Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Rezza]

Apparently some VDV got dropped off near Mykolaiv. The VDV continue their failure streak.

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Has the VDV actually achieved something in this war? All I heard were just failures upon failures

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Ukraine was left with a tough decision, but not an impossible one.

They could have amputated and ceded the disputed Crimean lands to Russia and joined NATO, ensuring they would lose no further. Like an amputation of the gangrenous flesh.

Or, they could have started sucking up to Russia, in hopes of a favorable relationship.

They chose neither option, and this was the outcome. Was Russia morally correct for invading? No, but the Ukraine knew the position they were in, and refused to make the tough decision that would have ensured the safety and independence of their country. They couldn't do so through their own military might, so it is what it is.

I don't feel happy for the Russians, and I feel sorry for the Ukrainians going through this, but what else did they think was going to happen? It was always just a matter of when, not if.

They didn't choose, globoZio/AIPAC chose for them, because Russia is one of the only countries that is actively preventing them from doing to Iran what they did to Iraq.

 

[MG-34]

Apparently some VDV got dropped off near Mykolaiv. The VDV continue their failure streak.

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Man what the fuck is up with the Russian military? They might as well save the gas and just shoot them for the Ukrainians at the FOB.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

These guys just are not having a good war. Did one of them fuck putins wife or some shit and they're getting stuck with the shit jobs because of it?

I'm having a harder and harder time believing these guys aren't just being deliberately dropped to their deaths, seeing them all gored like that in the middle of that wasteland. really makes me think of that line from The Pacific's mortar practice:

"WHAT HAPPENED, PUTIN? DID BORIS FUCK YOUR WIFE?! DID SERGEI NOT GIVE YOU A GOOD ENOUGH BJ, HUH?! YOU LANDED OUTSIDE THE CORRECTION!!"

 

[draggs]

So was there a big successful Ukrainian counterattack near Kharkov, around Staryi Saltiv, today or what? I keep seeing references to it and video of an alleged BTFO Russian column on twatter but I dunno

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Apparently some VDV got dropped off near Mykolaiv. The VDV continue their failure streak.

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All right, in all seriousess, is this just a streak of bad luck or why are they throwing them in the middle of nowhere without any support?

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Has the VDV actually achieved something in this war? All I heard were just failures upon failures

They might have captured the Kyiv airport at the start of the war, but even then we don't know if they actually did or that they got wiped out and the armor support that was coming to them arrived a few hours after they got wiped out captured it.

 

[дядя Боря]

Man what the fuck is up with the Russian military? They might as well save the gas and just shoot them for the Ukrainians at the FOB.

Uks will run out of bullets eventually, that strategy has been tried before

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Has the VDV actually achieved something in this war? All I heard were just failures upon failures

It is almost like they are not trained

Look at how they died, huddled together and scared. There Fighting vehicles unused

What the fuck?

 

[Mr Cuddles]

I just don't see anything that would make this happen. If anything, I'd argue external pressure is likely to make the west double-down on its increasing authoritarianism.

They might but it would hasten their downfall. When the Germans invaded in 1941 it pretty much put a halt to Stalin's purges and as the war got more bleak the more power and trust he bestowed to his generals. The reverse is also true for Hitler. When it was clear there was Warsaw vs NATO block the Soviets did their best to try "to keep up" with the NATO and the western governments generally tried to keep stupid shit and corruption to a minimum.

So yea they could double down, but considering what they are doing makes each individual country weaker they would just be handing over more power to the eastern coalition.

 

[verissimus]

I can't figure out if pro-Ukraine twitter or pro-Russia twitter is crazier.

How is there even a pro-Russia twitter? Wouldn't those users have been banned?

 

[Saleh]

Has the VDV actually achieved something in this war? All I heard were just failures upon failures

Being used as experiments with the intention of imitating NATO strategy and tactics.

The Russians are slowly coming to the realization that they don't have the necessary tech or experience to do this so they're now starting to use their old and battle tested soviet tactics and strategy.

 

[дядя Боря]

They might have captured the Kyiv airport at the start of the war, but even then we don't know if they actually did or that they got wiped out and the armor support that was coming to them arrived a few hours after they got wiped out captured it.

there is more than one, they wanted the one that could land heavy transports, the fight for it went on from the first day.

