Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Of the many distortions manufactured by Russian President Vladimir Putin to justify Russia’s assault on Ukraine, perhaps the most bizarre is his claim that the action was taken to “denazify” the country and its leadership. In making his case for entering his neighbor’s territory with armored tanks and fighter jets, Putin has stated that the move was undertaken “to protect people” who have been “subjected to bullying and genocide,” and that Russia “will strive for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.”

On its face, Putin’s smear is absurd, not least because Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is Jewish and has said that members of his family were killed during World War II. There is also no evidence of recent mass killings or ethnic purges taking place in Ukraine. Moreover, labeling enemies Nazis is a common political ploy in Russia, especially from a leader who favors disinformation campaigns and wants to stir up feelings of national vengeance against a WWII foe to justify conquest.
But even though Putin is engaging in propaganda, it’s also true that Ukraine has a genuine Nazi problem — both past and present. Putin’s destructive actions — among them the devastation of Jewish communities — make clear that he’s lying when he says his goal is to ensure anyone’s welfare. But important as it is to defend the yellow-and-blue flag against the Kremlin’s brutal aggression, it would be a dangerous oversight to deny Ukraine’s antisemitic history and collaboration with Hitler’s Nazis, as well as the latter-day embrace of neo-Nazi factions in some quarters.
On the eve of World War II, Ukraine was home to one the largest Jewish communities in Europe, with estimates as high as 2.7 million, a remarkable number considering the territory’s long record of antisemitism and pogroms. By the end, more than half would perish. When German troops took control of Kyiv in 1941, they were welcomed by “Heil Hitler” banners. Soon after, nearly 34,000 Jews — along with Roma and other “undesirables” — were rounded up and marched to fields outside the city on the pretext of resettlement only to be massacred in what became known as the “Holocaust by bullets.”
The Babyn Yar ravine continued to fill up as a mass grave for two years. With as many as 100,000 murdered there, it became one of the largest single killing sites of the Holocaust outside of Auschwitz and other death camps. Researchers have noted the key role locals played in fulfilling Nazi kill orders at the site

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Nowadays, Ukraine counts between 56,000 to 140,000 Jews, who enjoy freedoms and protections never imagined by their grandparents. That includes an updated law passed last month criminalizing antisemitic acts. Unfortunately, the law was intended to address a pronounced uptick in public displays of bigotry, including swastika-laden vandalism of synagogues and Jewish memorials, and eerie marches in Kyiv and other cities that celebrated the Waffen SS.
In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote.
Another frequent honoree is Roman Shukhevych, revered as a Ukrainian freedom fighter but also the leader of a feared Nazi auxiliary police unit that the Forward notes was “responsible for butchering thousands of Jews and … Poles.” Statues have also been raised for Yaroslav Stetsko, a one-time chair of the OUN, who wrote “I insist on the extermination of the Jews in Ukraine.”
Far-right groups have also gained political currency in the past decade, none more chilling than Svoboda (formerly the Social National Party of Ukraine), whose leader claimed the country was controlled by a “Muscovite-Jewish mafia” and whose deputy used an antisemitic slur to describe Ukrainian-born Jewish actor Mila Kunis. Svoboda has sent several members to Ukraine’s Parliament, including one who called the Holocaust a “bright period” in human history, according to Foreign Policy.
Just as disturbing, neo-Nazis are part of some of Ukraine’s growing ranks of volunteer battalions. They are battle-hardened after waging some of the toughest street fighting against Moscow-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine following Putin’s Crimean invasion in 2014. One is the Azov Battalion, founded by an avowed white supremacist who claimed Ukraine’s national purpose was to rid the country of Jews and other inferior races. In 2018, the U.S. Congress stipulated that its aid to Ukraine couldn’t be used “to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.” Even so, Azov is now an official member of the Ukraine National Guard.
For sure, none of this disturbing context justifies the misery that has befallen Ukrainians over the past several weeks — and it’s unlikely that Putin was motivated by any of it when he launched his invasion. Indeed, thanks to Putin, Jews living in Odessa, Kharkiv and other eastern cities are under extreme duress. While many have taken refuge in local synagogues and Jewish centers, others have fled to foreign countries, including Israel, which has urged all Jews to leave Ukraine.
My own grandparents themselves had to flee western Ukraine to escape persecution, and it is tragic to see this cycle continue. If the country devolves into chaos and insurgency, Jews could once again be at risk from some of their fellow citizens. Not acknowledging this threat means that little is being done to guard against it.
But even if some elements of the country have been entangled with one of history’s most loathsome movements, standing with Ukraine is without doubt the honorable posture to take in this drama. Right now, every day that Putin ratchets up his assault against the Ukrainian people with scorched-earth zeal, it’s hard not to see who truly deserves the N-word.
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But which side has the shekels?
 
