Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

So what are the odds that they ban kitsunelaine at the same time when they get aroind to banning Ryulong? He's been a pretty blatent meatpuppet for Ryu on wikipedia, and they do seem to be aware of that. Any chance they save themselves the headache and keep Adam from being a meatpuppet on two sites?

[EDIT]
Adam must think everyone on RW is retarded. The guy who has been helping Ryulong ban evade on wikipedia for almost a year had the balls to say this on the chicken coop page:

And no, I did not actually know Ryulong before I joined this site, as you might expect. I found this place through it's Gamergate article, and I grew a respect for Ryulong's no nonsense attitude towards the disingenuous claims of Gamergaters.

 

[Hellfire]

During the shit-flinging fest that is this latest coop, a RW user mentioned that he had blocked and unblocked Ryulong on another wiki. It was the Digimon Wikia.

http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ryulong?limit=500&target=Ryulong

http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block?page=User:Ryulong (blocked for vandalism, previously blocked for edit warring)

http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong

Michael "Buddyloids" Cohen of all people was fighting over translations there, got blocked for edit warring, got blocked again for fighting over it, and then instead of saying he wouldn't edit war he threatened to come back in a year and make those edits like he did at the Bleach Wikia. (He was blocked for a year there for "Intimidating/abusive behaviour/harassment")

The "normal reading" is of no importance to the context of Digimon. All that's important is that 巡り合いの戦い(クロスウォーズ) is read as "Xros Wars".—Ryulong (琉竜) 23:54, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

That's...not true at all. The series often uses ateji in specific circumstances, not universally, to clarify the meaning of the kana, rather than the other way around. "Xros Wars" is gibberish, because "Xros" is a made-up word. Covering the literal meaning of the under-kanji adds meaning. Whether or not other sites use ruby that way is of no important to us -- we are using it to convey additional information.Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 05:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

You fundamentally misunderstand the intent of furigana (again "ateji" is different). Furigana is meant to give the way the Japanese text is meant to be read in the particular context of this work of fiction. When you see 巡り合いの戦い (クロスウォーズ) it is only supposed to be read as "Kurosu Woozu" (I don't feel like copying the macron O). In the context of Digimon Xros Wars, it is never read as "Meguriai no Tatakai" so it is entirely pointless to provide that text primarily and not "Kurosu Woozu". In your quest to provide complete information you're providing the wrong information.—Ryulong (琉竜) 06:41, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

So just because I got one term wrong I'm automatically ignorant of everything on the issue.

In any case, you were blocked for one week for edit warring. We told you multiple times to not do this. Next time an admin undoes your edits, bring it up on a talk page. Anime... PAAWAA!!! 13:37, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Commit to not edit warring anymore, and you will be immediately unblocked and able to start a forum laying out alternatives. Until you've made the merest token effort to demonstrate that you're not going to go straight back to edit warring the articles, this whole process is on hold.Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 20:03, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

I shouldn't have to read a manga to know how to read Japanese and parse it properly. If 千年魔獣 (ミレニアモン) is what shows up then obviously that's written down but it's Mireniamon and not Sennenmajū. Unless the name of a particular Millenniummon in the manga happens to be Sennenmajū then that's something else entirely (like how Zeromaru is an individual Veedramon). But for something like Roiyaru Naitsu or Kurosu Wozu why fucking bother?

Also, one person's decision to write their name in English one way doesn't affect the entirety of the pronunciation of the language.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:59, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

You'd really think you wouldn't, wouldn't you? But here we are.

• 3,280 results for romanizing "望月" as Mochidzuki
• 383,000 results for romanizing "望月" as Mochizuki

All you're being asked to do is say "I will not continue to edit war."Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 02:48, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

dzu is rare by your own metric. That's 1%, when much of it is affected by archaic forms of transliterating the regular zu.

And there's not really any incentive for me to say anything considering it's only a one week block and I'll tire of this bullshit in 2 more days so long as I don't keep getting notifications you or G-Santos are posting here and then I'll come back a year later and make the same edits but this time have people actually listen to what I have to say, just as happened at w:bleach: over w:bleach:Sui-Feng.—Ryulong (琉竜) 03:13, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

That's unfortunate. Well, the block has been revised accordingly, same rules as ever still apply.Now activating Project: SPIDERS EVERYWHERE 04:21, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

I did repeatedly tell you that I would gladly argue pointlessly in whatever forum you wanted two days ago though. But be that way Kryten. Fuck up your wiki over semantics.—Ryulong (琉竜) 05:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

Adam must think everyone on RW is retarded. The guy who has been helping Ryulong ban evade on wikipedia for almost a year had the balls to say this on the chicken coop page:

Adam made his 'Kitsunelaine' RW account and Wikipedia account on the same day. 10 days later, he was officially meat puppeting for Cohen on Wikipedia (although in all honesty he was probably proxy editing from the get-go since he was fucking around editing templates and shit newbies wouldn't touch) by reverting 'buddyroid' back to Cohen's 'buddyloid.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Energy_Management_Center&diff=prev&oldid=668231100

Adam, no doubt coached by Ryulong, tried to make his accounts look legit by getting rid of the red talk/user page links as his first actions. He made a total of one BS edit on RW before fucking off until October when he and Cohen teamed up to stir up shit on the My Little Pony article.

