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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Probably confirmed, one of russian generals is dead.

Does Russia even have a functional Navy?

Define "functional". They can sail, but fi they can do anything more is not so sure.

They have one old as shit carrier (Admiral Kuznetsov), some smaller warships, bunch of also old submarines. Probably not a dig deal even for USCG.
 
The 'we are fighting nazis' line is nothing more than propaganda.
They can't even keep their propaganda straight. In this Pravda article (archive) from 2/22, they promise both denazification and decommunization.

In his long speech, in which he recognised the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, Putin sent a few clear messages to Ukrainian Nazis.
  • Russia refuses to take into account any moral grounds for the right of today's Ukraine to have its own statehood — its legitimacy was lost after the 2014 coup.
  • Putin is ready to liberate Ukraine: "If you want complete decommunization, you will get it."

Maybe decommunization isn't used literally in Russian? Maybe it's a generic term for purging and reordering a state? But I think the delegitimization of Ukraine is the important part. No matter what boogeyman they say exists in Ukraine, they're telling the Russian people it has no right to exist.
 
Maybe decommunization isn't used literally in Russian?
They make refference to decommunisation efforsts in some ex-Warsaw Pact and ex-SSR efforts to decomunize.

In Russia storyline Ukraine was founded by communists (Lenin, Stalin and Krustchov) and any decommunisation means that Ukraine should cease to exists.
 
No matter what boogeyman they say exists in Ukraine, they're telling the Russian people it has no right to exist.
Yes, that's all it boils down to.

Probably confirmed, one of russian generals is dead.



Define "functional". They can sail, but fi they can do anything more is not so sure.

They have one old as shit carrier (Admiral Kuznetsov), some smaller warships, bunch of also old submarines. Probably not a dig deal even for USCG.
VDV are considered the most badass soldiers, but they shat the bed pretty bad in this war by the sound of it, and now they've lost an entire general in combat. It's humiliating for Russian army, and probably Russia in its entirety. Should be a huge moral boost to Ukrainian fighters.
 
Honselty I do find it funny if it wasn't for the fact that Putin hates gays. I'm pretty sure wokies would be defending the guy. Also I think the U.S media also trieds to portray Russia as right wing. Even through its not
It has nothing to do with hating Gays, the Ukraine is super fucking "Homophobic" as they don't have Faggot Marriage, and 87% of Ukraine Citizens think that Gays shouldn't be allowed to Marry, the Establishment portrays Putin as badman so all the Blue Checkmarks and Redditor Sheeps say "PUTIN MAN BAD"

If this weren't making the "Liberal" West look like a bunch of incompetent, useless faggots nobody would actually give one red shit. Example...the last time Putin annexed parts of Ukraine.
 
They make refference to decommunisation efforsts in some ex-Warsaw Pact and ex-SSR efforts to decomunize.

In Russia storyline Ukraine was founded by communists (Lenin, Stalin and Krustchov) and any decommunisation means that Ukraine should cease to exists.
Ukrainian identity was born in the 9th century
When the first king of Kiev United most of the region
Help from the Orthodox Church of Constantinople
Historically illiterate idiots should shut it
 
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Ukrainian identity was born in the 9th century
When the first king of Kiev United most of the region
Help from the Orthodox Church of Constantinople
Historically illiterate idiots should shut it

To add onto this: Ukrainian and Belarusian are not dialects of Russian; they're distinct languages that are in the same language family as Russian (similar to how English, Dutch, and Frisian are Germanic languages that aren't intelligible with High German itself). Langfocus has a really good video illustrating the differences between Russian and Ukrainian.

The regions now comprising modern-day Belarus and Ukraine were historical territories of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. There were centuries of influence from Polish that affected the development of Belarusian and Ukrainian as languages before those regions were absorbed into Imperial Russia. Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus claim their origins from the Kievan Rus, but that still doesn't change the fact that all three languages developed along different paths. The idea that Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians are "one" people is ignorant at best and blatantly revisionist at worst.
 

Germany To Russia: We're 'Kinda Experts' On Nazism, And Russia Isn't Fighting It​

German diplomats called out their Russian counterparts after Russia’s embassy in South Africa said the nation was “fighting Nazism” in Ukraine.

