Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[LUNEKO]

'How many more children must die to convince Russian troops to stop firing?' President Zelensky's wife pleads with media to 'tell the terrible truth' that Putin's forces are killing children 'consciously and cynically'​

• Olena Zelenska has said Russians have been killing Ukrainian children
• She said Putin's troops are killing children 'consciously and cynically'
• The wife of President Zelensky said Nato should implement a no-fly zone

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10584571/Zelenskys-wife-pleads-media-tell-terrible-truth-Putins-forces-killing-children.html

Are we in the "Russian troops eat babies" stage of the propaganda?


At least before it used to come with pretty pictures, now all we get is ms paint furry porn

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Israeli media is claiming "According to the Channel 12 report, Russia conveyed to Israel via diplomatic channels that it is deliberately not targeting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, even though it knows where he is, reportedly with the aim of capturing him alive."

They want to put him on trial probably

I'd wager they care more about not making him a martyr at the moment. If he flees the country, that's not a big deal for them as he's likely to only be a minor nuisance in the future. If they capture him, that's fine, they probably already planned a show trial for him and the war will have just given them more material to work with. If they kill him now? National martyr that they'll never be rid of, a symbol of fighting for Ukraine's independence for decades to come.

 

[Socrates]

No.

I have always believed that there is a truth. Truth that supports all of reality. A reality that is universal. It's is true the DC ruling class are feckless imbeciles. And it is also true that Putin Avaricious manlet with delusions of grandeur. Both these things can be true at the same time.

And so I must advocate for MY truth. And MY truth is that the people must be free. Free to choose their jobs, where to spend their money, or what flag to salute. And when something comes along that is a challenge to this Truth, I must oppose it. Even if it puts me on the side of fucking Reddit.

The difference between morality and politics is politics trades its morality, and morality ignores its politics. I cannot side with a country that has, without provocation, started the largest war in Europe in nearly a century.

And I certainly cannot stand by and watch you idiots credulously spread propaganda as fact.

They were wearing Blue Armbands. The truth is they were not Ukrainian soldiers. And the truth is what matters.

nigga relax. like god damn, go take a breather, watch some funny cat videos or something.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

It's more like Greek and Turkish Cypriots generally lived together pretty well, but suddenly when it was politically convenient for the Turks the Greek Cypriots, who didn't want to join with Greece, decided to genocide the Turkish Cypriots. Which justified the Turks invading Cyprus and remaining there to this day, of course. And NATO just looks the other way, not because they need the Turks to die for them, but because the Turks, a nation that wouldn't know anything about committing genocide and brutalizing ethnic minorities, makes a purely moral decision.

Eh, no. I'm not gonna shit this thread up with Cyprus stuff but the earliest mentions of violence in Cyprus go back to 1948 and it's basically Greek nationalists chimping out against the Brits and Turkish Cypriots getting hit as collateral damage (those claiming that "Greeks dindu nuffin to Turks until they started joining the British" can look up the reports themselves). Turkish Cypriots aligned with the Brits because they were outnumbered 4 to 1 and didn't wanna die. Shitshow ensues which leads to Brits noping the fuck out of Cyprus, Turkey screeching at the UN and the US to fucking do something for almost a decade over the violence in Cyprus and then finally the first invasion when basically everyone wanted the Greek junta to fuck off.

What Turkey did afterwards is certainly not cool but my point is that the first invasion, pretty much everyone was cool with and considered justified. So it would be applicable if people were totally cool nowadays with what Russia did in Ukraine and Georgia instead of widespread condemnation.

 

[Disheveled Human]

While people are talking about the VDV, it's good to understand the absolute magnitude of their fuckup near Mykolaiv.

I don't think these guys were airdropped. At least there is no clear indication that they were. It's more likely that the 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment, the unit that these guys belonged to, launched a ground attack and was repulsed. They also had towed artillery supporting them, which implies a ground operation.

When it comes to the extent of their failure, I'll let images talk for themselves. I know a lot of these are already posted, but not necessarily in the correct context. Everything after this point is NSFW:

Spoiler: Video

The aftermath of the failed attack on Mykolaiv. Note the way the BDM-2s are spread out on a field. These guys were not just ambushed on the road.
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The same cameraman filming the destroyed artillery supporting the attack. No idea what destroyed these guys, possibly drones.

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The dead guys are VDV, as identified by the blue-white striped shirts. This is filmed after the Ukrainians retrieved the bodies.

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The way when know who these guys are is due to a large number of documents and equipment left behind. This is a small fraction of the images the Ukrainians are spreading around. Note the Telnyashka.

Spoiler: Images

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Russian sources also confirm that the commander of the Regiment, Colonel Konstantin Zizevsky, was killed in the fighting:

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https://stavropolye.tv/news/163644

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cat6IYVqteF/?utm_source=ig_embed

In addition, we the Ukrainians captured several prisoners that they're showing around.

