Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Spicey McHaggis]

...Why does Austria even exist? They're worthless. They should have been permanently Anschlussed by Germany.

They literally only exist anymore because after occupying them for a few years the soviets and nato said fuck it and let them be a country on the condition they're neutral and don't ever join with Germany.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Zelensky was all over the place in his election campaign, initially wanting to try to cool things with Moscow but then pulling out tough guy rhetoric when his opponents accused him of being a pro-Russia pussy.

But by election night he was still pretty bullish about achieving a ceasefire in the Donbass and trying to normalize the situation there, and the Russians seemed to think they could cut a deal with him:



What happened next probably involved the US, the EU, and the Ukrainian oligarchs telling Z-man how things would actually be. Instead of winding down the civil war, he ended up shelling them some more, and instead of trying to make Ukraine a peaceful bridge between Russia and Europe (something that would be of great benefit to Ukraine) he was forced to pick a side. The US/EU side. His anti-corruption promises also quickly got forgotten - like Trump, he found that you don't drain the swamp when literally everybody with money, power and influence lives there. In post-Soviet Ukraine, swamp drains YOU!

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Zelensky isn't a bad guy, he's just in way over his head and had everybody pulling his strings, lying to him, and threatening him from the start. Without any real experience to fall back on, and likely nobody in government he could really trust, it was inevitable he'd end up as someone's patsy. Yes, he's a puppet (so are most European leaders), but he probably got into politics because he genuinely thought he could fix things in Ukraine.

Being turned into a pop culture hero by insincere faggots is probably the worst thing that could've happened to the guy in this situation. He doesn't need his ego tickled by Western homos encouraging him to larp as Eastern European Chuck Norris. He needs to find a way to come to terms with the Russkies before everybody under the age of 30 leaves Ukraine forever.

Do we actually have any solid proof of Ukraine shelling Donbas on the regular, unprovoked? Especially just before this war, the videos I saw from the Russian side were, well, let's just say too obvious as false flags.

The only time I saw concrete evidence was when they droned a separatist artillery position which had been firing on them previously and killed a Ukrainian soldier the day before that.

 

[hooboy]

No they should be put in a Euro Retard Basket with Hungary and the Balkan nations. The old solutions are still the best ones.

the more memes of savage country balls squatting with their ducks hanging out the better

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Weapons are great, but given their desperate conscription, they're running out of personnel and real tactical leadership.

Weapons are great if you've got a chance of defending yourself with them. That chance, for Ukraine, closed on February 24. They aren't gonna win this war without Nato directly getting involved, and Z-man knows it. That's why he was so bitter in his speech to Nato recently, he was probably led to believe they'd have his back and now he's finding that the only foreign country willing to risk its own troops and pilots over the fate of Ukraine is Russia.

At this point, the weapons are just disguised pork for the MIC (even the "free" Migs from Poland mean nice high-margin contracts for Lockheed Martin to build F-16s to replace them, plus all the training and maintenance contracts) and a desire by the State Department to make Russia's victory as bloody and costly as possible. But it'll be costlier still for Ukraine, since it's their country that's the warzone. It's not a gesture of friendship, it's a dick move: "it's dangerous to go alone, take this... and go alone".

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Maybe not but thay have a warning to move people away from the legitimate military target. They won't though.

Kinda difficult to evacuate thousands to millions of people from their homes in the span of a day. And that's assuming the place isn't surrounded which Russian news insists it is.

 

[Richardface]

It's a bit jarring seeing how much /pol/ and /k/ are so polarized on the Ukraine war.
I think /k/ is probably being too optimistic about the Ukrainians, but I am enjoying their memes a lot more.
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Imma let you finish but my WWII autism compels me to say that Bastogne was paras fighting as light infantry, the actual paradrop operation par excellence was either the Fallschirmjaegars capturing the Belgian fort Eben Emael in 1940 or (small unit so maybe doesn't count) Otto Skorzeny freeing Mussolini from captivity

 

[Saleh]

Do we actually have any solid proof of Ukraine shelling Donbas on the regular, unprovoked? Especially just before this war, the videos I saw from the Russian side were, well, let's just say too obvious as false flags.

The only time I saw concrete evidence was when they droned a separatist artillery position which had been firing on them previously and killed a Ukrainian soldier the day before that.

Come on now, if both sides didn't commit atrocities then it wouldn't be a war in the 21st century.

There has never been a clean record in modern war.

 

[CheepMeds]

It's a bit jarring seeing how much /pol/ and /k/ are so polarized on the Ukraine war.
I think /k/ is probably being too optimistic about the Ukrainians, but I am enjoying their memes a lot more.
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Transcript of the VDV Trooper copypasta

You will never be a real paratrooper. You have no ground support, you have no comms, you have no transports. You are a light infantry man twisted by boot camp rape and propaganda into a crude mockery of Bastogne's perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your telyshanka appearance behind closed doors.

Infantrymen are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed infantrymen to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even paratroopers who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to an infantryman. Your blue beret is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to capture a contested airport you will turn tail and bolt the second an Ukrainian National Guard unit shows up.

You will never be elite. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll prepare your parachute, pack your gear, put it around your back, and plunge into the cold abyss. Territorial defence units will find you, giddy but relieved that they no longer have to scavenge for gear. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a paratrooper is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably a paratrooper.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

 

[Richardface]

US Treasury helping US companies avoid US sanctions

https://nitter.net/ClintEhrlich/status/1500604460623544322#m

 

[White_N]

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is calling for jihad on Ukraine.

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, appealed to the Ukrainian military and shaitans from nationalist battalions.


"We're already here! Have you heard the order of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief to punish those who killed civilians in Donbass and Odessa? And we will do it. We have the addresses of all the Shaitans and their families. The Nazis know that. Therefore, they, like jackals, hide behind the backs of the military-those who took the oath to the people of Ukraine, "Kadyrov said.