“Dear subscribers, we have received a great number of letters of solidarity from South Africans, both individuals and organizations,” Russia’s South African embassy tweeted Saturday. “We appreciate your support and glad you decided to stand with us today, when Russia, like 80 years ago, is fighting Nazism in Ukraine!”

Germany’s embassy in South Africa responded to point out that Russia, which is in its second week of invadingthe sovereign nation of Ukraine, is not fighting Nazism. And Germany, where the Nazi Party was founded, would know.

“Sorry, but we can’t stay silent on this one, it’s just far too cynical,” the German Embassy said in a tweet. “What [Russia] is doing in [Ukraine] is slaughtering innocent children, women and men for its own gain. It’s definitely not ‘fighting Nazism.’ Shame on anyone who’s falling for this. (Sadly, we’re kinda experts on Nazism.)”
Russian President Vladimir Putin previously said he wanted to “denazify” Ukraine, a pretext for his invasion. Russian forces later bombed the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial in Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv. Five people were killed.

While the U.S. and NATO allies have placed punishing sanctions on Russia, its forces continue to battle against Ukrainian defenders. More than 800 children have been wounded so far.
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The title gave me a good chuckle.
 
No, that was me being pro-Putin back in the day. Thinking that his regime was a necessary counterbalance to the West and to keep Russia stable. I was cheering him on when his forces fought ISIS, whiel the West sat and watched.
Oh, gotcha, thanks for clarifying.

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Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett met with Putin for a couple hours in Moscow with Kharkiv-born minister Zeev Elkin translating. Zeev having been offered a cabinet post in Zelensky's government when he became president and Zeev also has a brother along with other relatives in Ukraine. Bennett apparently coordinated with the US, Germany, and France before the meeting on Ukraine.

Putin asked Israel not to sell weapons to Ukraine and they also discussed the Iran nuclear deal, though Ukraine was the primary topic of the meeting.

Bennett is flying to Berlin to meet with Chancellor Scholz tonight and may fly to Paris next to discuss Ukraine.


Also seeing some comments about Russia diverting resources from Syria to go to Ukraine, but not seeing a serious report to back up the claim.
 
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Just a tweet but it says Russia has lost 9 aircraft in a little over 24 hours, which is a huge number for a modern air force. Apparently they’ve been leaning on the RuAF more since they’re running out of PGMs, resulting in higher air losses.
Edit: For context, losses below this number throughout the entirety of the Russo-Georgian war caused Russia to restructure their entire Air Force.
 
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Visa and MasterCard sanctions: https://www.reuters.com/business/fi...ions-russia-over-ukraine-invasion-2022-03-05/

Within days, all transactions initiated with Visa cards issued within Russia will no longer work outside of the country and any Visa cards issued outside of the Russia will no longer work within the country, the company said.

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Mastercard said its cards issued by Russian banks will no longer be supported by Mastercard networks, an any the company's card issued outside of the Russia will not work at Russian merchants or ATMs.
 
Our Pro-PRC youtuber friend's shitpost of the day about the recent war

Though I'm worried you're average lefties will unironically believe in a ghost of California.
At this point, no matter how this war ends, Putin's goal of a stronger Russia has already failed. There won't be a Russia anymore. Just Northern China.

Siberia is already swamped with Chinese migrants; if Russia becomes dependent on China for economic activity, China will end up owning their neighbor to the north.
You mean it's not already?
The Russian government, ironically enough, is run by members of the old USSR Communist Party, or their kids. The kind of people that once used the woke Americans as a tool.
And they say incompetent leaders were to blame
I think it's time for ol' Put to just say fuck it & nuke the entire region with every one of his bombs. "If I can't have it, NO ONE WILL!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!"
China will. Mao once said let the nukes fly as we will build a new world from the ashes of nuclear explosions.
 

Could President Zelensky's Comedy Career Save the Ukraine?

KEY POINTS​

  • The traits required for stand-up comedy have serious import that could help President Zelensky.
  • The kind of war now being waged in the Ukraine requires the kind of innovation that stand-up comedy nurtures.
  • Research demonstrates a close connection between humor and innovation.
Many people have expressed amazement at the fact that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was a comedian before becoming president of the Ukraine. But most of the people who are amazed by his earlier career know nothing of the traits or skills necessary for a successful life in humor or comedy.
I, by contrast, do.

