Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

People are also gonna stop buying Saudi Oil and Chinese Electronics, cause we dont support evil, right? Or, uh, oh, we uh, only don't support evil if it wont inconvenience us... Plz still updoot me.

 

[Kane Lives]

Muh democracy:
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All companies that have left Russia:
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"Americans are ready to make sacrifices. Make sure to buy war bonds to fund my next gold-plated toi-- I mean the brave mujahedeen of Ukraine."

 

[Aidan]

Apparently they do give a 3 day training camp because otherwise the way you are describing it would be retarded, like you are acting like they are picking AK's off the assembly line. No they get 3 days basic training which includes how to properly operate the fucking gun, unless you think they are so fucking stupid they cant handle such a basic task.

There are people in the military with weeks of training who can barely handle such a basic task, to be fair. I also highly doubt everyone gets the training considering they're getting fucking invaded and time is extremely short and that it's worth a damn.
I'll just take your word there's any training at all as I haven't seen that anywhere but yeah lots of retards with AKs who are going to get themselves killed and 3 days of training doesn't mean shit.

I'd suspect that they're being integrated into the military somehow, option that would make the most sense is assigning a regular army NCO to each squad to try and keep them in some sort of order. You can probably teach someone how to not be a retard with a gun in 3 days, and their tactical leadership is hopefully spending every spare second before the Russians drive on Kiev drilling them in tactical movement.

This is some larp-tier conjecture on your part. Source it or don't say it, slavs aren't known for a strong NCO corps anyway.

 

[kuuu]

Fresh shootdown footage. I can't tell what the hell it is though.

Edit: Ukrainians are claiming Mi-35

That's a nice shot. Very cinematic. Almost makes you wonder..

All companies that have left Russia:

Why do I not see a giant asterisk saying "temporarily" anywhere?

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-russia-germany-still-blocking-arms-supplies/

Exactly one week ago lol. Perhaps 'ye olde stinger got yet another Hind. Edit: Also looks like this was set-up some time beforehand. Camera is oddly static.

It's definitely mounted, and we've got a live viewer count in the corner. I'm still leaning towards it being genuine, I doubt Ukraine would go out of the way to capture a copy of one of the few Russian vehicles they don't also use and then destroy it and kill a pilot just for PR points.

 

[DumDum Did Nothing Wrong]

Muh democracy:
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Lol, they'll go crawling back to Russia in a few months. Just pandering to sjws in the west. Plus they still have factories using literal slaves to make products in China. Holla at me when these companies close those down.

 

[mr.moon1488]

People are also gonna stop buying Saudi Oil and Chinese Electronics, cause we dont support evil, right? Or, uh, oh, we uh, only don't support evil if it wont inconvenience us... Plz still updoot me.

Lol I'm kind of wondering what's going to happen after this with oil. The Saudis will be the only major producer left still willing to deal with the west since I'm assuming Russia is going to sign some exclusivity deal with China in response to this. I somehow doubt Saudi Arabia won't take full advantage of their near-monopoly.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

There will be a massive insurgent movement

Ahahaha, have you seen recordings from their train stations during the first days of invasion? If you think that were full of just women, children and elderly, I've got very bad news for you. Ukies wanted this war to be fought by the hands of NATO.

And don't forget that Ukrainian news are basically reports from the madhouse, each day they report that the next day enemy will be crushed. When the reality hits them, it's gonna be devastating.

 

[Jarch6]

Food prices havent' went up kids, it's just fine. 250 a week going to 350 doesn't mean anything. Everything is fine, that inflation isn't inflation. It's just some doomer lie to scare you.. OOGA BOOGA.. I said it didn't happen but if it did it's your fault. Great take, you blithering idiot.

I've posted sources, every single thing i've said is backed up with citations. Your stance is "just trust me dude, this guy is wrong.. I can't prove it or anything gay like that, i'm just gonna call him wrong"

Inflation was happening before the war anyways, best case scenario is it remains at the already bad level it was before this stuff happened. You can't get off Mr. Keynes Wild Ride.

The only way Russia comes out ahead on this is if they nuke the world creating a stalemate. Otherwise they will have this burnt down patch of land that they will have a hard time repairing and optimizing. Woo we got more natural resources now that we can't move because the entire west does not want to do business with child killers.

