War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

You don't have any right to do Claire random referendums to steal the parts of people's country be like parts of Texas to claim referendums do join Mexico it's retarded and no one recognized it
Pressure wanted the russian-speaking parts of Ukraine they should have demanded them in the 1990s
There know when they agreed to the borders

I don’t condone Russia’s aggression. I don’t think Putin really gives a shit about ethnic Russians in the Ukraine, the Azov Battalion being a bunch of Snow Niggers and committing war crimes in the Eastern region only helps Putin justify himself. Zelinsky breaking the Minsk agreements also didn’t help Ukraine.

I think the war is stupid, but Zelinsky and the oligarch’s backing him were fucking idiots and Biden is weak. Putin wanted to expand Russia by force if he had to and they gave him the perfect chance to.

 

[SBG]

Hate for Putin’s Russia Consumes Ukraine - The New York Times

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Hate for Putin’s Russia Consumes Ukraine​

LVIV, Ukraine — Trapped in his apartment on the outskirts of Kyiv during fierce battles over the weekend, the well-known Ukrainian poet Oleksandr Irvanets composed a few lines that encapsulated the national mood.
“I shout out to the whole world,” he wrote in a short poem published online by his fans, who have since lost touch with the writer and were worried that he may have fallen behind Russian lines. “I won’t forgive anyone!”
If there is one overriding emotion gripping Ukraine right now, it is hate.
It is a deep, seething bitterness for President Vladimir V. Putin, his military and his government. But Ukrainians are not giving a pass to ordinary Russians, either, calling them complicit through years of political passivity. The hatred is vented by mothers in bomb shelters, by volunteers preparing to fight on the front lines, by intellectuals and by artists.
The emotion is so powerful it could not be assuaged even by an Orthodox religious holiday on Sunday intended to foster forgiveness before Lent. Called Forgiveness Sunday, the holiday is recognized in both the Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox churches.

And this hatred has overwhelmed the close personal ties between two Slavic nations, where many people have family living in both countries.
Billboards have gone up along roadsides in gigantic block letters, telling Russians in profanity-laced language to get out. Social media posts in spaces often shared by Russians and Ukrainians have been awash in furious comments.
Some Ukrainians have posted pictures of people killed in the military assault in Russian chat rooms on the Telegram app. They have vented by writing on the reviews pages for websites of Moscow restaurants.
And they have been mocking Russians in scathing terms for complaining about hardships with banking transactions or the collapsing ruble currency because of international sanctions.

“Damn, what’s wrong with Apple Pay?” Stanislav Bobrytsky, a Ukrainian computer programmer also trapped in the fighting around the capital, Kyiv, wrote sarcastically about how Russians are responding to the war. “I cannot pay for a latte in my favorite coffee shop.”
Mr. Putin is the target of much of the Ukrainians’ unbridled resentment.
The authoritarian leader is to blame, almost all Ukrainians agree. But the frustration is also directed more broadly at Russian society.
Many Ukrainians chastise Russians for increasingly accepting middle-class comforts afforded by the country’s oil wealth in exchange for declining to resist limits on their freedoms. They blame millions of Russians, who Ukrainians say gave up on the post-Soviet dreams of freedom and openness to the West, for enabling the war.“Are your iPhones all right?” another Ukrainian writer, Andriy Bondar, asked Russians on his Facebook page, after a thinly attended antiwar rally in Moscow that was broken up by the riot police. “We are very worried about you. It’s so cruel they use rubber sticks, those terrible riot police.”
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine also appealed to Russians on Sunday to protest for their own sakes as much as for the Ukrainians.
“Don’t miss this opportunity,” he said in comments directed at Russians.
“Citizens of Russia, for you this is a struggle not only for peace in Ukraine, it is a struggle for your country, for the best that was in it, for the freedom that you saw, for the prosperity that you felt,” he added. “If you keep silent now, then only your poverty will speak for you later, and only repression will answer. Do not be silent!”