 

[WhoopieDoo]

Sadly, no. He has plenty of white knights there to defend him, many of them higher up.

It's really sad seeing how far the site has fallen. if you didn't see the usernames on the coop page I could've sworn I was on Conservapedia given the way they're all behaving.

To be fair, the origins of the site was to be some kind of parody of Conservapedia, not that big a surprise it's become less of a parody and more of a "same shit different day" scenario.

I also disagree about it being sad since I can't recall any instance where its existence was really necessary or more informative vs. other sources.

Hi, RationalWiki editor here. I hope you don't mind me posting here.

I've been reading through this thread, and I think if you judge RationalWiki *only* on Ryulong and the pages he edits you get a bit of a one-sided picture of the entire site.

RationalWiki is primarily a site for skeptics. It started as a response to Conserverpedia, but has long ago grown into a general skeptic site.

Pages on topics such as Autism omnibus trial , Homeopathy, and many other subjects are really not that bad. It offers a lighter and less boring read than Wikipedia, and a mostly comprehensive overview from a skeptical point of view on these topics. Whether this is "more informative vs. other sources" is of course debatable. I've been editing on RW for a while (more than a year but not many years), and found it to be one of the better skeptic resources.

I find it sad to see that Ryulong and his antics have become the primary focus of attention for so many people, when the site is about much more and, and this is hardly representative for all of RationalWiki :-(

 

[chimpburgers]

Hi, RationalWiki editor here. I hope you don't mind me posting here.

I've been reading through this thread, and I think if you judge RationalWiki *only* on Ryulong and the pages he edits you get a bit of a one-sided picture of the entire site.

RationalWiki is primarily a site for skeptics. It started as a response to Conserverpedia, but has long ago grown into a general skeptic site.

Pages on topics such as Autism omnibus trial , Homeopathy, and many other subjects are really not that bad. It offers a lighter and less boring read than Wikipedia, and a mostly comprehensive overview from a skeptical point of view on these topics. Whether this is "more informative vs. other sources" is of course debatable. I've been editing on RW for a while (more than a year but not many years), and found it to be one of the better skeptic resources.

I find it sad to see that Ryulong and his antics have become the primary focus of attention for so many people, when the site is about much more and, and this is hardly representative for all of RationalWiki :-(

Hello there. Welcome to the Farms. I suggest that you make your case in this thread that we have about RationalWiki.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rationalwiki-whiny-hugbox-for-spergs.14720/page-9

Even if Ryulong was an editor for another site or if his political views were different, I still wouldn't like him for other reasons. His behavior has been appalling by any standard and he's the kind of person that won't learn from any of his past mistakes or pointless arguments with others.

 

[RepQuest]

Yeah, it's a bit rich to go around calling a site that's so heavily biased and quashes all dissent "skeptic."

 

[WhoopieDoo]

Even if Ryulong was an editor for another site, I still wouldn't like him for other reasons. His behavior has been appalling by any standard and he's the kind of person that won't learn from any of his past mistakes or pointless arguments with others.

Oh, don't get me wrong: Ryulong is an insufferable asshole and I hope this running coop case results in him never visiting RW again. He has done more damage to RW's community and reputation than anyone else.

 

[chimpburgers]

Oh, don't get me wrong: Ryulong is an insufferable asshole and I hope this running coop case results in him never visiting RW again. He has done more damage to RW's community and reputation than anyone else.

I'm glad we could find some common ground on that point.

 

[WhoopieDoo]

Yeah, it's a bit rich to go around calling a site that's so heavily biased and quashes all dissent "skeptic."

RW isn't neutral, but "heavily biased" is probably a bit much. Why do you think that?

I've certainly never seen "quashes all dissent" happen, except perhaps by Ryulong and his cronies; but my point was that this is only a small part of the site.

 

[chimpburgers]

RW isn't neutral, but "heavily biased" is probably a bit much. Why do you think that?

I've certainly never seen "quashes all dissent" happen, except perhaps by Ryulong and his cronies; but my point was that this is only a small part of the site.

How would you evaluate RW's Sargon of Akkad article for example and what people were trying to explain in the discussion page for it? That might be an example of why people take so much issue with RW.

