you can make it through this. I don't know, jam a Funco pop in your ass or whatever.
I am not the one in support of the faggot threatening to blow up the world because he can't handle an invasion. Imagine acting like its cool if some nigger held your family at gun point and you said bro, I understand why you are doing this, the white man is keeping you down.
 


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He played enough siege of shanghai to know whats happening next.
 
If that is your justification to blow up civilians then kudos to you.
Do you want me to list all the weddings and social gatherings the US bombed in the last 20 years? Might take a few months to put all of them in a list.

Here are some of your ukranian civilians, play stupid games win stupid prizes, turns out arming civilians with shitty gear and molotov cocktails is not effective against a superpower


 
Here you go. (Twitter archive)

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This the video you want?

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Bonus Content -- Here's a copy of the Nuland phone call itself, along with a transcript. (Archive) (RT article / Archive for completeness.)

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Just the US State Department deciding who should and shouldn't serve in the Ukrainian government.

For the retards who believe that the Ukraine is 'fighting for their independence' listen to the Nuland call and listen carefully. The Ukraine lost it's independence in 2014, what we're seeing now is 2 large powers fighting over a colonial possession.

The Russians are doing it directly the American's with their proxies. Whatever the outcome the Ukraine will never be independent.
 
So listening to Jersh's stream today he brought up that he felt it was hypocritical for 2A advocates to be against Ukraine handing out guns. My issue with this statment is that the circumstances that led the Ukranian government to take these actions far from indicate that it was a noble recognition of citizens rights to bear arms. Its obviously an attempt by a desperate government to try and avoid deposement; if the Ukrainian state somehow survived in any capacity you can bet they would immediately be confiscating these weapons. What's even worse is now this government, which clearly doesn't care for its populace in the slightest, has made their own civilians potential targets for the Russian army. Before they were at risk of being victims of unforeseen or intended attacks, now they have targets painted on their backs simply for taking the gun(which its doubtful many know how to use).
 
Do you want me to list all the weddings and social gatherings the US bombed in the last 20 years? Might take a few months to put all of them in a list.

Here are some of your ukranian civilians, play stupid games win stupid prizes, turns out arming civilians with shitty gear and molotov cocktails is not effective against a superpower

Again comparing the US which can do what they want to fucking Slavs. lmao. Why do you think just because America can do it, it means the Reds can?
 
So now that we are done emoting, can we talk about the inevitable conclusion.

Ukraine loses.

Yes, its wrong. Putin is bad. Putin has brought war to Europe and the people of a sovereign nation will suffer. Its all horrible. So what are you going to do about it? If you want to donate to charities or sponsor a family; more power to you. You are better than me.

However, the truth is that the BEST was to prevent needless deaths is to surrender. Feel free to disagree if you want but I want to prevent needless suffering as opposed to fighting a lost cause.
Hyperbole by the shitlibs killed any chance of helping them as well.

Making mountains out of molehills by calling everything Hitler lowers the bar for what is an evil fuck.

Portraying Putin as genocidal loon was a mistake since he isn't looking to gas retarded slavshits but take control of all of them.

It would make sense for Ukraine to go full mobilization of Total War to the last man if Putin carpet bombed everything in Ukraine and reduced every standing structure to ashes. And Putin has to toys to pull that off no doubt. And knows Uncle Sam would not stop him under the current regime in DC.
 
This one is pretty crazy: Sky News journalists were fired on in Ukraine. Chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay was wounded, cameraman Richie Mockler was hit twice but his body armor saved him. After watching the footage it's pretty miraculous no one was killed. The car is fucking shot to shit in the video.

