Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Idk if this is true and it doesn't really matter. After winning the Cold War and defeating global communism, deciding to then sign treaties solemnly promising to go to nuclear war to defend the independence of new "allies" like Estonia, Albania, and North Macedonia ( :story: ) was fucking dumb. Like a drunk hooker going crazy with a stolen checkbook, except less responsible.
To be fair, the fall of the Soviet Union was so spectacular and so blatantly caused by the internal failings of communist dictatorship that it was easy to interpret as a divine mandate for America-led Liberal Democracy to take over the world and make Star Trek real. No wonder they were reckless, they thought they had neolib God on their side.

Is realism vs. self-righteousness a debate that goes all the way back to Machiavelli?
 
I'm pretty much a "true neutral" in this conflict, but the number of replies orgasming over the mistreatment and possible murder of a defenseless POW in this video make me fucking sick. He's just some fucking kid, for shit's sake. Genuinely MATI, and I'm not even unsympathetic to Ukraine.

at this point, and at so many others made itt about Geneva Convention being broken by both sides regularly now (as if it means anything anymore in the real world), I feel the need to quote Black Sails again as to the mentality that's taken hold of anyone that's taking an active part of this war:

Woodes Rogers: "You've given me good men to lead."
Cpt. Berringer: "There isn't a *good* man among them. Not anymore. Some of them may have been, before all this began. Some may be again, if they survive. Right now, though, *good* men are not what the moment requires. The time calls for dark men to do dark deeds. Don't be afraid to lead them to it."

doesn't come as any surprise that it's gripped the country tbh, if it managed to do so in the balkans in the 90s. the only surprise is as to how much quicker it happened this time around, because you have psychopaths on social media and from abroad encouraging it and politicians tacitly memoryholing and/or ignoring that of their side, even when presented with ample evidence of it becoming ubiquitous.
 
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There are two answers to this question.

1. US politics varies a lot from region to region and some regions don't feel the sting of globohomo much at all.
Tell that to people in mill towns where their decent manufacturing jobs got shipped to China/India and replaced with jobs at Wal-Mart, Dollar General, and McDonald's selling stuff they used to make.

Tell that to the people in coal country where mining jobs get cut every year because of regulations (they conveniently forget that automation allows mines to operate on skeleton crews now).

Tell that to the people in farming communities where every recession, more people sell their farms to big agribusiness. Then they watch the permanent Hispanic population of their town climb. Their kids leave for the city, while Mexican/Guatemalan families shit out 10 kids.

Tell that to all the people who live in communities hit by the opioid epidemic.

Globohomo is not just troons and fags in cities. It's genetically engineered crops with terminator gene. It's farm equipment that can't be worked on except by licensed mechanics. It's the FDA and EPA refusing to scrutinize atrazine to see if it's causing a mass decline in fertility, because they're all industry insiders. It's meatpacking plants hiring Somalis because they work for peanuts.

The whole point of Globohomo is to destroy the countryside and replace it with one homogeneous megapolis.
 
Two documentaries about Ukraine disappeared from Netflix but luckily they're up on Rumble now
The 2nd one is dry until about the 40 minute mark, then we get to see Hillary Biden, Soros, and McCain.. Isn't that a nice pick of Hillary standing right next to Soros.
What was done in Ukraine is incredibly similar to what we saw here last summer. If you want to see the 2019 documentary
"Revealing Ukraine" the link is here.. You can also find "Ukraine on Fire" a 2016 documentary on Ukraine's US sponsored revolution on Rumble. Hey that looks just like our 2020.

Spoiler. Putin isn't crazy

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It's a pretty bad cost when if thought it'd be Crimea 2.0 like Putin almost certainly did. Especially when you add in the wounded, the destroyed equipment, and the economic damage. That's assuming he doesn't end up with an ongoing insurgency once the army's defeated.

And that's all with Ukraine only being partially prepared for a war with limited external help.
Partially prepared? Ukraine had 200.000 mobilized professional soldiers at the start of the war, has been receiving western weapons for eight years, and has a much larger force of reservists, paramilitaries, and militias. What would a fully prepared Ukraine look like? Ten million soldiers at arms?
 
I'm pretty much a "true neutral" in this conflict, but the number of replies orgasming over the mistreatment and possible murder of a defenseless POW in this video make me fucking sick. He's just some fucking kid, for shit's sake. Genuinely MATI, and I'm not even unsympathetic to Ukraine.

Shouldnt have been there. People need to stop pretending theres rules or moral ways for destroying peoples livelihoods and killing their families.
 
My favorite part of this thread has got to be folks making foolishness/dishonest claims and just getting fucking torn apart by people that actually know some stuff. It's glorious.
There is a memorial to the Niños Héroes, military cadets that were killed during the Battle of Chapultepec, one of the last battles of the Mexican-American War, in the zocalo (town square) of Mexico City. Juan Escutia leapt from Chapultepec Castle wrapped in the Mexican flag to prevent it from being taken by the US Army; some of the dead cadets were as young as 10. I learned this while living in Mexico City. While there I had a friend from France who told me the French invasion of Mexico and the installation of a Hapsburg as monarch of the Second Mexican Empire by Napoleon III was news to her; she said France's shady past was downplayed in her school. Seems like countries don't like teaching the shameful parts of their history so I understand it. People shouldn't get butthurt about it, learning and education is a lifelong process.
 