Spoiler: Prisoners

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The last guy is the one there is a video of being dragged around by the Ukrainians. He was identified as VDV.

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Also, the Commander of the 7th Guard Mountain Air Assault Division (the unit the 247th is a part of) and Deputy Commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, Major General Andrey Sukhovetsky, was killed previously. This was confirmed by Russian media.

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Here is an article about it by Pravda (ironically one of the few Russian media outlets not censored by the West):

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world/150554-russian_general/

Not only has the VDV gotten their guys killed, they even got their commanders killed. I don't think I've ever heard of an operation being screwed up this badly in the west.

Russians took too long the globohomo rigging of this war is in.

 

[Ward]

that anyone with half a brain would call out.

sad thing is, there are a lot of people that don't even have a half of it supporting the conflict from all sides

 

[Rezza]

That video confuses me too but everything else points to legit Azov fella.

My understanding is

• Red - DPR
• Yellow - Ukrainians
• White - Russians

Not sure if the LPR guys have their own colors or not.

Ah thanks, at least that's a bit cleared up. That said, did anyone else find it funny that the soldiers are wearing different colors like its team color in shooter games?

 

[Matt Damon]

I don't usually do shit like this, I think it's cringey and I'm gonna drunk post, but...

I fucking hate this...

I hate living halfway around the world and worrying that some chub dicked faggots running my government might drag my countrymen into a conflict that shouldn't involve us.

I hate that Russia invaded, causing harm to countless civilians who probably just wanted to play Elden Ring or jerk off or something.

I hate the fact the West can't leave well enough alone with the world.

I hate the fact that Zelensky can't stop trying to drag the rest of the world in to this.

I hate the fact that the lives of young Ukrainians/Russians are just thrown away due to what, essentially, boils down to a dumb border dispute.

I hate the fact that both sides are filled with retarded propaganda that anyone with half a brain would call out.

I hate the fact that my cost of living is going to increase dramatically because of some fags in office.

I hate the fact that our governments hold weapons that could eradicate everything we hold dear.

At the end of the day, the people suffering the most all over the world are dumb idiots like me and you. People who want to live their life. People who want to get up, pet their cat, go to work, come home and smoke a blunt while playing Xbox.

I don't want this. I don't think a lot of people want this. We're all suffering for the benefit of a few people, and I dearly hope we can all look back on this point in time as nothing more than an interesting part of history.

I find it very depressing that we live in a time where all of us can talk to nearly anybody in the world at any time and get first-hand accounts of what's happening on the ground via livestreams and we STILL fall for the same political tricks that have worked to get us to support gay pointless wars for at least hundreds of years.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

That video confuses me too but everything else points to legit Azov fella.

My understanding is

• Red - DPR
• Yellow - Ukrainians
• White - Russians

Not sure if the LPR guys have their own colors or not.

Have any of the people here who understand what the guy is saying translate it yet? I was tempted to just make up some shit and say he was definitely Azov based on his accent and vocabulary and the way he trims his beard, etc.

 

[Mussi]

Alright, I've found some damning evidence that could throw the result of the entire war in jeopardy. Only click this spoiler if you're ready to have your mind blown.

Spoiler: Be prepared

https://www.inquirer.com/news/nation-world/live/russia-ukraine-conflict-crisis-biden-putin-us-sanctions-news-20220228.html

 

[naffatune]

Thought I'd end the day with a compilation of news about foreign volunteers

The vast majority of the countries are unknown at the moment, but we do know that Belarusians are volunteering for the Ukrainian army

This one's from yesterday (link)

This other one is from earlier today (link)

BONUS: Found this from r/VolunteersForUkraine

By the way, if you want to know about foreign countries' perspectives on allowing their citizens to join Zelensky's International Legion, you can always go here.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

No.

I have always believed that there is a truth. Truth that supports all of reality. A reality that is universal. It is true the DC ruling class are feckless imbeciles. And it is also true that Putin is an Avaricious manlet with delusions of grandeur. Both these things can be true at the same time.

And so I must advocate for MY truth. And MY truth is that the people must be free. Free to choose their jobs, where to spend their money, or what flag to salute. And when something comes along that is a challenge to this Truth, I must oppose it. Even if it puts me on the side of fucking Reddit.

The difference between morality and politics is politics trades its morality, and morality ignores its politics. I cannot side with a country that has, without provocation, started the largest war in Europe in nearly a century.

And I certainly cannot stand by and watch you idiots credulously spread propaganda as fact.

They were wearing Blue Armbands. The truth is they were not Ukrainian soldiers. And the truth is what matters.

Lol can't go a day without sperging about Putin shills. I think the mega thread is much more up your alley.