Mr. Zelensky did not hold back on how he felt about the Russian military.
“We will not forgive the shooting of unarmed people,” he said.
There were virtually no antiwar protests in Russia before the conflict began, though small demonstrations have been staged in recent days. Most participants were arrested.
Yuri Makarov, the chief editor of the Ukrainian national broadcasting company and the head of a national literature and arts award committee, said the war had driven a deep wedge between the Ukrainian and Russian societies that will be hard to heal. Russians, he said, have become Ukrainians’ “collective enemies.”
Some modicum of popular support is enabling the fighting, he said.
“The orders to shell the residential areas of Mariupol, Kharkiv and Zhytomyr were given by specific colonels, captains and junior lieutenants, not by Putin or Shoigu,” he said, referring to the Russian president and his minister of defense, Sergei K. Shoigu. “It is their choice and their responsibility,” he added.

“As for the Russians, I am not interested in their motivation now. They, with the exception of a few, were quite comfortable being in a full dictatorship,” he added.
Olha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.

“When people are happy about the death of Russian soldiers, it is explicable,” she said. “There is a subconscious understanding that this soldier will no longer be able to kill their loved ones.”
Mr. Irvanets, the poet who sent his bitter composition to friends over the weekend, wrote that he had composed the lines in “a city shattered by missiles,” and he referenced the upcoming holiday on Sunday.
But by Forgiveness Sunday, his fans were writing on social media that he had not been in contact and they were concerned that something had happened to him.
“I will never forgive Russia,” the poet wrote.

Also the international legion has hown up in Ukraine to have some fun there. It seems odd for them to have a bunch of photos done of them given how Ukraine's forces have been adamantly against it for security purposes, so have to wonder if they're using this specific group purely for the PR rather than using in actual combat.

 

[Snekposter]

Yeah, its Yet Another Risitas, but it sums up the way things have gone pretty darn well. As in, really, really badly.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Commodity Prices Skyrocket Due to Supply Chain Breakdown and the Crisis in Ukraine​

Global commodity prices skyrocketed on March 7, as the Russian–Ukrainian conflict has caused industrial buyers and traders to scramble for new sources of raw materials hit by supply disruptions.

Russia’s attack on Ukraine nearly two weeks ago has prompted massive sanctions against Russia by the United States and its Western allies.

The sanctions against Russia are the most sweeping ever experienced by a large economy.

Markets went on a rollercoaster Monday, with oil and metals prices going up and down as new developments hit trader screens.

Oil prices spiked after the United States, the United Kingdom, and the European Union said they were considering banning imports of Russian oil and natural gas.


The escalating energy crisis shook investors on Wall Street Monday morning, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunging more than 650 points, around 2 percent, while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq index were each down more than 2 percent in early trading.

Worries about an oil ban have roiled European gas prices, which hit record highs.

Germany, which is reliant on Russian gas, has said it has no plans to stop energy imports from Russia.

Brent crude oil surged as much as 17.8 percent to $139.13 a barrel on Monday morning, reaching the highest levels since July 2008, when it hit a record of $147.50, but it later fell to $123 by noon.

The U.S. national average price of a gallon of gas surpassed $4 on Monday, breaking a 2008 record high.

According to some traders, some of the volatility is being fueled by speculators cancelling out bearish positions, but once buying ran its course, the prices fell.

Commodity markets have not just been shaken by the sanctions on Russia, but due to a breakdown in the logistical network that has blocked the flow of grain and metal from the region.

The sudden rise in raw material prices has sparked concerns in economies still recovering from the CCP-virus pandemic.

Russia is the world’s third-largest nickel producer, with roughly two-thirds of global nickel production used to make stainless steel and the rest for electric vehicle batteries.

Russia accounts for 10 percent of global nickel supply and 6 percent of the world’s aluminum output.