The market does not have scruples, if the west refuses to do business with Russia it will be because of a decision by the governments for strategic reasons. You are correct that Russia will not end up "well" after this as the economy will surely suffer, it is pretty much a captive market to China which will need to supply it a means to do commerce and the puppet government in Ukraine will be difficult to manage. The only alternative was to continue being encircled by NATO and eventually be cucked out of Europe down the road, so it's not like there was some secret Civilization victory strategy that Putin could attempt instead.

Spoiler: Mild Sperging @ Jersh

So listening to Jersh's stream today he brought up that he felt it was hypocritical for 2A advocates to be against Ukraine handing out guns. My issue with this statment is that the circumstances that led the Ukranian government to take these actions far from indicate that it was a noble recognition of citizens rights to bear arms. Its obviously an attempt by a desperate government to try and avoid deposement; if the Ukrainian state somehow survived in any capacity you can bet they would immediately be confiscating these weapons. What's even worse is now this government, which clearly doesn't care for its populace in the slightest, has made their own civilians potential targets for the Russian army. Before they were at risk of being victims of unforeseen or intended attacks, now they have targets painted on their backs simply for taking the gun(which its doubtful many know how to use).

At the very least they should have given them out a few weeks beforehand so they could train people to actually be of use; Sending people out there with AK47s, Molotov cocktails, and 100 hrs of Escape from Tarkov will not suffice for creating good combatants.

The same people who are cheering this reacted with horror and disgust at a low IQ redneck thot pointing at naked men in a stack.

Even then, just chalk one more thing up to people cheering on a violation of the Geneva Convention. I won't say outright war crime, but it's definitely a violation. Save war crime for shooting women and kids in the back as they run.

But this shit leads to reprisals, which leads to revenge, which leads to... well... Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Remember,

hard times create strong slavs
strong slavs create hard times
hard times create strong slavs
...

Also, in defense of the Ukraine posters don't tell Putin or else I'm not getting that commemorative victory Samovar he's sending out. While Ukraine, as it is, may not be completely sovereign it is closer to it than whatever vassal state Putin's going to have to make is going to have. Another point, is that the economic benefits of siding with the U.S. and the west are better for Ukraine. Regarding the personal aspects, most of these countries aren't exactly fond of the U.S.S.R. years especially Ukraine which was the epicenter of the holodomor for goodness' sake. Furthermore, they're getting invaded and bombed and people are dying right now, like the U.S. civil war don't expect the wounds from this brother war to just go away in a couple years.

 

[Kane Lives]

Lol I'm kind of wondering what's going to happen after this with oil. The Saudis will be the only major producer left still willing to deal with the west since I'm assuming Russia is going to sign some exclusivity deal with China in response to this. I somehow doubt Saudi Arabia won't take full advantage of their near-monopoly.

I mean OPEC would gladly salivate at the opportunity to squeeze more profits out of dumb Americans.

That said, Russian oil and gas isnt the only source, but that depends if the West wants to pick up the pieces in other parts of the world. (Venezuela comes to mind. American shale oil industry still exist, the marginal oilfields in Europe may now be worth exploiting.)

 

[Joe Swanson]

Muh democracy:
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No, Americans aren't willing to make sacrifices for Ukrainian democracy, Our elites are willing to sacrifice our quality of life for globohomo and selling it to us as a noble thing that won't really affect us

 

[Grub]

Imagine giving the slightest fuck about two former soviet union states and whether one of them is fucking up the other one.

This whole thing is nothing but a gayop distraction from the collapse of the north american and european economies in general.

 

[Mr Processor]

And now the word of Russia is spreading. https://news.gab.com/2022/03/04/the-deplatforming-of-a-nation-state/

The Deplatforming of A Nation State – Gab News

archived 5 Mar 2022 00:59:54 UTC

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Interesting that they have RT on Gab still:

 

[Socrates]

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Edit: Ukrainians are claiming Mi-35

Yep, that's probably, you can definitely see the broom that sticks out of the gunner cockpit, but it's merged with the MG because of shit quality.

Wonder if it was transporting anybody.