 

[Bananadana]

I find it very depressing that we live in a time where all of us can talk to nearly anybody in the world at any time and get first-hand accounts of what's happening on the ground via livestreams and we STILL fall for the same political tricks that have worked to get us to support gay pointless wars for at least hundreds of years.

That is because you cant actually do that, thanks to heavy handed and one-sided censorship and a giant state-private-hybrid-propaganda-complex.
Edit: Or at least you cant without actually going out of your way instead of just browsing twitter for an hour per day.

 

[Aidan]

Alright, I've found some damning evidence that could throw the result of the entire war in jeopardy. Only click this spoiler if you're ready to have your mind blown.

Spoiler: Be prepared

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https://www.inquirer.com/news/nation-world/live/russia-ukraine-conflict-crisis-biden-putin-us-sanctions-news-20220228.html

delete this

 

[Mussi]

Lol can't go a day without sperging about Putin shills. I think the mega thread is much more up your alley.

I hope he doesn't get threadbanned honestly, he's very entertaining to read and debunk.

 

[Getting tard comed]

No.

I have always believed that there is a truth. Truth that supports all of reality. A reality that is universal. It is true the DC ruling class are feckless imbeciles. And it is also true that Putin is an Avaricious manlet with delusions of grandeur. Both these things can be true at the same time.

And so I must advocate for MY truth. And MY truth is that the people must be free. Free to choose their jobs, where to spend their money, or what flag to salute. And when something comes along that is a challenge to this Truth, I must oppose it. Even if it puts me on the side of fucking Reddit.

The difference between morality and politics is politics trades its morality, and morality ignores its politics. I cannot side with a country that has, without provocation, started the largest war in Europe in nearly a century.

And I certainly cannot stand by and watch you idiots credulously spread propaganda as fact.

They were wearing Blue Armbands. The truth is they were not Ukrainian soldiers. And the truth is what matters.

>Truth that supports all of reality
>"Your" Truth
Pick one.

Also, nigga calm down. You're in a hissy fit over shit you literally cannot know. Enjoy the show.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

No.

I have always believed that there is a truth. Truth that supports all of reality. A reality that is universal. It's is true the DC ruling class are feckless imbeciles. And it is also true that Putin Avaricious manlet with delusions of grandeur. Both these things can be true at the same time.

And so I must advocate for MY truth. And MY truth is that the people must be free. Free to choose their jobs, where to spend their money, or what flag to salute. And when something comes along that is a challenge to this Truth, I must oppose it. Even if it puts me on the side of fucking Reddit.

The difference between morality and politics is politics trades its morality, and morality ignores its politics. I cannot side with a country that has, without provocation, started the largest war in Europe in nearly a century.

And I certainly cannot stand by and watch you idiots credulously spread propaganda as fact.

They were wearing Blue Armbands. The truth is they were not Ukrainian soldiers. And the truth is what matters.

Nigga you ain't free, ain't nobody free in the shit hole called the USA and most of the world. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and are just sprouting platitudes politicians fling around to sooth your smoothbrain into agreeing with their flimsy excuses for their wars, which are simply a money grab that you are not allowed to partake in.

You don't know shit about this war and the goddamn order of battle. That shit is way above your pay grade. @mr.moon1488 is right, Russia has a casus belli for this war. That is the basic truth. Everything else may be tragic or funny but the fact is you have no standing to sit on your fat ass and moralize about anyone here because you are a nobody.

See you tomorrow.

 

[b0x]

 

[mindlessobserver]

Nigga you ain't free, ain't nobody free in the shit hole called the USA and most of the world. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and are just sprouting platitudes politicians fling around to sooth your smoothbrain into agreeing with their flimsy excuses for their wars, which are simply a money grab that you are not allowed to partake in.

You don't know shit about this war and the goddamn order of battle. That shit is way above your pay grade. @mr.moon1488 is right, Russia has a casus belli for this war. That is the basic truth. Everything else may be tragic or funny but the fact is you have no standing to sit on your fat ass and moralize about anyone here because you are a nobody.

See you tomorrow.

Nigga you don't know shit either.

*edit* and I am tired of the emotional blackmail. Fuck you, and fuck that shit. I used to respect alot of people here, but I am not going to say there were three lights.

There were four lights, and the Armbands were blue. Fuck off.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Thought I'd end the day with a compilation of news about foreign volunteers

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The vast majority of the countries are unknown at the moment, but we do know that Belarusians are volunteering for the Ukrainian army

This one's from yesterday (link)

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This other one is from earlier today (link)

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BONUS: Found this from r/VolunteersForUkraine

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By the way, if you want to know about foreign countries' perspectives on allowing their citizens to join Zelensky's International Legion, you can always go here.

Wanna bet half these "volunteers" are NATO forces. These niggas even got production value lmao. The west plays for keeps bro.