 

[b0x]

Gymnastics federation bans Russian and Belarusian athletes​

• The ban means Russian and Belarusian athletes will not be allowed to compete in the Acrobatic Gymnastics World Championships that begin next week.
• Last week, the gymnastics federation banned Russian and Belarusian flags from being displayed and canceled events that were scheduled to take place in the countries.

https://www.axios.com/gymnastics-ban-russia-belarus-7edf513c-61bb-4d1b-bfc5-f4c083f482e0.html

Visa, Mastercard Grant Zelensky's Request, Ban All Operations in Russia​

Visa will work with its clients and partners in Russia to immediately cease all transaction over the coming days, and Visa cards issued outside of Russia will no longer work inside the country, according to the statement.

https://www.newsweek.com/visa-mastercard-grant-zelenskys-request-ban-all-operations-russia-1685247

Luxury Brands halt sales in Russia​

A number of entities atop the luxury totem pole joined a growing list late this week, with Burberry, Hermès, Chanel, Cartier owner Richemont, LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton, and Kering revealing that they are temporarily closing up shops and halting e-commerce sales, with many making nearly identical – and thoroughly diplomatic – statements about “the current situation” and vowing to support their local teams, without going into much detail potentially in order to avoid burning bridges with Russian spenders.

https://www.thefashionlaw.com/luxury-brands-halt-operations-in-russia-citing-concern-over-current-situation/

Russia and Belarus banned from holding world chess events,​

FIDE, the Russian-dominated world governing body of chess, took the momentous step to take action against both countries at an emergency meeting of its FIDE Council held today. It follows the international outcry over Russia's invasion of Ukraine which FIDE responded to initially by stripped Moscow of the 190-nation Chess Olympiad, which was due to take place in July.

https://chess24.com/en/read/news/fide-bans-russia-from-holding-chess-events

Russia, Belarus banned from The World Games 2022 in Birmingham​

The World Games 2022, which takes place from July 7-17, is organized with the support of the International Olympic Committee. Officials said the decision is in keeping with the International Olympic Committee’s Executive Board recommendation Monday morning.

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/russia-belarus-world-games-ban/39263179#

Basketball: Russia banned from playing in women’s World Cup being held in Australia​

Russia has been banned from competing in any international basketball competitions and removed from the draw for the 12-team World Cup being held in Sydney in September.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/basketball/basketball-russia-will-be-replaced-in-the-womens-world-cup-being-held-in-australia/news-story/b57212be71d309e86e306300b80d7286

Hockey hits Russia in collective soul with ban from international events​

At an IIHF meeting Monday in which Russian delegate Pavel Bure was asked not to join, delegates overwhelmingly voted to distance themselves and the international game from Putin’s war machine.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/golden-knights-sign-ben-hutton-to-two-year-extension/

 

[MrJokerRager]

Apparently some VDV got dropped off near Mykolaiv. The VDV continue their failure streak.

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The US military is currently in its most demoralized state not seen since the first two years of the Civil War.

And these lot are fucking up harder lol.

The question for the Russians are that are they learning from these fuckups.

Or this whole thing is another psyop.

 

[MG-34]

Has the VDV actually achieved something in this war? All I heard were just failures upon failures

I'm actually wondering the the US and other countries might seriously look at Air assault/Airborne forces the way we looked at Battleships post WW2 after this clownshow. I'm really looking forward to see if the expected Russian Naval infantry can do something or if they are gonna end up dying in droves too.

 

[No. 7 cat]

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Ukies are doing okay shooting down RF craft, which should be the case, given how much of that gear they have been given. Stingers were a great equaliser in Afghanistan.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Being used as experiments with the intention of imitating NATO strategy and tactics.

The Russians are slowly coming to the realization that they don't have the necessary tech or experience to do this so they're now starting to use their old and battle tested soviet tactics and strategy.

Massed artillery, frontal assaults with tanks in front, Sabatouers behind enemy lines.....

Maneuvers second, artillery first.

That is the only way Russia knows how to fight because Russia still doesn't understand supply chains behind a spearhead.

 

[Local Fed]

I'm really sorry if this is late, but my boomer dad just posted it on Facebook.

Appreciate this man while he's still around. Semper fi, boomer shitposter.

 

[Octavia]

Man its honestly so fucked that Visa and Mastercard can just suddenly decide your accounts are null and void in certain countries. Going cashless is a massive mistake.