Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Official Ukraine account asking for foreign nationals to help fight
 
You're retarded and ignorant and this response is for the rest of the people reading this since you're too much of a dumbass to comprehend the answers.
No, but you seem to think Russia has a justification to invade the way it did. It does not.
Wrong. Ukraine joining NATO has been a red line for almost a decade at this point. Ukraine had a fraudulent election where a puppet, Zelensky, was installed to do the whims of the West and not the Ukrainian people. For the last 8 years Russians living in the Donbaus have been shelled by the Ukraine. Russian citizens were being shelled for 8 years. Any of those would be legetimate reasons.
I think you're romanticizing this war. This isn't about Russians fighting for their sovereignty or the self-victimization narrative the Russian media machine is pushing, the Russians try take Ukraine and see how the west reacts.
Putin doesn't want Ukraine. He'll do what he did in Georgia in 2008 or Kazakhstan a few months ago, go in, break their military, leave. At most the Eastern Donbaus regions get annexed or become their own "countries".
They have tucked their tail between their legs, like they probably predicted, at the threat of nuclear war, but I think the Russians did not foresee the impact of the economic sanctions and the backlash from the war...
You're a fucking idiot if you think Putin and Russia didn't have an idea or some sort of preparation for the sanctions coming. They told everyone already before this started that they have become self sufficient, as best they can, due to the decade or so of sanctions already placed on them.
Nope. I don't think Russia can win this. If Russia (and China) isolate against the globohomo, they will become shitholes and people will struggle to escape and romanticize the West.

In the mean time, the west will point at these shitholes and say "Look! Look what society without civilized ID chips and clot shots is like!" or whatever.
You don't think the place that has the largest manufacturing center in the world, that the entire world gets all its good from can hold out and make it on their own? How stupid are you!? The US doesn't even have the capability to get the type of manufacturing back to the required levels that would be needed if they stopped importing from China. It would take 5 year minimum and that's if a pro business leader was in charge which they aren't currently and I have doubts they will be soon. The climate change regulations make manufacturing on that level basically impossible.

And you think the West will outlast the people making their shit? Why are you so dumb?
But the end game of Russia is not to get Globohomo to fuck off, it's to test the West and see how much they can push before they get pushed back.
Incredibly incorrect. China + Russia have told you what their goal is. The West needs to fuck off and leave them alone and let them run their countries the way they want to run their countries. The people in charge of the West can't seem to let people do that for some strange reason. Stop caping for the bad guys. They don't need your help.
 
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I was afk for one and a half days. What happened since then?
Shit-flinging and bait posting in the thread, some realization that the fog of war will keep the thread from getting better until we get real information, and Z-man of Ukraine may or may not be in Poland (Russian media claim, Ukrainian media claims “NO U!”). Truth is somewhere in between I’m guessing…
 
Shit-flinging and bait posting in the thread, some realization that the fog of war will keep the thread from getting better until we get real information, and Z-man of Ukraine may or may not be in Poland (Russian media claim, Ukrainian media claims “NO U!”). Truth is somewhere in between I’m guessing…
You forgot the franchise wars are showing signs of kicking off. #PopeyesWillWin
 
The people in charge of the West can't seem to let people do that for some strange reason. Stop caring for the bad guys. They don't need your help.
They want to maintain and expand American hegemony over the rest of the world.

I've come to the sobering conclusion that the political class really does want power for the sake of having power like mustache-twirling cartoon villains. They'd like nothing more than to have total unopposed control over the planet and any country that immediately doesn't fall into line is a threat to that control.
 
Does anyone have an updated map that isn't minimizing russian gains? liveuamap is showing russians in the same place that they were a few days ago
 
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The head of Sparta Battalion, a(the) DNR militia was killed in action. According to someone in the fight they also suffered heavy losses while evacuating people through one of the corridors agreed during the negotiations for civilian evacuation:
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This is nothing short of cowardice. The Hohols agreed to a ceasefire to evacuate civilians, only 17 families evacuated before the pieces of shit ambushed them with heavy shelling. The Ukrainians deserve everything that's coming to them AND more.

This probably will be the last straw that will make Russia go all-in on Ukraine.
 
Incredibly incorrect. China + Russia have told you what their goal is. The West needs to fuck off and leave them alone and let them run their countries the way they want to run their countries. The people in charge of the West can't seem to let people do that for some strange reason. Stop caring for the bad guys. They don't need your help.
I wish the western elites would fuck off from everyone. CS Lewis described them perfectly:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
 
Wrong. Ukraine joining NATO has been a red line for almost a decade at this point. Ukraine had a fraudulent election where a puppet, Zelensky, was installed to do the whims of the West and not the Ukrainian people. For the last 8 years Russians living in the Donbaus have been shelled by the Ukraine. Russian citizens were being shelled for 8 years. Any of those would be legetimate reasons.
Ukraine wasn't even fucking eligible to join NATO, a major reason Russia annexed Crimea was to cause a border dispute issue that makes Ukraine ineligible to join, this is the exact same tactic Russia used on Georgia.
Putin doesn't want Ukraine. He'll do what he did in Georgia in 2008 or Kazakhstan a few months ago, go in, break their military, leave. At most the Eastern Donbaus regions get annexed or become their own "countries".
Flat out wrong, he has made it clear that he considers Ukrainians Russians, maybe he won't annex them, but the very least he's gonna do is turn Ukraine into a puppet state. Plus Kazakhstan wasn't really an invasion, it was helping them put down protesters because Kazakhstan is basically a puppet state at this point too.
Incredibly incorrect. China + Russia have told you what their goal is. The West needs to fuck off and leave them alone and let them run their countries the way they want to run their countries. The people in charge of the West can't seem to let people do that for some strange reason. Stop caring for the bad guys. They don't need your help.
So if Ukraine wants to join NATO or the EU, or whatever, let them, it's their country after all. Russia needs to fuck off and leave them alone and let it run it's country the way they want to run their country.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Globohomo, I don't want NATO to win, but Putin simps can fuck off because he isn't fighting Globohomo, he's fighting for his own blend of it.
 
Does anyone have an updated map that isn't minimizing russian gains? liveuamap is showing russians in the same place that they were a few days ago
For some bizarre reason, the most reasonable map I have discovered is this Finnish one. It has a dubious claim on the Gostomel Airport and Bucha (nobody really has got any idea what the fuck is going on there), but the rest of it seems reasonable. Most of the text has English translations:
Almost all the other maps are pro either side.
 
To be fair, Putin just needs to show pics of the Azov battalion and their swastikas and say "This is who is attacking our people". The western libtard "muh next Hitler" argument doesn't make any sense when the Ukranians have literal Nazi battalions.
The Azov Batallion are an irregular unit of the Ukrainian armed forces operating on similar lines as The Wagner Group. Those of a western liberal disposition may wince at how these organisations operate, but it’s a feature of Slav military history. In the collapse of Yugoslavia similar cadres in Serbia and Croatia carried out atrocities and once the shitstorm was over were incorporated into regular armed forces.

In WW2, Hitler created the Bosnian Muslim SS, and Ukrainians were enthusiastic members of SS killing units.

You only have to witness the hatred between Partizan Belgrade and RSB to know there’s a deep vein of self destruction within Slavic and Russo culture.
 
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