Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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The thing that's crazy to me, people are A-Ok with the entire business world being used as a weapon agaisnt a group of people TPTB don't like. Getting very Christians to the lions vibes and people are either cheering for it or don't have a problem with it. That's more concerning to me than anything going on in Ukraine.

This whole thing could have been avoided if Zelensky recognized the Donbaus Republics. The precedent being set right now is way scarier than Putin taking all of Ukraine imo. If they can do it to a country they can do it to you.


Yes its russia is getting canceled not some y ou youtuber
 
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The thing that's crazy to me, people are A-Ok with the entire business world being used as a weapon agaisnt a group of people TPTB don't like. Getting very Christians to the lions vibes and people are either cheering for it or don't have a problem with it. That's more concerning to me than anything going on in Ukraine.

This whole thing could have been avoided if Zelensky recognized the Donbaus Republics. The precedent being set right now is way scarier than Putin taking all of Ukraine imo. If they can do it to a country they can do it to you.
Honestly, if it leads to the degradation and eventual end of the all-consuming US financial system then it’s probably better than the alternative. If they cancel whole countries their ability to cancel you will diminish.
 
The thing that's crazy to me, people are A-Ok with the entire business world being used as a weapon agaisnt a group of people TPTB don't like. Getting very Christians to the lions vibes and people are either cheering for it or don't have a problem with it. That's more concerning to me than anything going on in Ukraine.

This whole thing could have been avoided if Zelensky recognized the Donbaus Republics. The precedent being set right now is way scarier than Putin taking all of Ukraine imo. If they can do it to a country they can do it to you.
Otherwise neutral people can so easily be driven into a frenzy it's crazy. A close relative follows sports very closely and, despite not being a fan of russians in general, she's appalled by how sportsmen treat their fellow russians. They're being banned from participating left and right not for breaking rules or doping, but just because they're Russians, so much about sportsmanship.
 
i thought russia was supposed to be a military menace but the bumbling fuckups is kind of disappointing. I wanted to see a modern war but its just a better equiped arab war.
I don't know where people got the idea that Russia is competent from. Their ships catch on fire for no reason and their air force had a pretty high kill rate in Syria...against their own ground troops.

The only thing they're really good at is using fodder to lure defenders into cities and then using MTBs to surround the city and turn it into a ruin. Unfortunately for Ukraine they're actually quite good at this.
 
Redditor regretting his decision or Ukrainian trying to dodge the volkssturm?
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Russia just released papers that allegedly prove that the Ukies were running Bio weapons labs, including plague and anthrax pathogens.
Even bigger, it was not only US approved, but funded as well.
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I wont pretend to understand what this says, and as usual with this war, grain of salt on EVERYTHING, but if this is true, this is a violation of the UN rules (I know, try not to laugh) on chemical weapons, and it really kicks any moral high-ground the Ukrainians have in the nuts. Kremlin to release official statement soon.

Edit: Basic rundown on docs is order by the Ukrainian Ministry of Health ordering destruction of all pathogens. These are dated Feb. 24. Also these facilities were allegedly near the RU-UKR border.

If the schizos were right about this one...
 
Russia just released papers that allegedly prove that the Ukies were running Bio weapons labs, including plague and anthrax pathogens.
Even bigger, it was not only US approved, but funded as well.
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I wont pretend to understand what this says, and as usual with this war, grain of salt on EVERYTHING, but if this is true, this is a violation of the UN rules (I know, try not to laugh) on chemical weapons, and it really kicks any moral high-ground the Ukrainians have in the nuts. Kremlin to release official statement soon.
Putin is gonna turn Ukraine into an Iraq 2 at this point, Nukes and Bio-weapon labs?
This shit is getting ridiculous, i can't possibly believe the elites of the west to be retarded enough to bank that many resources in the country right next to their enemy.
But then again this is clownworld
 
I am confused on how a classless and hierachy-free military would function. So an infantryman could disregard a communication from headquarters?
Yes.