My first job after college was writing funny greeting cards for American Greetings in Cleveland; Then, after moving to Los Angeles, I wrote for “The Monkees” for two years (winning an Emmy Award); And later, drawing on my background as a preacher’s kid, I wrote “THE GOOD BOOK…of Bible Cartoons” (with drawings by Sherman Labby). It became a best-seller.

So I am well acquainted with the hazards and requirements that go along with a life in humor or comedy. And my belief is that Zelensky’s background in comedy actually gives him a tremendous advantage in the current Ukrainian crisis. Here’s why:
If you go into most traditional fields, like law or medicine, there is a groundswell of support for you, and there is a high expectation for your success. “That is a good field;” “You’ll probably do very well;” ”You’ve chosen wisely.” These are common comments one hears when embarking on a traditional field or occupation.

But if you go into comedy, you get a completely different response. When people find out what you’re doing, they’ll tell you you’re completely nuts. (And they may be right!)
The road to success in comedy or humor is filled with pitfalls. And if you do stand-up comedy, as Zelensky did in his early years, you have to deal with a battalion of hecklers.

Audiences don’t make it easy for comedy people. They laugh from time to time, but the laughs can be very hard won. So, to survive in comedy, after you’ve been knocked down so many times, you have to have tremendous inner strength and commitment.
This is why I believe that Zelensky’s background in comedy, far from being a detriment, is a tremendous advantage in helping him deal with the current Ukrainian crisis.

Zelensky’s background in comedy also gives him another tremendous advantage in dealing with the Russian invasion.
Thomas Friedman wrote in The New York Times on February 27: “We have never seen anything like this before. It is a new kind of war, a wired war.” It is the first war where many of the combatants have cell phones and where much of the fighting is fully visible to everyone everywhere. The only way the Ukrainians can hold their own is by being constantly innovative.

President Zelensky’s comedy background proves again to be a huge advantage.
Dr. Jennifer Aaker and Dr. Naomi Bagdonas, of the Stanford University Graduate School of business have been doing extensive research into the relationship between humor and innovation. They have found that people who excel at innovative thinking almost always have a very strong and well-developed sense of humor. The evidence indicates that President Zelensky has the humor requirements to be the strong innovator he needs to be.

Dr.s Aaker and Bagdonas have also written a book for the general public, Humor, Seriously. It provides tools to help the rest of us—noncomedians—learn how to use our natural sense of humor to become more innovative in all the different areas of our lives.
To return to the original question, “Could President Zelensky’s Comedy career save the Ukraine?” I believe the answer is a strong “Yes!” The strength of will and spirit President Zelensky developed during his comedy years and the tremendous innovative ability he also developed during that time may well help to propel the Ukrainian cause to victory.

Let us hope and pray so!
 
NPR reporter commenting on how defense people in Ukraine are against photos and video being taken of anything. Feels a little noteworthy since I've seen some odd people (guys like Thernovich) suggesting the conflict was being fictionalized due to a lack of video of the actual firefights coming out, when they're probably not wanting to giveaway information to Russia that could help get them killed.
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he man is accusing his opponents of being Nazis,

Technically there are many Neo-Nazi like factions in Ukraine, some are even members of the parliament, or Mayors.

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That's just the cover story though. Putin just wants to remove the Western puppet and replace it with a Russian puppet. Zelensky was instantly proclaimed superstar status and every corp "deplatformed" Russia. Globalhomo is not happy.'

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Putin was even kicked out of the special club.
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Does Russia even have a functional Navy?
No. Somehow its even less of a Navy than the Chinese one. I mean, they've still got their SSNs and SSBNs, but given that those had issues with spontaneously catching fire even in the 1980's, and there was that recent accident where the engineers had to scuttle the sub to keep the reactor from melting down...

Poor bastards. I guess they figured they were already dead from whatever was happening inside of it.
VDV are considered the most badass soldiers, but they shat the bed pretty bad in this war by the sound of it, and now they've lost an entire general in combat. It's humiliating for Russian army, and probably Russia in its entirety. Should be a huge moral boost to Ukrainian fighters.
The VDV look to have done reasonably well considering the missions they've been given. Unfortunately for them, the missions they've been given have been filed under the chapter titled "DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO FUCKING CHOICE" in every single paratrooper textbook and training manual since WW2.
 
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