Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Yes but if your firing from an apartment building then that makes that apartment building a valid target. Goes back to using your fellow country men civilians as nothing but human meat shields and propaganda when their shit gets blown up.
I was under the impression that these apartments had already been evacuated.
 
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No-one blames the baltics for joining NATO, Americans and Western Europeans just reasonably questioning why NATO is risking a nuclear holocaust for the sake of a few million crypto-Finns
Nuclear proliferation. Pure and simple. The choice all the ex soviets states had post USSR was getting security guarantees from America or building their own nuclear weapons. France and the UK having Nukes was already considered an issue. Germany, Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics having nukes was a nightmare for the big brains that run the game theory algorithm.

Long story short, MAD deterrence only works in a game with as few players as possible. Preferably two (which is the most stable). The movie "wargames" masterfully portrayed it by likening it to a game of tic tac toe. Two players, evenly matched in ability could never defeat each other. The best they could hope for is a costly draw. Which meant the only winning move is not to play at all.

But in a game with say, 10 players, there are too many variables and too much distrust. Eventually one of the players goes off the reservation, triggering the apocalypse. NATO expansion was done precisely to prevent this very thing from happening. Putin is Half Right, in that it was definitely aimed at containing Russia. The other half though was the USA knew all the former Soviet States had zero faith Russia would stay in their corner and if they didn't get security guarantees they would go nuclear. It's not THAT hard to do. Any shit hole can do it, just ask North Korea. The Baltic States absolutely could have. Especially Lithuania who still has old Soviet nuclear reactors. They could have built a weapon in a year tops and parked it on a short range rocket outside Kaliningrad.

The irony of this war is that the worst fears of these countries are realized and even with expressed US support they may very well develop nuclear weapons anyway.
 
OSINtechnical fairly certain Gen. Vitaly Gerassimov is dead,
They are quoting the same tweet that was already quoted above as their source. It's just circular reporting.
They don't even have the decency to use telegram?
That's why it seems sus. They have a cellphone then they have access to at least somewhat secure telegram.
I am not saying he is dead or alive. Just that Ukraines are running a large psyop to demoralize the enemy. And saying all their fellow troops and leaders are dead is an effective tactic especially when you know they wont respond because of OPSEC.



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I heard they had big problems with shitty Chinese parts.
I'm 100% willing to believe it. A lot of the older trucks would be running stuff that's not super common anymore, like distributors and carburetors and junk. The Chinese are the only ones that remanufacture vintage combustion engine components. If you need something from a mid 50s Chevy to a late 80s Austrian moped, China has you covered.

The caveat is that the manufacturing is terrible. Replaced an Austrian points system from 1970 with a seemingly identical Chinese one. The Austrian one was gapped once every 1000 miles maybe. The Chinese one I had to regap every 50 to 70km because there was so much slop in the threads.
 
They are quoting the same tweet that was already quoted above as their source. It's just circular reporting.

That's why it seems sus. They have a cellphone then they have access to at least somewhat secure telegram.
Less joking, I've never met a Russian who uses Whatsapp over telegram. On top of this, Russia literally accused Facebook over violating human rights for being pro-Ukrainian or something. I highly doubt they'd be using a Facebook property for shit.

And I'm sure Hunter Biden was using telegram to work his contacts in Ukraine while establishing the biolabs.
 
Hey guys, did you know KF is being ‘monitored’ by this guy


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who monitors disinformation on the Web? (Here he’s talking about Russian propaganda/disinfo on Ukraine and who is spreading/magnifying it.)
yo doctor bitch, make sure you put me in in your next tactical infoshot
and speaking of biological infections tell your mom and your wife I'm gonna be a little late stopping by this Friday, I got some shit to do before them
 
I thought that biolab stuff was just some tinfoil hat shit, but this ching chong chink being so concerned about biolabs I'm starting to wonder about biolabs.
Did Hunter Biden and Ivanka Kushner-Trump actually have anythign to do with these biolabs? Did joe's whore wife Jill actually get some chemicals to keep zombie Joe alive from some biolab in ukraine? I mean, it makes sense. Are the Ukrainian neo-nazi jooos actually bombing their own biolabs? Is all the papers that were burned on the first couple days actually outlining the biolab stuff?
 
