Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Interestingly, the Russians seem to be completely avoiding moving into Galicia/Western Ukraine.
They would seem to have their hands more than full at the moment with their current objectives. The Ukraine side constantly seems to expect an attack on Odessa which would be the first logical move into Western Ukraine.
But we don't (IMO) still know exactly what their overall plan is on the Russian side. As people have pointed out in the past, they might be willing to live with a landlocked and economically doomed "new" Ukraine west of the Dnieper. But their actions are not rational and anything is possible.
 
Chinkshit is amazing in general, you spend a bit of time touring their wares and come away with something the same qualilty as genuine but much cheaper.
Still can't find a decent A-2 Flight Jacket from them. Some guy in Pakistan makes the jackets for cheap but they're still relatively expensive.
 
They would seem to have their hands more than full at the moment with their current objectives. The Ukraine side constantly seems to expect an attack on Odessa which would be the first logical move into Western Ukraine.
But we don't (IMO) still know exactly what their overall plan is on the Russian side. As people have pointed out in the past, they might be willing to live with a landlocked and economically doomed "new" Ukraine west of the Dnieper. But their actions are not rational and anything is possible.
Taking the enemy capitol remains the best propaganda victory they could achieve short term.
 
It's been like 4 days, Big 40 mile convoy has stayed put with some drone strikes on it nothing is moving, the maps that come on the Russian side say Kyiv is practically surrounded, why is there not military action? I would at least expect to see some bombings on the outskirts of the city where there are sandbags and trenches.
My guess is that it's because the minute they go in they're looking at 500-1,000 casualties a day and wholesale slaughter of civilians. Not that they care much about either, but if it turns into a gigantic quagmire there might actually be real trouble for Putin. He's hoping he can bully his way to get what he wants in negotiations.
 
You can't make this shit up!

"The son of a soldier of the #AZOV regiment, who’s currently defending #Mariupol, recorded an appeal to Ukrainians. He’s 8 y.o. and that’s how long his father, Stepan, has been in the war. Today in Ukraine everyone is fighting for freedom. #StopRussia #UkraineRussiaWar"
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Imagine if some kid did this in America and wanted to defend his family and nation, the screeching by libtards and woke progressives and all those gun control groups would be reeeing for eternity.

Oh wait there was one.

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"Russia is a big tyrannical bully destroying all of Ukraine guys, but Ukraine's actually beating the shit out of them and has killed approx. 25,000,000 Russian troops every hour, but they're in really bad shape so we need to keep these sanctions on Russia and send more fighter jets to Ukraine, but it's okay, Ukraine's totally wiping the floor with Russia and Russia has run out of trucks, tanks, fuel, planes, and men, so hurry up and volunteer and donate because without us Ukraine falls!" - Expert sources

I was thinking you know.

Remember when Reagan's neocon cocksuckers like Donald Rumsfeld were fear mongering over the Soviets being super duper dangerous and bad and were like the "Evil Empire" just so they could increase the military defense budget.

How would those cocksuckers and chickenhawks be able to scare the public in today's era when pictures are coming out of the Russian Military using FUCKING HIPPY VANS to invade other nations. I mean sure defend America and all that but pretty hard to reconcile super advanced evil empire with this shit.

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The uniparty would have to make sure the media never shows this to the American people lol.
 
Well, there's this:
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Also, while using LOTR as an analogy is as retarded as Harry Potter/Star Wars/Marvel, I think less people would get it, so it may not be equally good as a propaganda tool.
Gondor didn’t have to pretend it was winning on twitter, and it’s also a madeup place.
 
How would those cocksuckers and chickenhawks be able to scare the public in today's era when pictures are coming out of the Russian Military using FUCKING HIPPY VANS to invade other nations. I mean sure defend America and all that but pretty hard to reconcile super advanced evil empire with this shit.

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I mean it's an ambulance, what kind of vehicle would you even want for something like that?
 
Imagine if some kid did this in America and wanted to defend his family and nation, the screeching by libtards and woke progressives and all those gun control groups would be reeeing for eternity.

Oh wait there was one.

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I was thinking you know.

Remember when Reagan's neocon cocksuckers like Donald Rumsfeld were fear mongering over the Soviets being super duper dangerous and bad and were like the "Evil Empire" just so they could increase the military defense budget.

How would those cocksuckers and chickenhawks be able to scare the public in today's era when pictures are coming out of the Russian Military using FUCKING HIPPY VANS to invade other nations. I mean sure defend America and all that but pretty hard to reconcile super advanced evil empire with this shit.