JambledUpWords said:
If gas ever gets up to $10 here because politicians wanted to virtue signal, they’ll have to deal with revolts on their own turf. Would absolutely be political suicide, and no amount of “sacrifice your wallet for Ukraine” will soothe people.
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It's more that they want to spike the price of gas, and the virtue signal is the excuse to do it.
 
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InabaTewi said:
Is there a thread that only has images/videos of the war? I'm tired of scrolling through pages and pages of sperging.
What can I say, I'm a simple man, I like seeing shit blow up.
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The first couple days were the most intense and stuff since then haven't been as crazy for the most part, at least in terms of what has been filmed. I'm not really sure why, it might be because many more civilians who would have filmed stuff have left now or maybe the russians are being more careful.
Maybe have a look at /k/ on 4chan as well
 
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Getting tard comed said:
Well.. the lack of pro LGBT support is one reason people assume they are agaisnt globohomo. China refusing the "ruling elite" to move into China and start "advising" then is another. Both Russia and China continually taking shots publicly at globohomo through press statements. The global times, which is literally the CCPs mouth piece, is continually taking shots at America and Europe for literally everything.

But mostly it's because Russia and China are pro nationalist countries with Xi and Putin both criticizing and attacking the global hegemony that exists now and do not think the current system is a good one. I don't think anyone is under any belief that either of them want to make a happy world for everyone. They most likely just don't want to be the world's bitches like every other country is to the global elite.

Read the globaltimes for China. There are speeches in this thread Putin has given critiquing globohomo.
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How come the United States isn't pushing back hard against global homo like how hard Russia and China are kicking back?

This is a country where you had a sheriff tell a public assembly he wasn't going to enforce a gun-ban because he was afraid he was going to get killed should he do so. And because he had a kid coming, he was moving out-of-state. Just as how you had an entire U.S. army battalion or regiment being pushed back, they literally we're walking back, by angry hill-billies because they didn't want the government to take land unlawfully without a single shot fired. Hill-billies who pushed back the world's greatest military in the modern era. Again without a shot fired.

The country that practically founded the internet we know today, not just counting the social media and the windows OS most people are using now.

Alright to my point: how come Americans aren't taking shots against Globohomo strongly even though we're just as nationalistic, in red states at least, like China and Russia?

Also yea your right China and Russia just want to be Caesars of the world. they don't want to share until one of them becomes Pompei.
 
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Nichole Phelps said:
When a nation state perceives an existential threat all notions of decency fly out of the window and the citizenry always bear the brunt of it.
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Don't give me this shit, this is exactly what they've been doing with Donbass for the last 8 years.

Nichole Phelps said:
Please don't demonise the Ukies too much
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I don't need to, they prove to be scum of the earth time after time themselves. I had some faint hope they will let people evacuate from Mariupol since it was the goal of those negotiations and what? Zero fucks. They didn't even let them to go to the other side where russian forces and separatists are.
 
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MushroomLandTV said:
Vaush has to be a glowie, there's no fucking way.
How can somebody be so fucking retarded, and also hated by everyone on the political compass while at the same time being immune to being cancelled despite his "questionable" views?
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Much like Hasan, he is after money and to inflate his ego. He purposely says controversial things to get clicks.
Maybe he is slowly buying into his own bullshit.
 
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Prester John said:
So who's winning?
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Who else do you think?

The Amish?

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Neigh said:
Much like Hasan, he is after money and to inflate his ego. He purposely says controversial things to get clicks.
Maybe he is slowly buying into his own bullshit.
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Putting "Anarcho" in front of everything is like when commies used to put "People's" in front of everything. Anarcho is just for the edgy young (30+ and still living in mom's basement) commies.
 
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Smolrolls said:
Lead up question:
How come the United States isn't pushing back hard against global homo like how hard Russia and China are kicking back?

This is a country where you had a sheriff tell a public assembly he wasn't going to enforce a gun-ban because he was afraid he was going to get killed should he do so. And because he had a kid coming, he was moving out-of-state. Just as how you had an entire U.S. army battalion or regiment being pushed back, they literally we're walking back, by angry hill-billies because they didn't want the government to take land unlawfully without a single shot fired. Hill-billies who pushed back the world's greatest military in the modern era. Again without a shot fired.

The country that practically founded the internet we know today, not just counting the social media and the windows OS most people are using now.
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Because while the people who live in the US are agaisnt globohomo the people who run the US(that foreign elite that wanted to move to China but got told GTFO) are the ones pushing for globohomo around the world. Those pride flags being flown at US embassies around the world wasn't done due to external pressure.
 
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