Unironically as soon as the advance started to stall it turned into one. The one hope for a 'somewhat' stable, Pro-Russia Ukraine puppet government was the blitzkrieg decapitation strike to succeed. As soon as Ukraine got enough time for it's population to have a rally around the flag effect that hope was over and a puppet government would be too unstable to have long term success.
We have no idea if it has stalled or not, since we don't know what their military objectives (instead of their political objectives) are, and everybody is straight up lying (Ukies now swearing they've killed 11,000 Russians, for example, which is bullshit).

The Russians came in light and not obviously set up to do a traditional war of conquest or even a "decapitation strike" (which I don't think they've ever publicly mentioned). Kiev is - was - a city of 3 million people, so there's no possibility of a decapitation strike without murdering thousands - maybe tens of thousands, or more - of innocent civilians. Which would defeat Russian political objectives, and maybe pull in Nato like Zelensky's been increasingly panicked in demanding.

It looks like the situation on the ground is the Russians are grinding their way towards complete control over the country, its coastline, its critical infrastructure, and the access routes around its major cities, while taking some losses from Ukie resistance. Maybe not as quickly as they expected, but it's a steamroller and not a blitzkrieg. They're also regularly talking to the Ukies, offering terms - none of those terms include surrendering the Ukrainian government or submitting to Russian rule, according to both parties.

If the Russians expected to walk in and install a puppet government, that was dumb. I don't think that was the plan tho - they're aware that Ukies and their Western sponsors won't accept a satellite regime reporting to Moscow, and there's no way of getting that to work while also having an "independent" Donbass. I think they're looking to put Ukraine into an arm lock until they tap out, the US accepts a smaller Ukraine that isn't part or de facto part of Nato and therefore won't be used as a FOB against Russia for military ops and color revolution games, and the Russians withdraw behind the new borders.

Time isn't on Russia's side, but it's not on Zelensky's side either. Neither can afford this to drag out indefinitely. But the Russians can probably, once they've encircled Kiev, camp out and wait to get what they want for longer than Zelensky can maintain a functioning government. That's where the desperation to pull in Nato comes from, with demands for no fly zones (which would instantly mean a Nato-Russia war), escalating war porn on the news, and not very subtle attempts to bait Russian troops into committing atrocities. Desperate people are dangerous, so this could get bumpy over the next week.
 
I thought that biolab stuff was just some tinfoil hat shit, but this ching chong chink being so concerned about biolabs I'm starting to wonder about biolabs.
Did Hunter Biden and Ivanka Kushner-Trump actually have anythign to do with these biolabs? Did joe's whore wife Jill actually get some chemicals to keep zombie Joe alive from some biolab in ukraine? I mean, it makes sense. Are the Ukrainian neo-nazi jooos actually bombing their own biolabs? Is all the papers that were burned on the first couple days actually outlining the biolab stuff?
This makes sense on why Ukraine tolerates Azov. If you want someone to perform unethical experiments in a biolab they should either be a Nazi or a Jap

Incase you are manually checking mined info: You're a chink faggot. Do a backflip off a bridge to restore honor to your family
 
1) Bioluminescent alphabet niggers
2) Niggers
3) Ukrainian niggers
4) Russian niggers

