Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
  • Total voters
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Sounds like the Americans found their oil deal. One door closes another opens.
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Null said:
ah good, we're in that stage of thread death where people just intentionally post nonsense because they hold actual discussion in utter contempt.
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If only there were actual shit to discuss.

I've been warching livestreams of Kyiyiyiyiyiv for weeks, expecting to see fire fall in real time, only to be treated to the humming of traffic and A/C units.
 
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Hitman One said:
Even in a country as shit and miserable as Russia I don't believe that the Spetnaz were kicking your door in and killing your dog because you hadn't paid for your WinRAR licence regardless of what the law says.
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Businesses in Russia have had strict compliance practices in the past 10 years or so where anyone who worked at an office or on "corporate" PC's that were property of the business, you couldn't have any torrents, any pirated software, etc, because there was real risk of an audit taking place and big fines being paid if you were found to be illegally using pirated shit.

TurkishOreo said:
Shell - Anal - Star - Jet
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Is this a magic spell?
 
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UVB-76 said:
Don't make me bring up 30 year old interviews about how flawed the A-10 is at a conceptual level.
Q: Did the war have any effect on the Air Force’s view of the A-10

A: No. People misread that. People were saying that airplanes are too sophisticated and that they wouldn’t work in the desert, that you didn’t need all this high technology, that simple and reliable was better, and all that.

Well, first of all, complex does not mean unreliable. We’re finding that out. For example, you have a watch that uses transistors rather than a spring. It’s infinitely more reliable than the windup watch that you had years ago. That’s what we’re finding in the airplanes.

Those people . . . were always championing the A-10. As the A-10 reaches the end of its life cycle– and it’s approaching that now–it’s time to replace it, just like we replace every airplane, including, right now, some early versions of the F-16.

Since the line was discontinued, [the A-10’s champions] want to build another A-10 of some kind. The point we were making was that we have F-16s that do the same job.

Then you come to people who have their own reasons-good reasons to them, but they don’t necessarily compute to me-who want to hang onto the A-10 because of the gun. Well, the gun’s an excellent weapon, but you’ll find that most of the tank kills by the A-10 were done with Mavericks and bombs. So the idea that the gun is the absolute wonder of the world is not true.

Q: This conflict has shown that

A: It shows that the gun has a lot of utility, which we always knew, but it isn’t the principal tank-killer on the A-IO. The [Imaging Infrared] Maverick is the big hero there. That was used by the A-10s and the F-16s very, very effectively in places like Khafji.

The other problem is that the A-10 is vulnerable to hits because its speed is limited. It’s a function of thrust, it’s not a function of anything else. We had a lot of A-10s take a lot of ground fire hits. Quite frankly, we pulled the A-10s back from going up around the Republican Guard and kept them on Iraq’s [less formidable] front-line units. That’s line if you have a force that allows you to do that. In this case, we had F-16s to go after the Republican Guard.

Q: At what point did you do that

A: I think I had fourteen airplanes sitting on the ramp having battle damage repaired, and I lost two A- 10s in one day [February 15], and I said, “I’ve had enough of this.” It was when we really started to go after the Republican Guard.
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A-10 has BURRRTTTTTTTTTTTT, whatever this colonel said is null and void, sneed.

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LaxerBRO said:
Case in point is why we pushing Poland to give Ukraine their Soviet fighter jets. The act is not to help the Ukrainians as they are predestined to lose. The goal is to make Poland more reliant on the United States defense contractors and to the extent European ones.

All those surplus F-15's and F-16's will need trained pilots, weapons systems, and avionics services. No cheap Soviet era surplus for you. Get ready to pay $250,000 per missile and $500 per round of ammo
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It's worth every penny seeing as you'll probably be able to complete your mission and survive in those compared to most of the Soviet trash planes they have now.
 
MeltyTW said:
theyd have to send out hundreds of millions of their own currency though to pay it off in their monopoly money.
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BradCarter said:
I think that's the point of the decree. If they borrowed 100 mil rubles, they now get to pay back 100 mil rubles instead of the actual value of the debt.
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Yeah this is the point. They get to keep foreign currency for international trade, and money printer goes brrr and gives rubles to (((usurers))) that is worthless.

But like Swift, this is a zero day exploit. One use only, for the oy vey will notice. Another sign that Russia isn't holding back.
 
BradCarter said:
I think that's the point of the decree. If they borrowed 100 mil rubles, they now get to pay back 100 mil rubles instead of the actual value of the debt.
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They could just not accept the pittance of an offer no? Or just shred the currency as toilet paper to mock them and decrease
Male Idiot said:
Yeah this is the point. They get to keep foreign currency for international trade, and money printer goes brrr and gives rubles to (((usurers))) that is worthless.

But like Swift, this is a zero day exploit. One use only, for the oy vey will notice. Another sign that Russia isn't holding back.
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They can't hold back because all their assets are being taken, we could however literally starve the Russian people if we so choose
 
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