I highly recommend watching the footage here: https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news...-violent-ambush-in-ukraine-this-week-12557585

I see Russia is going for the Lose the Propaganda War Ending Any% RTA like Germany did in WW1
As always, fact check journalist.

https://goo.gl/maps/B6JVCqdamoXHVXcg7 the ambush happened around this spot, they first get the 40mm round as a warning, they ignore it and then cross past those traffic cones into the deathzone and accordingly get shot to shit. Now take a look at the map where this "death squad" is doing it's business from -- its Ukranian held territory. These journalist were heading back into Kiev and got smoked by jumpy Ukranian militia and blamed it on Russia, who by the way, did not have any units in that immediately area.

There is Ukranian checkpoints at each of these locations with the marker on the one Sky News got ambushed at
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So listening to Jersh's stream today he brought up that he felt it was hypocritical for 2A advocates to be against Ukraine handing out guns. My issue with this statment is that the circumstances that led the Ukranian government to take these actions far from indicate that it was a noble recognition of citizens rights to bear arms. Its obviously an attempt by a desperate government to try and avoid deposement; if the Ukrainian state somehow survived in any capacity you can bet they would immediately be confiscating these weapons. What's even worse is now this government, which clearly doesn't care for its populace in the slightest, has made their own civilians potential targets for the Russian army. Before they were at risk of being victims of unforeseen or intended attacks, now they have targets painted on their backs simply for taking the gun(which its doubtful many know how to use).
Wasn't he just giving an example of how two different sides treat the same piece of info? Pro gun vs no gun?
 
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Another example of Ukraine's great optics:
"Anthem of Ukraine performed by a quartet of Russian orcs"

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The same people who are cheering this reacted with horror and disgust at a low IQ redneck thot pointing at naked men in a stack.

Even then, just chalk one more thing up to people cheering on a violation of the Geneva Convention. I won't say outright war crime, but it's definitely a violation. Save war crime for shooting women and kids in the back as they run.

But this shit leads to reprisals, which leads to revenge, which leads to... well... Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
 
If that is your justification to blow up civilians then kudos to you.
Lol really? What justification has there been for any of the US's jihads for global shartmartcrasy? We've already had two world wars now which were mostly about evangelizing democracy and since then every single war has revolved around whether or not a population wants that shit or not. This isn't even accounting for the pre-US SUPAPOWA wars to force such a system on other people.
 
Wasn't he just giving an example of how two different sides treat the same piece of info? Pro gun vs no gun?
Pro 2A in America = We need weapons to defend ourselves against tyranny. Pro 2A in Ukraine = we cant give civilians guns it will just result in more deaths, they should surrender against tyranny. Pick one!
 
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Do you want me to list all the weddings and social gatherings the US bombed in the last 20 years? Might take a few months to put all of them in a list.

Here are some of your ukranian civilians, play stupid games win stupid prizes, turns out arming civilians with shitty gear and molotov cocktails is not effective against a superpower


>superpower
The only thing that makes Russia a superpower is it's nukes. They're taking heavy causalities against fucking Ukraine, it doesn't matter if you win in the end. I hate the Volkssturm shit, but this should show that if Russia was in a conventional war with a major power, they'd lose even without NATO involvement. If you lose a Major General in the fucking 21st century to a country best known for being the site of a nuclear disaster, you aren't allowed to call yourself a superpower.
 
Here's the full map that guy posted.
It was created by OSINT "analysts" (trannies) so take it for what it's worth. Even taken at face value I disagree that it shows what that guy is claiming (that it would constitute half of the professional military just being completely neutralized).

At best it would appear to create an obstacle to resupply/redeployment of those forces but there are other roads that they can use.

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I'm going to lean towards bullshit on the singular reason that the arrow is moving cross-country.
 
Don't think it's popped up here yet but Russia and Ukraine have agreed to a temporary ceasefire in Mariupol and Volnovakha to allow civilians to get out (BBC's tracker gives some decent info).

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Good to note that this only concerns the Donbas fighting (Volnovakha is close to Donetsk), nothing similar occurring for Kharkov or Kiev, at least yet. Also a very good indication Russia intends on saturating the places with artillery after the ceasefire is up.
 
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