That’s how some North American Indian war bands functioned. They (or at least Cherokees) were arguably an anarchist society as they didn’t really have any law enforcement institutions or other means of compulsion, basically punishment escalated from shunning to banishment to execution, the last one implying you’d been ejected from the tribe and were regarded as hostile. Chiefs did exist, with lots of formal rules, but they didn’t have the legal ability to, say, throw you in “jail” for disobeying an order.

When Cherokees went to war their leaders commanded through force of personality (like leaders of a gang). This caused conflicts when they’d have to cooperate with European militaries, because the Europeans would do things like hang deserters or beat soldiers who’d refuse to advance.

Now, you may think this is a lousy system that would result in the tribes getting beat around by a proper organized military. And it was. (There’s a reason no anarchist societies exist on a large scale.)



This may sound like a shitshow, but it really wasn't for the scale at which the Cherokees operated. Shunning (like not being allowed to sleep in the longhouse/get corn from the village) means pretty much being cut off from your entire social support structure and cast out, that's a huge deal. Even just being disgraced is a huge deal for savages, you know, shame your ancestors and no squaw wants to lay with you.

Also, oddly, Cherokees had a high rate of compliance with executions, that is, it was not uncommon for them to voluntarily surrender themselves because it was their duty (like Japanese complying with seppuku).

In the end they Westernized and adopted an actual state with dedicated law enforcement, don't know if they had a proper military. But all the problems they did have when facing total war would be 1000x worse for a modern White anarchist society where everybody scoffs at honor and even the worst degenerates are supposed to be supported with free crack pipes. Anarchist savages only function because their family bonds (everybody's extended kin) are so strong, which is exactly what ideological anarchists want to undermine. Tribal societies are sort of naively anarchist, they're just very large families and form states as they get sufficiently large. Very different from attempts to create an intentional anarchist society.

Funny enough, Iroquois had something much more resembling a proper state. I don't know how their concept of law differed, but it would be interesting to see if they had different mores about discipline that made them effective at conquering rivals.
 
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Russia just released papers that allegedly prove that the Ukies were running Bio weapons labs, including plague and anthrax pathogens.
Even bigger, it was not only US approved, but funded as well.
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I wont pretend to understand what this says, and as usual with this war, grain of salt on EVERYTHING, but if this is true, this is a violation of the UN rules (I know, try not to laugh) on chemical weapons, and it really kicks any moral high-ground the Ukrainians have in the nuts. Kremlin to release official statement soon.

Edit: Basic rundown on docs is order by the Ukrainian Ministry of Health ordering destruction of all pathogens. These are dated Feb. 24. Also these facilities were allegedly near the RU-UKR border.

If the schizos were right about this one...
You're telling me the Ukrainians put their super duper sekrit)) bioweapon laboratories right next to the Russian border? The border of the country they've been unofficially at war with for 8 years?
 
Russia just released papers that allegedly prove that the Ukies were running Bio weapons labs, including plague and anthrax pathogens.
Even bigger, it was not only US approved, but funded as well.
View attachment 3047985
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I wont pretend to understand what this says, and as usual with this war, grain of salt on EVERYTHING, but if this is true, this is a violation of the UN rules (I know, try not to laugh) on chemical weapons, and it really kicks any moral high-ground the Ukrainians have in the nuts. Kremlin to release official statement soon.

Edit: Basic rundown on docs is order by the Ukrainian Ministry of Health ordering destruction of all pathogens. These are dated Feb. 24. Also these facilities were allegedly near the RU-UKR border.

If the schizos were right about this one...
I'd believe this about as much as I'd believe statements on Saddam having Yellowcake uranium.
 
Russian artillery unit thoroughly ravaged, apparently in the Mykolaiv area.
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Chances that this is actually a decimated Ukrainian unit? About 100%


What's this you say? A shitlib commentator calling for WW3

In other words: rather than leave the fighting, and the dying, to Ukrainians alone – and then eventually abandon them – the western democracies should put their air combat forces on standby, declare their intention to impose a no-fly zone – and tell the Kremlin to stop the killing.

The transformation of the Guardian from an old fashioned lefty rag into a mouthpiece for multinationals and pushing nuclear war has been quite something.

What a timeline. I hope the Russians wrap this up soon.
 
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