 

[Hellfire]

The manchild calling himself Hipocrite - another one of Ryulong's meat puppets who thinks Brianna Wu is not trans - showed up and began sperging out. He started whining that anyone opposing Ryulong was Gamergate or bronies and told them all to go fuck themselves, then tried to derail the coop and get Mona and Aneris banned instead. He was desysopped and blocked for an hour for his sperg out, he immediately tried to make a sock account and that got blocked by Mona, resulting in him trying to file a retaliatory coop case against Mona and Carpetsmoker. Hipocrite's tantrum and the Ryulong coop were both thrown out with no action by AgingHippie. (EDIT: Carpetsmoker has reverted the archive of the Ryulong case to try and get a solution for the Ryulong problem)

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki:Chicken_coop&oldid=1583888

Oh boo hoo, the gators are mad that they can't run Ryulong off on a rail. Go fuck yourselves, really. Hipocrite (talk) 17:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Says the fellow who last summer assured me that no I/P-related edits can be made at this wiki unless one agrees that "Israel is great." You were wrong then and you are wrong now. I'm not a "gator," and in fact was drawn to RW largely because of the Gamergate entry. My endorsement of doing something meaningful about Ryu is in spite of his Gamergate article.---Mona- (talk) 17:50, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Go fuck yourself, Mona, really. Is there a timeframe to your upcoming flounce off? PS: You're misrepresenting me because you're too stupid to understand what I wrote - get on my level. Hipocrite (talk) 17:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

"Go fuck yourself, Mona, really" Ah, very helpful, that. The fact remains that you were wrong then, and you are wrong now. Your judgment has a poor track record. And are you not the user who called me a "cunt?"---Mona- (talk) 17:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

No, you halfwit, your senses have taken leave of you again. Apologize, now. (Here's not-me calling you a cunt, you stupid piece of garbage [5])Hipocrite (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

On the page you linked, there are 3 occurences of the word cunt: "Castaigne" used it against Fake-BoN, Mona quotes it and CorruptUser objects to the use of the word "cunt" as a swearword, so at least on this page, no-one called Mona a cunt.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 18:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Somewone did, it may have been Castaigne. Or you -- I don't recall. That's why I asked. In any event, you have very poor judgment, and were as wrong about I/P editing as you are here.---Mona- (talk) 18:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Fuck you, Mona, apologize now or get the fuck out. You lied about what I said. Chop chop, garbage. Hipocrite (talk) 18:03, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Do not call people Garbage. Stop. Now. --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 18:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't constantly act in a way which feeds them and makes me even more of a target, thats for sure. Reading their comments on him, half the reason they even go after him is solely because his personality makes him the perfect targetwho won't stop feeding them. And his history of being a bad community member extends far before GG ever started --"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 18:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Is that "talk shit get hit," or "he harassed himself," or "it's the internet, deal with it" or "it's not really harassment?" I can't keep up with my Gator catchphrases. Hipocrite (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't know as I'm not a gator, but try again someday--"Paravant" Talk & Contribs 18:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Are we voting here? Why are the options to ban Mona and Aneris being prevented from consideration? Hipocrite (talk) 18:24, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Because that is an idiotic Tu quoque. The discussion here is about Ryulong. Stop pulling from the playbook of everyone who ever harassed Ryulong on wikipedia.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Surely must be coincidence that all of Cohen's online friends seem to be unhinged loons, eh?

 

[WhoopieDoo]

How would you evaluate RW's Sargon of Akkad article for example and what people were trying to explain in the discussion page for it? That might be an example of why people take so much issue with RW.

This is what I meant with "Ryulong and his cronies"; I don't know a lot about "Sargon of Akkad" or any "Social Justice" stuff. It's simply not what I'm interested in. A cursory glance, however, does reveal the pages are rather one-sided. How one-sided I don't know, as I don't know enough about the topic at hand.

If you ask me, all that should just be removed from RW as it doesn't really relate to RW's mission (exposing pseudoscience).
That doesn't mean that it's not important, by the way, just that RW is not the best place to deal with this. There's sjwiki.org (which is *very* one-sided) and probably other places.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that these sort of pages are only a small percentage of RWs total amount of pages; and that judging *all* of RW *only* on these pages is probably not entirely fair.

 

[chimpburgers]

This is what I meant with "Ryulong and his cronies"; I don't know a lot about "Sargon of Akkad" or any "Social Justice" stuff. It's simply not what I'm interested in. A cursory glance, however, does reveal the pages are rather one-sided. How one-sided I don't know, as I don't know enough about the topic at hand.

If you ask me, all that should just be removed from RW as it doesn't really relate to RW's mission (exposing pseudoscience).
That doesn't mean that it's not important, by the way, just that RW is not the best place to deal with this. There's sjwiki.org (which is *very* one-sided) and probably other places.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that these sort of pages are only a small percentage of RWs total amount of pages; and that judging *all* of RW *only* on these pages is probably not entirely fair.

