Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[YourFriendlyLurker]

Vova met several hot chicks today. Or not, because it seems that it was chroma key.

 

[Toasted Midnights in June]

Is this a good summary or copy pasta of Ukrainian neoliberal propaganda sold to westerners so far?

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• Spetznaz paratroopers abandoned by air support, corner and massacred by Ukies.
• VAL Experimental Rifle taken as trophy (actually an airsoft imitation).
• Russian Paratroopers drowning in freezing water.
• The war being real in the first place (Countless videos of urban conflicts surrounded by unphased civilians and normal traffic. Film crew can sometimes be heard in background).
• While the whole world is busy fighting the Russians, the fugitive advisor to Vladmir Putin, known only as Yuri, has been using his Mind Control Technology to establish a secret army of his own. A group of his Initiatives have taken control of Alcatraz Island in San Francisco and they're constructed some sort of device there.

 

[EyeGuy]

It helps that Israel has immigrants from both countries so it's not politically smart to have any outright government opinion of the war, plus Biden's America almost certainely makes Israel look for other potential allies so it won't get betrayed like the Ukrainians did.

It doesn't help that our current PM is just as egomaniacal as the last one but much less talented, and feels the need to stick his long nose into other people's yards.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

This is why Americans should stay out of global politics.

Wrong. Ukraine joining NATO has been a red line for almost a decade at this point. Ukraine had a fraudulent election where a puppet, Zelensky, was installed to do the whims of the West and not the Ukrainian people. For the last 8 years Russians living in the Donbaus have been shelled by the Ukraine. Russian citizens were being shelled for 8 years. Any of those would be legetimate reasons.

Right, so a country that has been harassed for 8 years takes a pro West stance. Gee I wonder why. Must be Western election fraud! Das rite!

I can tell you're a western 'summer child' cause you gobble up the russian propaganda one semen at a time.

Putin doesn't want Ukraine. He'll do what he did in Georgia in 2008 or Kazakhstan a few months ago, go in, break their military, leave. At most the Eastern Donbaus regions get annexed or become their own "countries".

Probably gonna split it.

The remaining Ukraine will be pro West/Nato/EU than any 'puppet president', Western propaganda and bullshit ever could.

You're a fucking idiot if you think Putin and Russia didn't have an idea or some sort of preparation for the sanctions coming. They told everyone already before this started that they have become self sufficient, as best they can, due to the decade or so of sanctions already placed on them.

I didn't say he doesn't have an idea, I say he grossly underestimated the impact and negative press.

You don't think the place that has the largest manufacturing center in the world, that the entire world gets all its good from can hold out and make it on their own? How stupid are you!? The US doesn't even have the capability to get the type of manufacturing back to the required levels that would be needed if they stopped importing from China. It would take 5 year minimum and that's if a pro business leader was in charge which they aren't currently and I have doubts they will be soon. The climate change regulations make manufacturing on that level basically impossible. And you think the West will outlast the people making their shit? Why are you so dumb?

Oh no what will the west do without it's easily available Funko-Pops?

The thing is, right. China won't become a shithole without the West; China IS a shithole, and money from the west lets it bandage-fix its problems and might eventually collapse.

China + Russia have told you what their goal is. The West needs to fuck off and leave them alone and let them run their countries the way they want to run their countries. The people in charge of the West can't seem to let people do that for some strange reason. Stop caping for the bad guys. They don't need your help.

Oh gee wee. Poor China + Russia minding their own business in the territory/agression zones of neighboring countries when the wee ol' western bully comes to tell them how to run their countries! If only the West (and nearby countries enforcing their already established borders) would stop bullying these superpowers!

Ok listen. For those who have not been bordering with/nearby Russia, this is how it works. Russia finds a small country to bully. The propaganda machine makes up a "this was our land/they are bullying nazis/the west put up a puppet president" then they bully the country rentlessly. After a while, they just decide the territory of this country was theirs all along and that they have every right to take it.

Sad. Heck, I'd even accept if you said that Russia is Globohomo's lapdog to scare Sweden/Finland/Ukraine into joining Nato/EU/complying. But Russian cum guzzlers I will not stand.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Imagine writing 'a stateless United States' and thinking your ideas should be taken seriously

Some Youtubers that I watched roughly a month ago, made a great point about 20 to 30 years from now, people who grew up watching Vausch and Fuentes and Molymeme and Styx and Sargon will be in the halls of Congress or even in the White House.

Vausch iirc wants to run for politicial office and AOC will look like a wise abuela by then.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Reading materials included in Ukrainian MRE's.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Slavs and Slavs are natural enemies.

 

[Lee Crabb]

New Vaush hot take.
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Vaush, you didling dumbass! France already tried this (a non hierarchical egalitarian army) at the start of the 1st Republic in 1792 and it was an utter disaster.

 

[Dave_Ph]

And people think we're going to vote our way out of this in the US.
Or even have an election.