Nickel rose 60 percent to $46,000 a tonne, but gave up $6,500 of the gains in less than half an hour.

The market panic has spurred investors to buy up gold, which is regarded as a safe haven from turmoil in other markets.

Gold hit $2,002.40, up 1 percent, its highest since August 2020.

Palladium rose 15 percent higher to an all-time peak of $3,440 an ounce. but later shed the gains into negative territory.

Russia accounts for 40 percent of global production of the metal, which is used by automakers in catalytic converters.

Copper and aluminum temporarily hit record highs, but fell and went into the red.

Wheat futures rose more than 7 percent to $1,294, hitting a 14-year high, as traders worry about the disruption the Ukraine conflict is having on supplies from Russia and Ukraine.

With the closure of Ukrainian ports and operators reluctant to trade Russian wheat in the face of financial sanctions, buyers are now searching for alternative suppliers.

Russia and Ukraine together account for about 29 percent of global wheat exports and 19 percent of corn exports.

Secretary of State Tony Blinken also indicated the Biden administration was mulling a total Russian import ban, which have largely excluded the energy sector.

“We are now talking to our European partners and allies to look in a coordinated way at the prospect of banning the import of Russian oil, while making sure that there’s still an appropriate supply of oil on world markets. That’s a very active discussion as we speak,” said Blinken to CNN on March 6.

US Sends Additional Troops, Tankers to Europe​

The United States ordered the deployment of 500 additional troops to Europe to augment the forces already there, a U.S. defense official said March 7.

“These additional personnel are being positioned to respond, obviously, to the current security environment caused by Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, and, certainly, to help reinforce and bolster deterrence and defense capabilities of the NATO alliance,” John Kirby, the Pentagon’s spokesman, told reporters in Washington.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered the deployment after speaking with Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley and U.S. European Command head Gen. Tod Wolters, a senior U.S. defense official told reporters on a call on the condition of anonymity.

Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24.

The 500 troops, which are primarily “small units” and “enablers,” will come from between 10,000 and 12,000 troops that were put on heightened alert to potentially be deployed to Europe in February, around the time the war started.


“These troops are very much in support of forces that were already sent forward,” the official said.

In addition to sending refueling tankers and about 150 troops to Greece and about 40 service members from Fort Stewart to help with air support operations in Poland and Romania—two countries that border Ukraine—the deployment includes about 300 troops from an ordnance company out of Fort Bragg and a similar group from Fort Stewart to Germany, another NATO ally.

The United States has been bolstering its presence in Europe since early February, deploying or ordering the deployment of around 11,700 troops that month while repositioning other units that were already in the region to countries near Ukraine.

President Joe Biden has said U.S. troops won’t fight inside Ukraine but are ready to respond if Russia attacks any NATO members, citing NATO rules that treat an attack on any member as an attack on all members.

“We are not going to send U.S. troops to fight in Ukraine against Russia. The president is not going to do that,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Monday.

Russia opposed Ukraine’s hopes to enter NATO and have said a condition of withdrawing troops from Ukraine would be an amendment of the country’s constitution to bar its entry into blocks like the alliance. A third round of negotiations between Russia and Ukraine ended Monday with no solution to the conflict.

French President Emmanuel Macron, after speaking with world leaders including Biden, told a campaign meeting in Poissy that he doesn’t think there would be “a real negotiated solution” in the coming days or weeks.

“I hope so, and we are doing all that we can to help it. It depends on the two parties, but it also depends on the reality on the ground,” he said, adding later, “I think that in the short-term, this war will continue.”

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[LORD IMPERATOR]

If anything this war will punch up their demographics because people reproduce more often under poverty.

Not if there's a scarcity of goods. And not when the populace is A) mostly atheist, and B) has open access to abortion. It's usually the more traditionalist religious societies that value family growth and despise birth control (ie. your Catholics, Muslims, Hindus) that reproduce like rabbits. War or no war, demographics is king, and Russia doesn't have it on their side.

