Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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redeyejedi said:
Ukrainian media and ex-deputy of the Rada Dubinsky reported that the SBU killed one of the five negotiators from the Ukrainian side, Denis Kireev. Kireev is an expert in the financial and banking sector. It is reported that he was suspected of treason. He took part in the first round of negotiations, but did not come to the second.
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Didn't someone posted the same thing and he later said it was fake?
 
Rezza said:
Didn't someone posted the same thing and he later said it was fake?
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I did. Apparently the man was present during the first talk and absent from the second. If the Ukrainean government confirmed this, then it is true.

The Foldless Brain said:
Rare picture of Putin on a normal table explaining his political reasoning to the important demographic of trainee air stewardesses.
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He made an interesting remark during this speech, saying that "we offered Ukraine many different options for demilitarization and all of them are still on the table, but if they persist, the very existence of the Ukrainean nation may be under threat". Make of this what you will.
 
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Bald and Bankrupt is a British youtuber who spends his time going around shitholes, mostly Soviet shitholes. He speaks Russian and has a huge love of everything Soviet so he has a lot of content that is either directly or tangentially related to what we're seeing here. He has a lot of Ukraine content where he wanders around trying to find things to see and chats to locals, getting some interesting insights.

Many of you will have seen his stuff already, but for those who haven't here are a few choice vids of his related to conflict in Ukraine...

Here he is wandering around Ukraine the day before the invasion, asking people if they think they are going to be invaded. The answers may surprise you.

Here he is living the whole refugee experience as he tries to get out of post-invasion Ukraine.

Here he is a year ago visiting battle sites from the Dombass conflict and talking to the civilians there.

There are many more but I don't want to shit up the thread too much. If you want to see more you should rate this post informative or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.
 
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Oxous said:
Here's a Russian news article claiming the death.

TL;DR of what it's saying: Colonel Konstantin Zizevsky, from the city of Nevinnomyssk in Stavropol Krai, died during fighting in Ukraine. The mayor of Nevinnomyssk, who was Zizevsky's "close friend" confirmed his death. He says that Zizevsky's funeral will be held on March 6th in the city of Pskov.
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Confirmed for right guy, despite Wikipedia being unhelpful. UK Weekly put a little more effort into their article on the Crimean wargames of May 2021 than everyone else who parroted the Russian sources, including identifying (then?) Lt. Col. Zizevsky's unit, though by the nickname of "Caucasian Cossacks", which Wikipedia ascribes to them, citing a 2012 article that described the 247th as a "notionally Cossack" unit. Of course, this contradicts Wikipedia's own claim about command of the unit, which attributes one "Colonel Roman Yuvakayv" as the commander, without citation, a page in his name, nor notable hits on google.

TL;DR, it's probably true, and Wikipedia is shit.
 
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The sanctions aren’t going to have the effect people wish they did. Also, with how much these sanctions are screwing over the average Russian, it’s perfect propaganda to pretty much create more animosity
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Happy Fish said:
Ralph becoming a Russian Pilot to own the haters.
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"I'm gonna find the commie block that known paedophile Joshua Moon lives in and bomb the shit out of him. His whore mother's gonna cry to the news of his fat exploded remains while I laugh like the joker and make her suck my dick and drink every last drop of my cum! He's a disloyal piece of shit and he has no children, and you know what? That broke dick mother fucker will never have any children cause he can't even get it up unless its some fucked up porn. The Ralphamale line is 2 babies going strong! NOW LETS GO WATCH MORE TRANNIES!"
 
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Coccxys said:
Literally everyone is doing a war crime. You basically cannot fight a war of roughly evenly matched sides without the gloves coning off. The whole point of the various war crime laws was so that after the fact they can prosecute the nominated bad guy (Russia) for something.
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That shit on the ground is just reality.
What the US is doing to whip up hatred for Russians and Russian cats is a war crime.

JambledUpWords said:
The sanctions aren’t going to have the effect people wish they did. Also, with how much these sanctions are screwing over the average Russian, it’s perfect propaganda to pretty much create more animosity
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He's got a point
 
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Just spitballin' and speculatin' -

What if provoking Russia to war was the point?

The US war propaganda machine was spinning up in 2016 to go to war in Syria, and it was pretty obvious that fighting Russia there was going to be part of the fun. That was cut short by Trump's election, which was treated as a catastrophe by the US government. The government then accelerated anti-Russian propaganda, accusing them of everything from power outages to having subverted the Office of the President itself. After failing to have the President removed for treason due to the laughably bad quality of their frame-up job, they later tried to have him removed again for exposing corruption in Ukraine.

The same officials involved in all of this have been behind what, to me, looks like bewilderingly stupid diplomacy in Ukraine. But the reality is, these people have been stoking conflict with Russia since at least 2014. Given how fast all these sanctions spun up, maybe cutting Russia out of their global cool kids' club is a much older goal, and they've been probing around for an opportunity to make doing so politically popular. Washington didn't just sanction Russia; they organized a total excision of Russians from participation in anything we have the slightest bit of control over. As we see, ordinary Americans are taking a hit. Our businesses are being disrupted, oil and gas are going up, and we're generally being made somewhat worse off. So they needed political capital for this, and what better than an "unprovoked" invasion of a "democracy" by a country that "interfered in our 2016 election?"

I don't really know why this would be their goal, but maybe this is what they wanted.
 
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