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The uniparty would have to make sure the media never shows this to the American people lol.
They're still doing it today, by saying the Chinese have a whole smorgasbord of Wunderwaffen to choose from that the US will be utterly defenseless against, unless the Pentagon gets mo' money fo dem Programs.
 
It's been like 4 days, Big 40 mile convoy has stayed put with some drone strikes on it nothing is moving, the maps that come on the Russian side say Kyiv is practically surrounded, why is there not military action? I would at least expect to see some bombings on the outskirts of the city where there are sandbags and trenches.
Its difficult to get any accurate information (IMO) about the fighting in the region around Kiev. There could well be military operations going on and fighting on the edges of the city, but if no one is there to report it or is allowed to report it, it didn't happen.
 
You can't make this shit up!

"The son of a soldier of the #AZOV regiment, who’s currently defending #Mariupol, recorded an appeal to Ukrainians. He’s 8 y.o. and that’s how long his father, Stepan, has been in the war. Today in Ukraine everyone is fighting for freedom. #StopRussia #UkraineRussiaWar"
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"Ukraine's not using children and civilians to fight Russia, that's false."
Meanwhile:
 
California has oil? Or more broadly, California has anything exportable that isn't crime, smog, fire, degeneracy, Big Tech, and AIDS?
Like another kiwi posted, the environmentalists killed it. And it's not just California that has petroleum, Texas for example and then of course fracking is a thing. There are grades of crude and California doesn't have the best, sweet crude, with little to no sulfur. It's more expensive to refine (and the left shut down refineries in Cali as well) but California has more than enough to meet its needs as well as the rest of the country.

The left loves this, it only helps them carry out their electric car and solar panel green energy grift, Putin is a blessing in disguise.
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My guess is that it's because the minute they go in they're looking at 500-1,000 casualties a day and wholesale slaughter of civilians. Not that they care much about either, but if it turns into a gigantic quagmire there might actually be real trouble for Putin. He's hoping he can bully his way to get what he wants in negotiations.
Or because those demands would fulfill Russia's strategic goals in this war.

It's weird how there's a contingent of people saying that Putin is a warmonger bent on conquering Europe and then when relatively reasonable non-warmongerish demands come out, it can only be because Russia is on the verge of collapse because Putin is a warmonger bent on conquering Europe.

It must be very reassuring to have totally unfalsifiable beliefs.
 
My guess is that it's because the minute they go in they're looking at 500-1,000 casualties a day and wholesale slaughter of civilians. Not that they care much about either,
The Russians have obviously been trying to limit civilian causalities and I think it's because they do care about the innocent people caught in the middle. Which is more than you could say for the Jewish puppet who will soon be executed after a show trial.
 
How would those cocksuckers and chickenhawks be able to scare the public in today's era when pictures are coming out of the Russian Military using FUCKING HIPPY VANS to invade other nations. I mean sure defend America and all that but pretty hard to reconcile super advanced evil empire with this shit.

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The uniparty would have to make sure the media never shows this to the American people lol.
They've been making those shitbox UAZ vans almost completely unchanged since the early 1950s I think. "Buchanka" is the ruskie nickname for them, roughly translates to something like bread box iirc. Fairly certain you could still get one with a carbureted motor up until a few years ago.
 
Remember when Reagan's neocon cocksuckers like Donald Rumsfeld were fear mongering over the Soviets being super duper dangerous and bad and were like the "Evil Empire" just so they could increase the military defense budget.
That's how pretty much all war propaganda goes, it simultaneously massively underestimates and overestimates the enemy. Underestimates to get morale up and make people think you're crushing it ("The much-battered enemy continues his cowardly advance"), overestimates to make sure people don't complain about giving you more and more money, resources, and lives (If we don't fight, we're all gonna die).
 
They've been making those shitbox UAZ vans almost completely unchanged since the early 1950s I think. "Buchanka" is the ruskie nickname for them, roughly translates to something like bread box iirc. Fairly certain you could still get one with a carbureted motor up until a few years ago.
"Rye bread loaf", actually. They're uncomfortable as hell (shock absorbers? What are those?) but literally unkillable and can be jury-rigged with a shoestring, a leather waistbelt and a prayer.
 
That's how pretty much all war propaganda goes, it simultaneously massively underestimates and overestimates the enemy. Underestimates to get morale up and make people think you're crushing it ("The much-battered enemy continues his cowardly advance"), overestimates to make sure people don't complain about giving you more and more money, resources, and lives (If we don't fight, we're all gonna die).
Just look at how the left treats Trump. Always painting him as an evil mastermind and a complete idiot at the same time.
 
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