Plus, it's hard to justify having and raising more kids if your lunatic leader will just end up drafting them in the future to fight some stupid war that no one outside his inner circle wants.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Not if there's a scarcity of goods. And not when the populace is A) mostly atheist, and B) has open access to abortion. It's usually the more traditionalist religious societies that value family growth and despise birth control (ie. your Catholics, Muslims, Hindus) that reproduce like rabbits. War or no war, demographics is king.

I wasn't aware that Russia was made up of atheists and I was under the impression that Catholicism made a comeback in Russia after the Cold War.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I wasn't aware that Russia was made up of atheists and I was under the impression that Catholicism made a comeback in Russia after the Cold War.

Not enough. Most of Russia's population hasn't changed that much from the fall of the Soviet Union. The state supports the Russian Orthodox Church, but the church doesn't seem to care that their populace mostly consists of partying drunkards who abort their young, many of whom are godless. Oh, but the church will bitch about the war in Ukraine and how important it is to support it.

 

[Snekposter]

Not enough. Most of Russia's population hasn't changed religiously from the fall of the Soviet Union. The state supports the Russian Orthodox Church, but the church doesn't seem to care that their flock mostly consists of godless drunkards who abort their young. Oh, but the church will bitch about the war in Ukraine and how important it is to support it.

To add to this, the ROC is, for all intents and purposes, a state church and has been for decades. The fact the patriarchate takes their orders from Moscow has been a major bone of contention between them and their subordinate Ukrainian Orthodox Church based in Kiev, who understandably aren't all that keen on taking orders from guys who are taking orders from Putin.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

To add to this, the ROC is, for all intents and purposes, a state church and has been for decades. The fact the patriarchate takes their orders from Moscow has been a major bone of contention between them and their subordinate Ukrainian Orthodox Church based in Kiev, who understandably aren't all that keen on taking orders from guys who are taking orders from Putin.

Exactly. And to further prove that point, the Russian Orthodox Church was always a patsy of the Russian autocrats. Even before Putin and the Soviets, it was an arm of the Tsarist government. It was always a state institution, hence why the people of Ukraine wanted their own Church that didn't take orders from Moscow, a request that the Orthodox Church based in Constantinople agreed to back in 2019. Suffice to say, the Russians weren't pleased:

 

[RodgerDodger]

Exactly. And to further prove that point, the Russian Orthodox Church was always a patsy of the Russian autocrats. Even before Putin and the Soviets, it was an arm of the Tsarist government. It was always a state institution, hence why the people of Ukraine wanted their own Church that didn't take orders from Moscow, a request that the Orthodox Church based in Constantinople agreed to back in 2019. Suffice to say, the Russians weren't pleased:

It’s a centuries old conflict between the Russian Orthodox Prelates in St Petersburg and the Eastern Orthodox prelates in what was at the time Constantinople. With either or both alternating between sucking up to and throwing rocks at Rome and the Catholic Pope.

 

[Dread First]

Exactly. And to further prove that point, the Russian Orthodox Church was always a patsy of the Russian autocrats. Even before Putin and the Soviets, it was an arm of the Tsarist government. It was always a state institution, hence why the people of Ukraine wanted their own Church that didn't take orders from Moscow, a request that the Orthodox Church based in Constantinople agreed to back in 2019. Suffice to say, the Russians weren't pleased.

There is a bit more nuance to the situation than "ROC = state puppet" and "Ecumenical Patriarch = doing the right thing."

Spoiler: Off-topic spergery about Orthodox Christianity

All churches within the Orthodox communion denounce the idea of separate churches for different countries as a heresy. The exact heresy is called "phyletism." The problem is that in recent years, the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople has been exercising his ability to grant autocephaly (the right to self-govern) without any consideration for the wider implications of what his actions entail. It's not just the ROC that finds this contentious: all of the patriarchates that Moscow remains in communion with (i.e. Serbia, Georgia, OCA, Antioch, Jerusalem, Bulgaria, Romania, etc) have expressed some level of discontent with the situation at hand.

