General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

People that got spared of the Reaper autism (EDIT for updates)

Noctyx

  1. Sonny
  2. Yugo
  3. Alban
  4. Uki
Missing: Fulgor

Luxiem

  1. Luca
  2. Ike
  3. Mysta
  4. Shu
  5. Vox
Missing: Shu, Vox No one, After 30 minutes of this being posted Calli refollowed Shu and Vox for some reason

Ethyria

  1. Nina
  2. Enna
  3. Reimu
  4. Millie
Missing: no one

Obsidya

  1. Petra
Missing: Selen, Rosemi

Lazulight
  1. Pomu
  2. Finana
  3. Elira
Missing: no one

Cant find Selen or Rosemi for some reason
 
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Ngl this sounds too much like a reach, Mori's range isnt always that low and she even uses a higher pitched voice unatianable to anyone born a man without sounding too forced, if anything sometimes her wigger voice sounds like the tryhard one than the moments she makes it higher for muh gap moe
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She has gotten superchats from "TransWomen" stating exactly what I said. It isn't a reach.

With proper training and experience they can get a higher voice than any girl's natural voice. Its uncanny.
In my particular case, I didn't get diagnosed til I had flunked out of college. I'm on the higher end of the bell curve (95+ percentile) so I zoomed through public high school with it being a complete joke. But as such, when I landed in a prestigious university, I discovered I had learned absolutely zero study skills throughout my entire life. And with an undiagnosed 'learning disorder' to contend with, I very quickly learned a 5-figure lesson in how unprepared I was for college. Smarts don't mean much if you have no fucking clue how to apply them.

But yea, a lot of Calli's habits suddenly make a lot of sense when viewed through the lens of "She's got ADHD". Not an excuse, exactly as you say. But definitely a modifies the way you view it all.
Yeah I was diagnosed early but hit a similar burnout. Completely dropped out of my country's equivalent to High School and just started taking Society's shit jobs since.

And I agree with your take on Calli. It doesn't excuse it, but it does explain it.
On corporations giving out equipment, it's not as easy to manage as you'd think.

If they give equipment: logistics aside, most contracts will state that any work done on company provided equipment belong to the company to cover their own interests. This would mean that employees have to watch what they do and if they want to do work for say another job/channel they'd need another computer. So then they'd need 2 PCs to cover all bases, 3 if they have a dual PC streaming setup.

If they give money: Is it considered personal property or company property? What if an Aloe happens? The talent would need to repay the stipend which they've now sunk into equipment so it's now out of pocket for them unless they can find some way to recoup the costs.

In either case there's also the issue of physical tech support. Only really works when the employees are in the same city as the company.

Employees buying their own gear: they can do whatever they want on them. No issues once a contract ends. They can get stuff repaired locally. This does mean that not everyone is on equal footing. Anyone that can afford the upfront costs for equipment will be in a better position that someone trying to stream from a laptop with a dollar store mic.
I've worked in company logistics, my solution would be leasing* for a set amount of time, after which the talent owns it. Covers Cover/Niji's ass incase of an Aloe and in a situation like Rushia they don't risk her ruining the PC to "get back at them". As for Tech Support, its PC's. There's no reason it would or should change just because Cover/Niji gave them PC's to use, send them in to repair from whichever retailer the PC was bought from.

So essentially what I suggest is that Cover/Niji buys any new member two new PCs. One setup for streaming, the other for gaming. Teaches them how to output gaming footage from the gaming PC to the streaming PC and that's that. The new member would be sysadmin of their new machines and could do whatever, but Cover owns the hardware. But they sign a contract that reads after the member has streamed for 3 months or something, the hardware will be theirs as well. And other stipulations like if they do anything to void the warranty its on them to pay for repairs.
*Obviously without a cost towards the girls.

But speaking of logistics, I will admit it'd be quite hard to keep something like this going with Holo going more and more international. Like if one of the Holostars is in Egypt and another in Moldova, the logistics of setting both up is a nightmare. But it'd be quite easy to work out a contract that'd benefit all parties.
 
She has gotten superchats from "TransWomen" stating exactly what I said. It isn't a reach.
Id honestly wouldnt take a tranny's word on what is or isnt feminine at face value, ngl, and the fact that its a youtube acc with that obvious of a name it could also be a purpouseful jab at her from an anti/schizo

I honestly do find it hard to believe that out of all the things she would be insecure of, her voice sounding deep would be the least of her worries since she proves she can make it very feminine, imho
 
Cant find Selen or Rosemi for some reason
I was curious about this - Selen doesn't seem to follow anyone from HoloEN (only ID), and Rosemi only follows Council. I figure most of the time these are courtesy followbacks, so I'm kinda doubting that Calli ever followed them in the first place. (easier explanation considering that they weren't even involved in this drama)

Shu also escaped her wrath btw, I think it's just Vox and Vulgar Fulgur who got reaped

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Edit: well this is interesting

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Id honestly wouldnt take a tranny's word on what is or isnt feminine at face value, ngl, and the fact that its a youtube acc with that obvious of a name it could also be a purpouseful jab at her from an anti/schizo

I honestly do find it hard to believe that out of all the things she would be insecure of, her voice sounding deep would be the least of her worries since she proves she can make it very feminine, imho
I don't take the opinion of the deranged at any value. It's just the funniest SuperChat I've seen. Not the most cringey and not the saddest. Just the funniest in how much of a backbanded insult it is.

I don't believe Karen is insecure in her voice and I don't believe she should be, either. I credit much of HoloMyth's success to the two songs she dropped on release being spectacular songs gaining heavy traction even outside the vtuber fandom. There's a ton of rappers on YouTube making videos reacting to them and breaking them down for a reason; from a mainstream perspective, they were good songs. She has a marvelous voice.

What im saying is that if a transman came up to me and said my voice gave them strength & hope that they too can make a passable male voice I would feel incredibly insecure about my voice.
 
I was curious about this - Selen doesn't seem to follow anyone from HoloEN (only ID), and Rosemi only follows Council. I figure most of the time these are courtesy followbacks, so I'm kinda doubting that Calli ever followed them in the first place. (easier explanation considering that they weren't even involved in this drama)

Shu also escaped her wrath btw, I think it's just Vox and Vulgar Fulgur who got reaped

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Edit: well this is interesting

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That was not there 15 minutes ago i triple checked the entire list of Calli followers neither rosemi or selen were there, Fulgur is still not there , or was a twitter bug or...
 
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I was curious about this - Selen doesn't seem to follow anyone from HoloEN (only ID), and Rosemi only follows Council. I figure most of the time these are courtesy followbacks, so I'm kinda doubting that Calli ever followed them in the first place. (easier explanation considering that they weren't even involved in this drama)

Shu also escaped her wrath btw, I think it's just Vox and Vulgar Fulgur who got reaped

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I used https://doesfollow.com/ to check
I can confirm she does follow Vox.
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The only people only were Rosemi and Fulgur.
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That was not there 15 minutes ago i triple checked
Maybe she's following people back.
 
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At the very least talked it out. Since apparently he was on the unfollow list previously
Or she realized she overreacted and refollowed hoping noone would notice.

But we did notice. And now when they egosearch themselves in here they'll know what she did.

so what you're saying is now that we've spent multiple pages playing armchair psychologist because Calli unfollowed someone on twitter, we can now spend several pages once again playing armchair psychologist because she refollowed someone on twitter.

Excellent.
That's why we're here. Did she unfollow 3 but only re-followed 1? Rrats time
 
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