Hope that helps.
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The only good character in all of gook entertainment is Android 18. Besides her all of anime is useless chink propoganda. I regret that my parents let me watch captain planet (cosmopolitan bullshit) and sailor moon (ching chong horseshit).
HAVE A FUCKING HEART ATTACK WHILE YOURE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES YOU FUCKING CHINK
SHOOT ALL THE 452 ASIANS. SHOOT ALL THE KIKES TOO. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN PROGRAMMERS AND STUDENTS AND ENTERTAINERS. HUNT ASIANS LIKE RATS. HUNT ALL THE ASIANS OUT. KILL EVERY CHINK. HUNT THE CHINKS OUT OF COLLEGES. BOMB THE AUDITORIUM. BOMB THE GYM. BOMB EVERYTHING SO NO ONE WANTS TO GO ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. BOMB EVERYTHING SO OFTEN AND SO RANDOMLY THAT NO WHERE IS SAFE.NIGGER kill all the kikes. NIGGER kill all the chink-mongoloids. NIGGER kill all the red-mongoloids. NIGGER kill all of the kike-ottomans. NIGGER kill all of the crackers. NIGGER kill all of the children of other tribes. KILL ALL THEIR KIDS. KILL POLITICIANS DON’T ELECT THEM ANYMORE. KILL ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE. KILL EVERYONE WHO IS NOT A NIGGER. KILL ALL THE CIVILIANS. KILL THIS CIVILIZATION. KILL WHITE CIVILIZATION. STOP SHARING EARTH. STOP SHARING LIFE. DETONATE EVERY BOMB, PLANT EVERY KNIFE INTO A BODY. BURN EVERY TEMPLE. BURN EVERY WHITE CHURCH. SHOOT EVERY MAYER WHO IS ASIAN. SHOOT ALL ASIAN POLITICIANS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN STOREOWNERS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN BUSINESSOWNERS AND LAWYERS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIANS. SHOOT ALL THE KIKES TOO. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN PROGRAMMERS AND STUDENTS AND ENTERTAINERS. HUNT ASIANS LIKE RATS. HUNT ALL THE ASIANS OUT. KILL EVERY CHINK. HUNT THE CHINKS OUT OF COLLEGES. BOMB THE AUDITORIUM. BOMB THE GYM. BOMB EVERYTHING SO NO ONE WANTS TO GO ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. BOMB EVERYTHING SO OFTEN AND SO RANDOMLY THAT NO WHERE IS SAFE.NIGGER kill all the kikes. NIGGER kill all the chink-mongoloids. NIGGER kill all the red-mongoloids. NIGGER kill all of the kike-ottomans. NIGGER kill all of the crackers. NIGGER kill all of the children of other tribes. KILL ALL THEIR KIDS. KILL POLITICIANS DON’T ELECT THEM ANYMORE. KILL ALL THE FAMOUS PEOPLE. KILL EVERYONE WHO IS NOT A NIGGER. KILL ALL THE CIVILIANS. KILL THIS CIVILIZATION. KILL WHITE CIVILIZATION. STOP SHARING EARTH. STOP SHARING LIFE. DETONATE EVERY BOMB, PLANT EVERY KNIFE INTO A BODY. BURN EVERY TEMPLE. BURN EVERY WHITE CHURCH. SHOOT EVERY MAYER WHO IS ASIAN. SHOOT ALL ASIAN POLITICIANS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN STOREOWNERS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN BUSINESSOWNERS AND LAWYERS. SHOOT ALL THE ASIANS. SHOOT ALL THE KIKES TOO. SHOOT ALL THE ASIAN PROGRAMMERS AND STUDENTS AND ENTERTAINERS. HUNT ASIANS LIKE RATS. HUNT ALL THE ASIANS OUT. KILL EVERY CHINK. HUNT THE CHINKS OUT OF COLLEGES. BOMB THE AUDITORIUM. BOMB THE GYM. BOMB EVERYTHING SO NO ONE WANTS TO GO ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. BOMB EVERYTHING SO OFTEN AND SO RANDOMLY THAT NO WHERE IS SAFE.NIGGER kill all the kikes. NIGGER kill all the chink-mongoloids. NIGGER kill all the red-mongoloids.
 
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I thought that biolab stuff was just some tinfoil hat shit, but this ching chong chink being so concerned about biolabs I'm starting to wonder about biolabs.
Did Hunter Biden and Ivanka Kushner-Trump actually have anythign to do with these biolabs? Did joe's whore wife Jill actually get some chemicals to keep zombie Joe alive from some biolab in ukraine? I mean, it makes sense. Are the Ukrainian neo-nazi jooos actually bombing their own biolabs? Is all the papers that were burned on the first couple days actually outlining the biolab stuff?
yeah I was thinking it was just weird stuff but when the bugmen feel compelled to debunk it usually means it's at least partially right
Like I said earlier, I'm fine with the idea that they're probably not up to anything and are some USDA random shit (or like in Andromeda Strain when that was the front) and Russia just wants to make sure they're locked down just in case rather than Hunter Ebola Pee Pee Tapes or whatever.
Is there a list yet correlating people who swear the labs are bullshit and their views on WuFlu / election fraud deboonkery?
 
The caveat is that the manufacturing is terrible. Replaced an Austrian points system from 1970 with a seemingly identical Chinese one. The Austrian one was gapped once every 1000 miles maybe. The Chinese one I had to regap every 50 to 70km because there was so much slop in the threads.
The flange piece on my replacement starter motor was coated AFTER the mounting bolt holes were threaded, so the bolts wouldn't thread properly until I ran a tap through it to remove the coating.

You just gotta wonder what universe these manufacturers live in. But I guess if I lived in China, I wouldn't care about grifting the Gweilos either.
 
They are quoting the same tweet that was already quoted above as their source. It's just circular reporting.