Estonia (2004) and Ukraine (2019) were granted autocephaly by the Ecumenical Patriarch without consulting the Patriarch of Moscow, who had jurisdiction over those regions. The autocephaly of Estonia led to a brief break in communion between the two. It was ultimately resolved because Estonia is mostly atheistic anyway, but Ukraine is a much more contentious issue. Assuming that I'm not messing up the timeline here, the Ecumenical Patriarch historically governed over what is now Ukraine and Belarus during the time. However, when Moscow was granted autocephaly in 1589, most of Eastern Ukraine fell under its jurisdiction because that's what the Tsardom of Russia ruled over. Eventually, the Russian Empire spread westward and absorbed the rest of modern Ukraine and Belarus. This put the Moscow Patriarchate in direct conflict with the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Keep in mind though that the Ecumenical Patriarch was (and still is) severely limited in the scope of his power for centuries after the Ottomans took over. Gradually, more and more of the Orthodox churches in Eastern Europe began to gravitate toward Moscow (i.e. Georgia, Serbia, Bulgaria, etc) because they weren't under the control of Muslim or Latin rulers. This dispute between the Patriarch of Moscow and the Ecumenical Patriarch would not be resolved in the coming centuries. It would become moot once the Bolsheviks took power and enforced state atheism while forcing the ROC into exile via ROCOR, but 1991 happened and that old scab got picked off.

Moving away from the beef between Moscow and Constantinople, let's circle back to the phyletism heresy. Phyletism has become a hotly contested subject among Orthodox circles in recent years because there are a shitload of countries and autonomous regions that have been demanding autocephaly from their mother churches in recent memory. The most prominent examples are Estonia (governed by Moscow), Ukraine (governed by Moscow), Montenegro (governed by Serbia), and Abkhazia (governed by Georgia). Moscow has bore the brunt of the Ecumenical Patriarch's shenanigans with granting autocephaly, but that still doesn't change the fact mother churches like Serbia and Georgia don't want to endure what Moscow's going through.

Going off on a small tangent here: the Ecumenical Patriarch does not recognise the autocephaly of the OCA (Orthodox Church in America). The reason why is that Moscow granted autocephaly to the OCA in October of 1970... while Moscow was still squarely under the the thumb of the Soviets. Also, the Ecumenical Patriarch doesn't recognise the OCA's claim of jurisdiction over North America, insisting that lands outside of historic purview of other churches were up for grabs by any patriarchate (if I'm not mistaken). This is why becoming an Orthodox Christian in the USA is monumentally confusing, because you have the Greek Archdiocese competing with the OCA while also competing with Antiochian Archdiocese while also competing with ROCOR and countless other sub-groups that descend from immigrants bringing their culture with them. Theoretically, all sacraments and canons are valid between the different churches in America. Furthermore, local churches in the OCA still concelebrate with other churches under different dioceses like the Greeks, Russians, Serbians, Georgians, Romanians, Bulgarians, and Antiochians. This still doesn't change the fact that the OCA is still a relative outsider in the wider Orthodox communion because the Ecumenical Patriarch refuses to recognise its autocephaly.

While it is true that Patriarch Kirill has been complicit with Putin's shenanigans over the last decade or two, that doesn't change the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church has been responsible for bringing Orthodoxy to distant lands while Constantinople languished under Ottoman rule. Orthodoxy in America has its roots in the late 1700s/early 1800s when Russian missionaries brought Christianity to the Alaskan natives. It gradually spread south from there. On top of this, there have been countless saints canonised by Moscow that all of the churches recognise on some level, the most famous of which being Saint John of Shanghai and San Francisco in the modern era. Is the Patriarch of Moscow a crony of the ruling government of Russia over the last century? Eh, kinda? That still doesn't change the fact that Orthodox Christianity operates on a heavily decentralised model and that most decisions that Kirill (or any future Patriarch of Moscow) makes aren't the be-all end-all for Orthodox Christians under his jurisdiction.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It’s a centuries old conflict between the Russian Orthodox Prelates in St Petersburg and the Eastern Orthodox prelates in what was at the time Constantinople. With either or both alternating between sucking up to and throwing rocks at Rome and the Catholic Pope.