 

[stakenifes]

Never once claimed I wasn't retarded! And what you posted here, i agree with. Clever to shut off facebook and twitter, but doesn't russia have their own social media? Here's their top two that both brag about more users than facebook. I thought you claimed that the west shutting down facebook/twitter or whatever would hurt them. I might have misread you though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_(service)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odnoklassniki

I'm gonna stop replying to you coz your comprehension is pretty poor. Great, they have services they use within Russia - absolutely not the point I was making. It's the services outside of Russia being blocked that limit Russians access to the outside world.

 

[Ultima Ratio Regum]

Day 10.

The Russian strategic pincer closes in on Zelensky's units in the Donbass. Russian forces from Crimea are advancing towards Kryvyi Rih, behind the Dnieper and the town of Dniepro.

Any orderly withdrawal of pro-NATO Ukrainian forces to western Ukraine will become impossible within a week. Once the pro-NATO Ukrainian forces are surrounded in the east, the Russian army will have a large number of troops to allocate to the Dnieper crossing towards central Ukraine.

Today's key facts:

• Yesterday there was a relative pause on both sides, with the Russians preparing for the second wave of assault and Zelensky's troops trying to form a coherent front in some areas, notably Zaporizhia.
• The Russian army is successfully exploiting its breakthrough in the south of the country to advance towards central Ukraine. The aim is to link up with the Russian forces in the Kiev sector to create a huge trap where the bulk of Zelensky's pro-NATO units will be trapped.

Northern axis (Kiev / Chernihiv)
The Kiev sector itself is relatively calm, the Russian army does not seem to be in a hurry to take the city and prefers to push its advantage towards the south, along the Dnieper.

The Ukrainian general staff understood this well. On the left bank of the Dnieper, the offensive has resumed.



Obykhiv:


Fastiv:


Also on the right bank of the Dnieper, again south of Kiev.





Eastern axis (Sumy / Kharkov)
In Sumy, street fighting is reported.



In Kharkov, the encirclement of the city is said to be imminent. However, it is unlikely that Ukrainian troops will withdraw, which should increase the already extensive damage to the city.

Eastern axis (Donbass)
The envelopment of the Ukrainian government forces, which are too far advanced in the Donbass, continues in the north of the front. Izium is under Russian fire.



A breakthrough in Zaporizhia towards Dnipro would result in the encirclement of pro-NATO units in the whole of south-eastern Ukraine.

Southern axis (Mariupol / Zaporizhia / Odessa)

The Russian army advances north of Mykolaiev towards the nuclear power station of Youjnooukrainsk. The Russian general staff wants to take control of the electricity supply in order to extend its authority over the population and the civil administration of the south of the country.



No organised resistance could be mounted by the Zelensky government in the south-west of the country since the beginning of the Russian operation. The Russian army is expected to reach (pro-Russian) Transnistria within a few days.

Anxious, Moldova, torn between a pro-EU party (currently in power) and a pro-Russian opposition, has applied for EU membership.

Movement towards Zaporijia
The front has stabilised in this sector in the last 48 hours since the capture of the Energodar power station.



Movement towards Odessa
For the moment, the Russian army is not trying to take Mykolaïv and is focusing on its advance north of the city.

The port of Odessa is on high alert, with the Russian fleet in position for a possible landing to take the city.

Mariupol
A ceasefire in Mariupol and Volnovakha was announced this morning by Moscow to allow the evacuation of civilians from the city, which is surrounded by Russian forces.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Yep, that's probably, you can definitely see the broom that sticks out of the gunner cockpit, but it's merged with the MG because of shit quality.

Wonder if it was transporting anybody.

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Okay, I see it. I retract my Havoc prediction. Explains why the thing was so damned low, either on the approach or getting away from a DZ.

 

[IKOL]

I think Coke centralizes the production of the syrup that bottlers use to make Coke. So not sure what they could do, but last time a Coca-cola branch got cut off due to war was Coca-Cola Deutchsland in WW2 and they ended up inventing Fanta.

You don't want to have drinkable solidol, trust me.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

I'm gonna pray for the servers to be a bit more steady, not sure if another ddos or what, shit's been rough yesterday/tonight.

Some fags' thoughts and prayers are with Ukraine. Mine are with KF's servers.