Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Okay so a no fly zone would result in dangerous escalation, how about we detonate a nuclear bomb in the troposphere and use our net runners to dance though the web of cyberspace to disable Russian planes?

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This is a fox news reporter not a rando twitter nerd
They're trying to rule-lawyer acts of war. "WELL ACHUALLY WE DIDN'T TECHNICALLY SET UP A NO FLY ZONE."

How the fuck do they not get that this isn't how it works?
 
Ukraine is literally North Vietnam at this point. They don't need an economy to fight this war. The West has written them a blank check. They can have whatever they want, provided they can supply the bodies to carry it.

The North Vietnamese military was going to collapse and the U.S. military stopped due to pressure from home because the Americans were doing North Vietnam a favour by running a propaganda campaign for them.

Not a good analogy.
 
Because a no fly zone isn't some magic field that keeps plans from flying. It's a promise to shoot down anything flying in the zone without authorization. Shooting down someone else's planes is an act of war. So anyone attempting to enforce a no fly zone will essentially be at war with Russia very quickly. And probably doesn't have anything that Russia cares much about taking intact.
then why not give ukraine the ability to shoot planes out of the sky? in another country doesn't want to do it, then I don't see a reason in not atleasting providing them the means to do it themselves, surely there has to be some way a country can do an a pretend oppsie woopsie fuckey wuckey and pretend planes got stolen by third parties and had it magically appear in ukraine, shit if the glow niggers can manage to "lose" a shit ton of weapons to the cartels during their combined war on drugs with mexico, then the usa could smuggle some fighter jets and munitions and blame it on afganistan when biden let all that equipment fall into the hands of the taliban.
 
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They keep saying all this stuff about Putin being insane and losing his mental faculties but I remember them lying about Trump and saying the same things so why should I believe them?
well i mean trump thought the jan 6 stuff and stop the steal wouldnt be taken as a coup so thats still up in the air.
Waffle house is a national treasure. Nothing better then sitting inside eating the All Star breakfast while watching a hurricane, blizzard, or riot rage outside the window.
If they had them in Ukraine they would all still be open.



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apparently theres been a few waitresses whos first instinct on seeing a robber is to get a gun and obliterate them into little pieces. if ukraine had waffle house the invasion would have died stillborn as hoards of pissed off bloodthirsty waitresses sent a generation of scared ruskie children to hell with tears on their dying faces.
 
Russia could have Ukraine by the balls economically if they take the coastline and are threatening to encircle many Ukrainian brigades in Eastern Ukraine.
Yeah that's what they've been trying. Ground bridge from Transnistria.

But uh it's not going well. I know what their strategy is in the east (encircle UA around Donetsk) but SE front is tied up in Mariupol.
 
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Let's be real. The odds of Ukraine winning this war have gone from "never going to happen" to "probably not". The odds also increase the longer this goes on. Russia has to take Kharkiv and Mariople soon. If those battles drag on another two weeks they are going to be in serious trouble.
 
at this point I kind don't think putin will stop at ukraine, I am cool with the other countries duking it out, murica can stay out of it. right next to ukraine is tiny moldova, and thats a baby step to romania.

yeah if they're collapsing why not wage a short lived air war on a no fly zone and bring it to its knees quicker and not let innocent civillians die. instead of sitting on our thumbs doing inherently nothing, and give putin more incentive to try this stupid shit on another country next.

To enforce a no-fly zone you need to neutralize (bomb) any oposing air defenses and be prepared to shoot down any planes which violate it. If this sounds a lot like war, it's because it is, very simply put, war.

It should be obvious why a war between NATO and Russia is the last thing anybody needs. Do you really want to call bluff on the threat of thousands of nukes landing on cities all over the world?
 
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I don't believe he's insane, but I do think how extremely Pro-Russian Crimea and the Donbass region are, have legitimately convinced him that the rest of Ukraine would be similar, that all he needed to do was send in the tanks and that everything would come together.
Do you know any Ukrainians or Russians personally? I doubt a former KGB officer and FSB chief would ever think Ukrainians would welcome Russian troops in the present unless they are ethnic Russians. He may have relied on faulty info and it does look like shit went south but that's not one mistake he'd ever make.

I mean I'm not a slav but I'd never make that mistake.
 
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That's a double edged sword. The more you build up, the more obvious your operation becomes. If Putin had really, really saturated the area around the border, everyone would know he planned on a full scale invasion.
I still say he only planned for Minor Incursion until Team Biden dropped the dime to Xi and then Xi flipped it back to Putin, then Putin realizes Team Biden and The West is literally that fucking stupid, so he calls an audible and goes "fuck it, take the whole country" and now we're here
 
yeah if they're collapsing why not wage a short lived air war on a no fly zone and bring it to its knees quicker and not let innocent civillians die. instead of sitting on our thumbs doing inherently nothing, and give putin more incentive to try this stupid shit on another country next.
Nukes. Biden and his handlers are not going to risk it. It's actually a pretty easy decision when you think about the nukes. Hundreds of thousands of people could die in Ukraine, but to save them with an all-out intervention by NATO, it risks a nuclear war that could kill billions.

I kind of want to see Biden do it anyways. See if he's really stupid enough to do it.
 
Hey guys, did you know KF is being ‘monitored’ by this guy


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who monitors disinformation on the Web? (Here he’s talking about Russian propaganda/disinfo on Ukraine and who is spreading/magnifying it.)
Curious people, companies, and any other interested party. Assume every post here is recorded indefinitely.
 
Okay so a no fly zone would result in dangerous escalation, how about we detonate a nuclear bomb in the troposphere and use our net runners to dance though the web of cyberspace to disable Russian planes?
Nah, gotta send in commandos on paragliders after the EMP burst.

It'll start a chain of events that ends with space rastafarians helping with a covert assault on a corporate space station.
 
He followed the letter of the law. But the law isn't for people like him.
what i meant is if i were him id think "well shit this sucks but i better not do this ill get in steep trouble legal or no" i think it was pretty obvious that they were going to frame it the way they did and i question the mental faculties of anyone who wouldnt have that pragmatic concern in mind. also nah i think the spirit of the law is no faggy groypers in congress even to visit so i hoped they get the gitmo ball zaps.

I kind of want to see Biden do it anyways. See if he's really stupid enough to do it.
what if he just nukes russia and it just works cause their shit fucks up from some unlikely event? hed be presidente for life for genociding what many now see as an inherently violent and inferior race of people who want to defile america.
 
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Nah, gotta send in commandos on paragliders after the EMP burst.

It'll start a chain of events that ends with space rastafarians helping with a covert assault on a corporate space station.

No, it'll cause an immense magical event that will cause Mexico to become a global superpower on the back of a revitalized Aztec cult and blood sacrifice and the pacific north-west to be taken over by elves
 
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The irony.
 
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Let's be real. The odds of Ukraine winning this war have gone from "never going to happen" to "probably not". The odds also increase the longer this goes on. Russia has to take Kharkiv and Mariople soon. If those battles drag on another two weeks they are going to be in serious trouble.

Let's be real, if the Ukrainian military in Eastern Ukraine manages to get to the west of the Dnieper without serious losses then the odds of managing to successfully resist the Russian tide on all fronts goes from "never going to happen" to "very probable".
 
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