I'd respect RW more that way to be honest. I still think a lot of the articles debunking bad science have a lot of good info in them. You've given me a lot to think about and I appreciate that. The only reason I bring up Sargon of Akkad was because reading that article just made me think of one of those cultish circlejerks on YouTube who are obsessed with branding anyone like him or Thunderf00t as being absolutely evil and all this crazy shit. I don't even care about both of them much at all, just bringing that point up.

 

[WhoopieDoo]

I'd respect RW more that way to be honest.

So would I ... :-/ There are a few users who care about this and are mostly reasonable, and there is a small group of users who care about this and lack any form of reason; Ryulong is the worst of them, but there are others.

Personally, I prefer to mostly "just ignore it", except "defend" RW a bit sometimes on sites like this. Perhaps that's a bit lame, but I don't have any interest engaging myself in endless discussions about topics which I don't really care about... :-/

 

[chimpburgers]

So would I ... :-/ There are a few users who care about this and are mostly reasonable, and there is a small group of users who care about this and lack any form of reason; Ryulong is the worst of them, but there are others.

Personally, I prefer to mostly "just ignore it", except "defend" RW a bit sometimes on sites like this. Perhaps that's a bit lame, but I don't have any interest engaging myself in endless discussions about topics which I don't really care about... :-/

Let's just focus on what we all have in common. Knowing that Ryulong is a massive douche no matter what our opinions of RW may be. I think that's a common bond uniting all of us together at the moment. I hope you'll stay and explore some of the other threads we have here. You'll find that we cover both insane loveshies and MRAs and insane SJWs and provide a lot of coverage for both.

 

[Judge Holden]

This is what I meant with "Ryulong and his cronies"; I don't know a lot about "Sargon of Akkad" or any "Social Justice" stuff. It's simply not what I'm interested in. A cursory glance, however, does reveal the pages are rather one-sided. How one-sided I don't know, as I don't know enough about the topic at hand.

If you ask me, all that should just be removed from RW as it doesn't really relate to RW's mission (exposing pseudoscience).
That doesn't mean that it's not important, by the way, just that RW is not the best place to deal with this. There's sjwiki.org (which is *very* one-sided) and probably other places.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that these sort of pages are only a small percentage of RWs total amount of pages; and that judging *all* of RW *only* on these pages is probably not entirely fair.

Hello fellow Rationalwiki alumni. Once used to edit there under "Judge Holden" a while before the SJW shit really began to set in.

All I have to ask is how does it feel to have the "left wing" version of Ken D Meyer using the site as his personal latrine?

Because I have to say, it is a beautiful irony that a site set up to critique authoritarian horseshit justified by dishonest and emotion-based demagoguery ends up falling victim to the same shit itself

Not trying to be mean, but srsly. Dafuq happened?

 

[Asuka]

I got mad respect for Ryulong here, fighting the good fight to keep crappy weeaboo translations a part of Wikis everywhere!!

Spoiler

Seriously, fighting over a Power Rangers term for more than a year now? This guy must've gotten the shit beat out of him in high school.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Spoiler

Seriously, fighting over a Power Rangers term for more than a year now?

Actually it will have been four years as of January.

 

[Asuka]

Thanks, I sort of just skimmed here and there. To me this dude isn't that interesting because he's another typical assclown who doesn't understand the word "no". I'm sure we've all met many people in our lives that are like this. They'll argue with you over the most minor shit and never let it die until you admit they're right AND THEN you have to kiss their ass a few more times just to get on their good side again. Ryulong's a douche bag, but the true idiots are the people at RW or any other wiki that has thought about banning him but still haven't due to either not wanting to suffer his "wrath" or having some itty bitty sympathy for him. You can't cure this kind of arrogance, this guy needs to learn that fighting over "Buddyloid" is not worth shit. Ironically TOTW and that Transformers wiki are the only places that has done this.

So yeah, he might be a lolcow but his schtick gets old pretty fast and we should really be laughing at the dumbasses at RW for not canning him.

 

[AnOminous]

The point I was trying to make earlier is that these sort of pages are only a small percentage of RWs total amount of pages; and that judging *all* of RW *only* on these pages is probably not entirely fair.

This is a lolcow site, it is naturally going to focus on the fuckups and idiots at the site, and the funny, stupid shit they do.

I do know after looking at this that RW is a site where an editor can repeatedly call another editor things like "cunt" and "garbage" and harass them over bullshit, and apparently, only the "garbage" part gets called out.

None of this shit would be tolerated on any half-reputable wiki. People who acted like that would be out on their ass.

This guy must've gotten the shit beat out of him in high school.

One can only hope.

 

[DrJonesHat]

We have his spergery on RW cataloged for us to marvel at, but do we have any information about his offline dealings? I'm curious as to what this asshole does for money. I'm also curious how he acts when he's not in a position of authority.