Basically. But right now, they're both sucking up to the Pope. Or were, anyways, especially since Rome showed solidarity with Ukraine over the invasion, Russia's Church would obviously have to re-assess their ties to the Vatican.

@Dread First
The thing is, both the Orthodox Church in Constantinople and the one in Moscow started out as arms of the state; that's where Moscow even got the blueprints for its church; they saw the Byzantine Church taking direct orders from the Byzantine Emperor, with the Emperor even appointing their patriarchs, and they copied it wholesale. Now, the Byzantine Emperor is gone, and the Orthodox Church in Constantinople just wants to retain whatever influence it has as the "first among equals" of the Orthodox community, while the Muscovites naturally want to lead, as they have the "strongest" and largest Orthodox nation. Neither side is right or wrong. However, since Constantinople granted Moscow its patriarchate in the first place, they have every right to say that Ukraine has autocephaly as well. Legally, at the very least.

Back to the war in Ukraine, here's someone with a very good take. While he does lay the lion's share of the blame on Putin, he throws some at Bill Clinton as well:

Suffice to say, the promise not to expand NATO eastward was made by the west......to the Soviet Union, not the Russian Federation. And they were saying that they weren't going to expand towards East Germany. With the fall of the Soviet Union, and many of its former members and puppet states joining NATO, any binding power that agreement has is gone. Putin and his Russian nationalists are just angry that the nations they once ruled over as vassals want to be part of the western global hegemony instead. They're just ass-mad that their former puppet states want to carry someone else's colors into the battlefield.

 

[b0x]

I never knew Ukraine had so many Nazis

Teenage girl soldier hailed as Ukraine's 'Joan of Arc' by Elle magazine is revealed as neo-Nazi and is arrested over cop killing​

• Vita Zaverukha, 19, arrested after a failed attempt to rob a petrol station
• Two police officers killed and three injured after ensuing chase in Kiev
• Vita is a known to be a neo-Nazi, spreading her views through social media
• But she featured in French magazine Elle praising female Ukrainian fighters

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3073478/Teen-girl-feted-Ukraine-s-Joan-Arc-fighting-against-Russian-rebels-revealed-nasty-neo-Nazi-views-arrested-killing-cops.html

 

[SBG]

The View's Whoopi talks as though it is an inevitability that the US will be sending troops onto the ground. While also arguing that Russia only didn't do anything under Trump because Trump would've given into Russia.

Also had them speaking on why there's a need for a no-fly zone.

So lib-women media is really hopping on the idea of doing a no fly zone and going straight into a war with Russia.

 

[(‿ˠ‿)]

While also arguing that Russia only didn't do anything under Trump because Trump would've given into Russia.
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How the fuck does this even make sense? You supposedly have a puppet in power who will fold on command, and then you wait until that admin is ousted and replaced with hostile leadership before making your big move? Why?

 

[biscuitscilia]

It’s a centuries old conflict between the Russian Orthodox Prelates in St Petersburg and the Eastern Orthodox prelates in what was at the time Constantinople. With either or both alternating between sucking up to and throwing rocks at Rome and the Catholic Pope.