That's why it seems sus. They have a cellphone then they have access to at least somewhat secure telegram.
I am not saying he is dead or alive. Just that Ukraines are running a large psyop to demoralize the enemy. And saying all their fellow troops and leaders are dead is an effective tactic especially when you know they wont respond because of OPSEC.



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We will see. Fox reporting the second might perhaps suggest confirmation. Or not as journo scum are not that different between the different boomer / hotel / airport networks. So far, though, doubt. Time will tell. The first tweeter isn't a copium hoofer tho. RU advances despite some heavy losses.
 
Ok ukraine has apparently claimed to have killed three russian generals in total the whole war which ...... is out there to say the least, i cant and wont believe it without confirmation.

Hey guys, did you know KF is being ‘monitored’ by this guy


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who monitors disinformation on the Web? (Here he’s talking about Russian propaganda/disinfo on Ukraine and who is spreading/magnifying it.)
i just wanted to say i was behaving myself and cheering on the dead russians so you can take the rest of these commie loving american freedom hating traitors to get ball zapped.

We have no idea if it has stalled or not, since we don't know what their military objectives (instead of their political objectives) are, and everybody is straight up lying (Ukies now swearing they've killed 11,000 Russians, for example, which is bullshit).

The Russians came in light and not obviously set up to do a traditional war of conquest or even a "decapitation strike" (which I don't think they've ever publicly mentioned). Kiev is - was - a city of 3 million people, so there's no possibility of a decapitation strike without murdering thousands - maybe tens of thousands, or more - of innocent civilians. Which would defeat Russian political objectives, and maybe pull in Nato like Zelensky's been increasingly panicked in demanding.

It looks like the situation on the ground is the Russians are grinding their way towards complete control over the country, its coastline, its critical infrastructure, and the access routes around its major cities, while taking some losses from Ukie resistance. Maybe not as quickly as they expected, but it's a steamroller and not a blitzkrieg. They're also regularly talking to the Ukies, offering terms - none of those terms include surrendering the Ukrainian government or submitting to Russian rule, according to both parties.

If the Russians expected to walk in and install a puppet government, that was dumb. I don't think that was the plan tho - they're aware that Ukies and their Western sponsors won't accept a satellite regime reporting to Moscow, and there's no way of getting that to work while also having an "independent" Donbass. I think they're looking to put Ukraine into an arm lock until they tap out, the US accepts a smaller Ukraine that isn't part or de facto part of Nato and therefore won't be used as a FOB against Russia for military ops and color revolution games, and the Russians withdraw behind the new borders.

Time isn't on Russia's side, but it's not on Zelensky's side either. Neither can afford this to drag out indefinitely. But the Russians can probably, once they've encircled Kiev, camp out and wait to get what they want for longer than Zelensky can maintain a functioning government. That's where the desperation to pull in Nato comes from, with demands for no fly zones (which would instantly mean a Nato-Russia war), escalating war porn on the news, and not very subtle attempts to bait Russian troops into committing atrocities. Desperate people are dangerous, so this could get bumpy over the next week.
war is really really really expensive though, is there any objective worth grinding this out and bankrupting your nation? he probably could have pressured the west into protecting minorities in eastern ukraine and not make the russian ethnicity hated worldwide to the point people are trying to murder diplomats to applause and without grinding their economy into the dirt.

>Why are the evil Russians shelling civilian buildings for no reason!?!?
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gee sucks, could have been entirely avoided by not invading.
 
Ok ukraine has apparently claimed to have killed three russian generals in total the whole war which ...... is out there to say the least, i cant and wont believe it without confirmation.
It was two Generals and a Colonel, one general and the colonel are confirmed from Russian sources and the one general that supposedly died a few hours ago is still up in the air.
Safe say it's probable as Russia keeps having it's generals near the frontline seemingly forgetting that Ukraine has artillery so it can strike them.
 
The deceased soldiers' families are now receiving unceremonious papers or Whatsapp notifications informing them their loved ones' have died during a "special military operation." So as long as the mounting deaths don't cause an uproar threatening his regime at home he won't lose sleep over dead soldiery.
I hope they get more the the miserable sum I heard. Families face destitution. Central Asian recruits are often migrant workers with family at home, so dissipating the reaction for a time. Yet some Central Asian dictators have looked vulnerable. Yet the dead might often be illegals or near it, so maybe they'll say little so the widow gets something.
 
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