 

[Burt Offerings]

New Vaush hot take.
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>He just invented the NAP again

Fuck me dead, vaush is a special individual. Every single thing I see come from that man is worse than the last, either in quality or in morality. Like, legitimately, is he ok

 

[bebopsingh]

"Dirty disgusting unvaccinated fucks are gonna kill us all!"

"Hey everyone! Lets have a nuclear war with Russia because!"

How times have changed

 

[Matt Damon]

And people think we're going to vote our way out of this in the US.
Or even have an election.

In this case, elections truly are irrelevant.

American maximally-interventionist foreign policy is functionally identical between parties.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Vaush, you didling dumbass! France already tried this (a non hierarchical egalitarian army) at the start of the 1st Republic in 1792 and it was an utter disaster.

People dont have memories that go past a few months. "Protests are meant to meant to be inconvenient, so arson, looting and murder is OK." "NOOOOOOOOOO! ANYONE HONKING SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND EXECUTED! WHY ARENT THEY DELIVERING MY MARVEL DILDOS!?"

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

What, scared you'll be next?

Please, please attempt it. Please, God, try it.

 

[incelistan]

New Vaush hot take.
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Vaush is probably shitposting here, but isn't he basically describing what would happen if African failed states formed a coalition? Sounds like Wakanda IRL.

 

[Hackallier]

New Babylon Bee meme

https://babylonbee.com/news/uyghurs-in-chinese-concentration-camps-fly-ukrainian-flag-so-people-will-pay-attention-to-them

 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

Russia's #1 torrent tracker is officially unblocked. It's habbening.

(The really important part isn't the blocking itself, it's the effect on findom cucks who were trained to pay for media "because it's the right thing to doooooo".)

There's also a rumor of not enforcing copyright on products which have left the market (Putin has been Microsoft's enforcer for over a decade, sending goons after village computer repair technicians who reinstalled Windows XP on granny's thirdhand laptop), first denied, then repeated. Exciting times. (A shame it took a war special operation.)

"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem"
Well in this case, piracy is the only solution when you pull out of the country due to the great Globohomo Boycott of 2022.
I will fight tooth and nail to support my russian torrent friends.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Russia: 8 Victories (Snake Island, Kherson, Chernobyl, Antonov Airport, Ivankiv, Melitopol, and Berdiansk)
Ukraine: 2 Victories (Kruty and Vasylkiv)
However, a bunch of battles are ongoing, the Ukrainians aren't going anywhere, however the Russians are having slow advances. The situation is kinda shitty for both sides despite Russia's victories.

I think it's going to be a Russian pyrrhic victory. Putin was planning on a quick and decisive takeover like he got in 2014. He will undoubtedly win a war of attrition, but in doing so he has:

-killed white civilians on camera.
-gotten thousands of his troops killed
-already has an anti-war movement in his own country. He didn't have a justification like 9/11, and Ukrainians are not that different from Russians, so they can't just be dismissed as terrorist-loving pinkos.
-gotten kicked out of SWIFT, collapsed the Ruble, and shocked the energy market.
-done this in the spring, giving the US and its oil-producing allies like Norway and Canada time to increase production before winter to make it bearable.
-re-invigorated NATO at a time when enthusiasm was waning because globalization had people thinking war was obsolete.
-the Americans who sympathized with Putin because he was friends with Trump haven't formed a coherent isolationist or anti-Ukraine movement (there will be no US intervention, but that's out of a desire to not go nuclear, not a desire to let Russia have Ukraine).

Tldr Putin is speedrunning the Iraq War, and the Russian economy cannot absorb the impact like the US economy did.

The War on Terror cost $8 trillion.
Russia only has about $1.7 trillion, much of it now inaccessible.

I want to support Putin because he's against Globochomo. But he's playing right into their hand.

 

[raisinlove]

If Russia loses, you know that the Jews are going rebuild the destroyed Ukraine as a leftist utopia of gender progression. Israel and nato will do everything they can to erase whiteness and Westernism from the country. They may even make it a new rapefugee haven as Jews love nothing more than ((cosmopolitanization)) and they will hold efforts to rebuild over it.

Regardless of outcome, there will never be a sovereign Ukraine run by its own people again

 

[The Ugly One]

Oh gee wee. Poor China + Russia minding their own business in the territory/agression zones of neighboring countries when the wee ol' western bully comes to tell them how to run their countries! If only the West (and nearby countries enforcing their already established borders) would stop bullying these superpowers!

Oh gee wee. Poor USA minding its own business in one color revolution after another. If only the Russian government would stop bullying other countries just because Washington financed, armed, and supported a government overthrow there (and is currently backing similar elements within Russia itself).

-already has an anti-war movement in his own country. He didn't have a justification like 9/11, and Ukrainians are not that different from Russians, so they can't just be dismissed as terrorist-loving pinkos.

Wouldn't be surprised if the USA is behind this, too. If Navalny is in power in Russia within three years, I will concede that Washington's spooks are actually really smart, not really stupid.