Exactly. And to further prove that point, the Russian Orthodox Church was always a patsy of the Russian autocrats. Even before Putin and the Soviets, it was an arm of the Tsarist government. It was always a state institution, hence why the people of Ukraine wanted their own Church that didn't take orders from Moscow, a request that the Orthodox Church based in Constantinople agreed to back in 2019. Suffice to say, the Russians weren't pleased:

To be fair, the Orthodox church exists because the Emperor in Constantinople was both the head of state and the church, so it's not that off point. (Among other things but I recall that was one of the big ones politically)

 

[LaxerBRO]

Monday is here.
Did Rossiya get bankrupt, yet?

The stock market opens on Wednesday, at least for now.

 

[RichardMongler]

NATO Powers Preparing To Turn Ukraine Into Another Afghanistan​

In a provocative statement on March 6th, 2022, Jewish Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said the US had given the “green light” for Poland to deliver fighter jets to Ukraine, promising that the US would replace any fighters that the Poles send to the Ukrainian government. This came after Ukraine’s Jewish President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded more weapons and aid in a Zoom call with the US congress on March 5th. Zelensky also demanded that the US declare a no-fly zone over Ukraine, which would oblige the US military and NATO allies to shoot down Russian aircraft and would thus be tantamount to a declaration of war on Russia.

While it is unlikely at this stage that the US will engage in direct warfare with Russia, the groundwork is being laid to prolong the fight against Russia indefinitely by sending shipments of weapons from nearly all NATO states into Ukraine. President Biden has reportedly asked congress for $10 billion in aid for Ukraine, $4.8 billion of which will be to cover the cost of US troop deployments to countries on the Ukrainian border and restock weapons the Pentagon has already sent to Ukraine. This is on top of a $200 million “lethal aid” package the US approved in December and another $350 million package approved last week. These appropriations include Javelin anti-tank missiles and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles. Between 2014 and 2021, the US sent $2.5 billion in “lethal aid” to Ukraine.

European governments have joined the US in pumping Ukraine full of weapons. According to a NATO statement:

Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, the United Kingdom and the United States have already sent or are approving significant deliveries of military equipment to Ukraine. Ukraine has already received critical weapons, including Javelin missiles and anti-aircraft missiles, from NATO Allies, as well as millions of euros of financial assistance.

The German government broke with their longstanding policy of not sending weapons to active war zones by sending 500 Stinger missiles, 1,000 anti-tank missiles and 400 rocket-propelled grenade launchers to Ukraine. The Germans also approved the shipment of nine German made Howitzer cannons from Estonia, a move which it had previously blocked. Sweden and Finland have pledged 5,000 and 1,500 anti-tank missiles respectively, along with rifles, ammunition and field rations.

In a particularly Orwellian move, the European Union pledged €450 million euros from the “European Peace Facility” to reimburse member states for any weapons they send to Ukraine. The Facility was established in 2021 to fund a potential conflict with Russia and has a total of €5 billion euros pledged by member states through 2027.

In total, at least 17,000 anti-tank weapons have been shipped from the West into Ukraine in the last week. In addition to weapons shipments, the US and NATO allies have been encouraging their citizens and veterans to go and fight as irregulars on behalf of Ukraine. There can be no doubt that Western funded mercenaries are already operating inside of Ukraine. The purpose of all this is to bog down and delay Russian forces and make the conflict last as long as possible.

On March 7th, the NY Times published a report in which several military experts claim that the Russians are demoralized and on the brink of defeat. While loaded with unsourced claims that the Russian military is emotionally devastated by losing elite units to the plucky democratic rebels of Ukraine, these experts inevitably admit that they have no real evidence for such conjecture and acknowledge that a Russian victory is inevitable in the long run.

To be sure, most military experts say that Russia will eventually subdue Ukraine’s army. Russia’s military, at 900,000 active duty troops and two million reservists, is eight times the size of Ukraine’s. Russia has advanced fighter planes, a formidable navy and marines capable of multiple amphibious landings…

In January, Foreign Policy published an assessment by two policy analysts at the Rand Corporation stating that US weapon shipments to Ukraine, specifically anti-tank missiles, would not alter the outcome of a war with Russia. Given that all experts agree that whatever setbacks the Russians may be suffering, the outcome of the war is inevitable, shipping weapons into the war zone and prolonging the conflict is morally reprehensible. What purpose can such a policy serve other than to get more people killed and turn Ukraine into a hellscape? The likely reason is that the US and NATO want to weaken Russia over the long term with a protracted guerrilla war, no matter the horrific consequences this would have for the Ukrainians they pretend to care so much about.