I'm really sorry if this is late, but my boomer dad just posted it on Facebook. About 70 pages behind.
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Bald and Bankrupt is a British youtuber who spends his time going around shitholes, mostly Soviet shitholes. He speaks Russian and has a huge love of everything Soviet so he has a lot of content that is either directly or tangentially related to what we're seeing here. He has a lot of Ukraine content where he wanders around trying to find things to see and chats to locals, getting some interesting insights.

Many of you will have seen his stuff already, but for those who haven't here are a few choice vids of his related to conflict in Ukraine...

Here he is wandering around Ukraine the day before the invasion, asking people if they think they are going to be invaded. The answers may surprise you.

Here he is living the whole refugee experience as he tries to get out of post-invasion Ukraine.

Here he is a year ago visiting battle sites from the Dombass conflict and talking to the civilians there.

There are many more but I don't want to shit up the thread too much. If you want to see more you should rate this post informative or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.


Bald and Bankrupt and his buddy Harald Baldr, the Hungarian posing as a Norwegian, are a pair of fakes. A pair of beautiful, no shits given, let's invade all their countries, kind of fakes. They aren't bad people. But they are out for themselves, and they have made a go of it with their millions of subs on youtube only going up every year. They are rootless cosompolitans (quite literally in Bald's case), and live out of a suitcase, perusing the cheap air tickets the way a stockbroker peruses the FT.

They are selfish bastards. Living the high life a lot of us wish we could live. Well, we'd probably prefer to have a trad-wife and a half-decent job, buy hey-ho, needs must. So would they probably. Not bad looking blokes, not a bad amount of charm, not a small amount of money in their bank accounts, but it still can't quite land them those sweet Shiksas that they so desire. When the social contract is broken and all that.

Who am I kidding, they are just a craven pair of bastards that want to fuck their way around half the world paid for by noobs and simps and incels who buy in to not just their ethos, but their whole pyramid scheme top-down marketing scam of "And so can you, TOO!". Ages old scheme. Never gets old. Got to admire them for putting a new tint on that particular grift. They did what Roosh V wishes he could have done. Now look at him. Got all religious. He's a better writer and even a better thinker, but he doesn't have the 'day to days' kind of gentle charisma it needs for that kind of stuff. Whoops, I just sperged all over my shirt.

Bald and Bankrupt is pretty honest, there's a video of him where he admits to going to the dark side after giving a girl a lift and she said she couldn't feed her family. So he offered her a fiver for a blowie and she took it! Very romantic. This is what I want from my travel executives.

But those faggots at reddit are arrse mad they can't get to exploit EE QT3.14's Amirite?

I like Harald more than Bald because at least he pretends to give a fuck. They are both degenerates, but they aren't the worst of humanity. Anyone dumping on them is just a moral fag and hypocrite.

Ben is actually jewish and lives in Brighton when he's at home (which isn't often). He had a couple of aliases at the Roosh V forum (and so did Harald). You can find them if you dig deep enough. But I won't dox their already public info more than that. Not guys you would trust as a friend. But hardly beasts either. You make your own mind up.
 
Bald and Bankrupt and his buddy Harald Baldr, the Hungarian posing as a Norwegian, are a pair of fakes. A pair of beautiful, no shits given, let's invade all their countries, kind of fakes. They aren't bad people. But they are out for themselves, and they have made a go of it with their millions of subs on youtube only going up every year. They are rootless cosompolitans (quite literally in Bald's case), and live out of a suitcase, perusing the cheap air tickets the way a stockbroker peruses the FT.

They are selfish bastards. Living the high life a lot of us wish we could live. Well, we'd probably prefer to have a trad-wife and a half-decent job, buy hey-ho, needs must. So would they probably. Not bad looking blokes, not a bad amount of charm, not a small amount of money in their bank accounts, but it still can't quite land them those sweet Shiksas that they so desire. When the social contract is broken and all that.

Who am I kidding, they are just a craven pair of bastards that want to fuck their way around half the world paid for by noobs and simps and incels who buy in to not just their ethos, but their whole pyramid scheme top-down marketing scam of "And so can you, TOO!". Ages old scheme. Never gets old. Got to admire them for putting a new tint on that particular grift. They did what Roosh V wishes he could have done. Now look at him. Got all religious. He's a better writer and even a better thinker, but he doesn't have the 'day to days' kind of gentle charisma it needs for that kind of stuff. Whoops, I just sperged all over my shirt.

Bald and Bankrupt is pretty honest, there's a video of him where he admits to going to the dark side after giving a girl a lift and she said she couldn't feed her family. So he offered her a fiver for a blowie and she took it! Very romantic. This is what I want from my travel executives.

But those faggots at reddit are arrse mad they can't get to exploit EE QT3.14's Amirite?

I like Harald more than Bald because at least he pretends to give a fuck. They are both degenerates, but they aren't the worst of humanity. Anyone dumping on them is just a moral fag and hypocrite.

Ben is actually jewish and lives in Brighton when he's at home (which isn't often). He had a couple of aliases at the Roosh V forum (and so did Harald). You can find them if you dig deep enough. But I won't dox their already public info more than that. Not guys you would trust as a friend. But hardly beasts either. You make your own mind up.
You write all this shit and don't want to provide a dox? Gay.
 
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