The head of the Czech Republic added that soon everything will end and everyone will live in peace.


"Guys, we know that they, like fascists, shoot you in the back and have created protective detachments. Deal with them yourself, or better yet, leave them to us. You are Slavic brothers! We want your mothers to always have beloved sons. Go home! Soon it will all be over, and we will live in friendship as before. Don't bother us. We won't stop. We have an order, we have a jihad, "the head of the region concluded.

Having a personal Sardaukar army is the simutaniosly coolest and most retarded thing I've ever seen.

 

[Richardface]

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is calling for jihad on Ukraine.
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The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, appealed to the Ukrainian military and shaitans from nationalist battalions.


"We're already here! Have you heard the order of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief to punish those who killed civilians in Donbass and Odessa? And we will do it. We have the addresses of all the Shaitans and their families. The Nazis know that. Therefore, they, like jackals, hide behind the backs of the military-those who took the oath to the people of Ukraine, "Kadyrov said.


The head of the Czech Republic added that soon everything will end and everyone will live in peace.


"Guys, we know that they, like fascists, shoot you in the back and have created protective detachments. Deal with them yourself, or better yet, leave them to us. You are Slavic brothers! We want your mothers to always have beloved sons. Go home! Soon it will all be over, and we will live in friendship as before. Don't bother us. We won't stop. We have an order, we have a jihad, "the head of the region concluded.

Having a personal Sardaukar army is the simutaniosly coolest and most retarded thing I've ever seen.

Phase 1. Create personal Sardaukar out of the toughened survivors of one of the most brutal societies on earth
Phase 2. Create personal shielding tech so that their knife fighting skills makes them unmatched on the battlefield

Eagerly awaiting phase 2 completion

 

[CheepMeds]

I apologize if this has already been posted.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Come on now, if both sides didn't commit atrocities then it wouldn't be a war in the 21st century.

There has never been a clean record in modern war.

More like any war ever. Go back and look at ancient times, it's relatively tame now. Fuck Alexander the great would kill off the entire male population who were taller than a wagon wheel in conquered cities.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Come on now, if both sides didn't commit atrocities then it wouldn't be a war in the 21st century.

There has never been a clean record in modern war.

You are way too optimistic over the reasons people start wars.

 

[Octavia]

Phase 1. Create personal Sardaukar out of the toughened survivors of one of the most brutal societies on earth
Phase 2. Create personal shielding tech so that their knife fighting skills makes them unmatched on the battlefield

Eagerly awaiting phase 2 completion

Honestly Phase 2 can take its sweet time in the oven, Chechen soldiers are built like Doomguy anyway lmao

 

[Very_sad_man]

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is calling for jihad on Ukraine.
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The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, appealed to the Ukrainian military and shaitans from nationalist battalions.


"We're already here! Have you heard the order of our Supreme Commander-in-Chief to punish those who killed civilians in Donbass and Odessa? And we will do it. We have the addresses of all the Shaitans and their families. The Nazis know that. Therefore, they, like jackals, hide behind the backs of the military-those who took the oath to the people of Ukraine, "Kadyrov said.


The head of the Czech Republic added that soon everything will end and everyone will live in peace.


"Guys, we know that they, like fascists, shoot you in the back and have created protective detachments. Deal with them yourself, or better yet, leave them to us. You are Slavic brothers! We want your mothers to always have beloved sons. Go home! Soon it will all be over, and we will live in friendship as before. Don't bother us. We won't stop. We have an order, we have a jihad, "the head of the region concluded.

Having a personal Sardaukar army is the simutaniosly coolest and most retarded thing I've ever seen.

I remember that after the Boston Marathon bombing people confused the Czechia with Chechnya and the Americans were sending us death threats. It was fucking hilarious.

 

[Lone MacReady]

More like any war ever. Go back and look at ancient times, it's relatively tame now. Fuck Alexander the great would kill off the entire male population who were taller than a wagon wheel in conquered cities.

To Us: Alexander the Great.

To Them: Alexander the Accursed.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Do we actually have any solid proof of Ukraine shelling Donbas on the regular, unprovoked? Especially just before this war, the videos I saw from the Russian side were, well, let's just say too obvious as false flags.

The only time I saw concrete evidence was when they droned a separatist artillery position which had been firing on them previously and killed a Ukrainian soldier the day before that.

Pretty sure they've been provoking each other the whole time. Al Jazeera has been covering the shelling from time to time over the last few years, other non-Russian media just ignored it or pretended it was all Putiny lies. Instead of endlessly exchanging artillery fire to blow up random babushkas in godforsaken villages forever, it takes at least one side to be willing to try something different. Zelensky thought he could be that guy in 2019, which is to his credit, but it wasn't to be.

Side note: the US is bombing Somalia again as of a couple weeks ago, and the Saudis are still trying to exterminate whoever it is they hate in Yemen. None of this stuff makes the evening news or gets Tik Tok excited, so it's like it never happened. It's all Ukraine/Russia, all the time.

 

[Tree]

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Source: Twitter (Archive)

Musk Musk, Mr. Musk, when will you tell your followers that their leaders hate them?

 

[afternoon_tea]

Kept away from this thread for a while, because reasons. But have some delicious Polish volunteers who think it is still 1920 (Possibly posted before).

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Fun thing: When asked "When will you come back?" their leader answered: 48 hours after taking Moscow. (Yes, for real, link in PL).

Like a dog with a bone, I swear. My 72 year old father has lived in United States for almost 40 years and he's still in this mindset, my mother had me talk some sense into him because he wants to go to Ukraine too.

I'm starting to realize in my old age that holding a grudge forever is maybe not the healthiest mindset to have. I empathize, but it's all just sad to me.