Since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 23rd, the Jewish controlled media apparatus in the West has whipped up anti-Russian ethnic hatred and war fervor among increasingly unhinged wealthy and aspirational upper middle class segments of American and European society. An atmosphere of grandiosity, hysteria and detachment from reality has permeated mainstream coverage and social media discourse for the last two weeks.

The absurd figure of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian known for homoerotic toilet humor, has been recast as “the great communicator” and even more ridiculously, as a reincarnation of Winston Churchill! Whatever one thinks of the notorious British drunk and warmonger, the comparison is simply preposterous. However reprehensible his policies were, Churchill was known as an acerbic and witty orator who wrote dozens of books over his lifetime on politics, history and military strategy. Zelensky was known for pretending to play the piano with his penis.

This level of derangement and the personality cult of the odious Zelensky are being deliberately cultivated to foster political support for rejecting negotiations with Russia and turning Ukraine into a munitions dump to draw out the conflict. The aim is to bog Russia down in a protracted guerrilla war across half of Ukraine, effectively turning it into another Afghanistan.

In the 1980s the US funded and armed Afghan tribesmen to thwart the Soviet invasion of that country, a move which had disastrous long term results for the entire world. This policy lead to 40 years of near constant civil war in Afghanistan and the spread of Jihadist terrorism globally. According to the US government itself, the funding of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan played a role in the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which in turn lead to the ruinous 20 year US occupation of Afghanistan in which over 70,000 Afghans and 2,500 American troops were killed, 20,000 Americans troops were wounded, and which cost an estimated $5.8 trillion. Ultimately, the US fled the country last fall, leaving it in the hands of the same Taliban government they had promised to remove from power in 2001. What was the point of it all? So far, no one in US foreign policy circles has been able to answer that question. No one has even bothered to try.

Repeating this policy in the Ukraine would be catastrophic. In addition to the constant threat that the conflict could spiral into World War III, the inevitable result will be death and suffering for Ukrainians and Russians, a refugee crisis for Europe and further economic hardship for Europeans and Americans.

The National Justice Party calls for an immediate end to the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine and an immediate halt to all weapons shipments into the country. If Russian victory is inevitable, as everyone agrees, negotiations with Russia for a peaceful resolution must begin in good faith as soon as possible. Further use of Ukraine as a staging ground for provocations and black ops against Russia must end. The National Justice Party, as outlined in our platform, stands for a peaceful foreign policy and an end to foreign military entanglements.

 

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That's still fucking hilarious how Russia and its supporters think that protecting its "influence" over neighboring countries is something worth throwing bombs over, whereas America doesn't give a shit that many of the Latino countries to its south that they used to by proxy in the 1900s are now socialist banana republics full of Yankee-haters.

Also, this will be worse than Afghanistan for Russia, since Ukraine is actually able to drive their armies away conventionally. Not to mention that modern Russia is weaker than the Soviet Union and is more reliant on the west for economic activity and raw materials. So no matter the outcome of the war in Ukraine, one thing is for sure: Russia is finished.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The View's Whoopi talks as though it is an inevitability that the US will be sending troops onto the ground. While also arguing that Russia only didn't do anything under Trump because Trump would've given into Russia.
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Also had them speaking on why there's a need for a no-fly zone.
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So lib-women media is really hopping on the idea of doing a no fly zone and going straight into a war with Russia.

This fat nigress means the rednecks and hillbillies in the flyover states can go and die in Ukraine, not her precious nig nogs.