Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this saga so I can go back through everything posted in the last thread and laugh at the bullshit.
Personally, I don't see Russia going home empty-handed and am hopeful we get more of the aftermath post-"military operation" to contrast with what we're being told during.
Bare minimum, Russia's getting Zelensky's guarantee of neutrality, for whatever good that will do.
 
FUCK YOU NATOJANNIES!
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I've been using this Finnish map.


It's pretty accurate and quickly updated, but there are a few odd things about it. As far as I know, Russia still controls Konotop and are still at the outskirts of Voznosensk yet this map doesn't reflect that.
The problem with most of these maps is that it draws WW2 style "lines" when they're entirely obsoleted forms of measurement. This one is "closer" to reality but I still don't like the vast coloring down by the Crimea. This war is almost certainly going to be dictated by the vast amount of insurgents that plague Russia over the course of months or years and its important to note that Russia doesn't really control every little village and town in the countryside, they just destroyed formal national military units but left a seething population in the rear of their advancing units. Everyone should be very careful when dealing with these maps because they tell a false story. Every major invasion in the 21st century by a national military has been overturned by insurgent forces, the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had the US fleeing by 2009 as casualties were causing serious dissension in the country alongside the economic implosion, Iraq got dropped like a sack of shit. Afghanistan also was overturned in under a week after the US finally capitulated and left. I see no reason why Ukraine wont follow the same format.

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Tucker covered the war today and basically he is right that we got many cocksuckers who want war with Putin anyways.

Putting aside Putin's claim of "denazification", which almost all of us don't believe in it.

A more likely reason is Biden is a pussified cuckolded cunt and Putin didn't want Ukraine to join NATO.

However we also got a lot of folks stateside who believe Trump was a puppet of Putin and some of them are unironic believers and others just want to nuke Russia because cold war programming has successfully been beaten in their retarded heads.

The thing about war and ideological fighting is that, its on Putin and him to fight against America and balance it out.

Most Americans believe there is nothing wrong with America to fuck up Russia hard and there is nothing wrong with it even if it makes them mad.

Therefore its up to Putin and whatever they believe in, to decide how they want to counter and I'm sure many Russians over there see us as a degenerate goddless shithole and something that Putin himself has called the west in general.

Its up the elites to decide at this point as it seems like Putin and Western elites don't really care if Putin skullfucks Uki babies for the lulz, its about settling scores just like the run up to World War 1.

 
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The problem with most of these maps is that it draws WW2 style "lines" when they're entirely obsoleted forms of measurement. This one is "closer" to reality but I still don't like the vast coloring down by the Crimea. This war is almost certainly going to be dictated by the vast amount of insurgents that plague Russia over the course of months or years and its important to note that Russia doesn't really control every little village and town in the countryside, they just destroyed formal national military units but left a seething population in the rear of their advancing units. Everyone should be very careful when dealing with these maps because they tell a false story. Every major invasion in the 21st century by a national military has been overturned by insurgent forces, the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had the US fleeing by 2009 as casualties were causing serious dissension in the country alongside the economic implosion, Iraq got dropped like a sack of shit. Afghanistan also was overturned in under a week after the US finally capitulated and left. I see no reason why Ukraine wont follow the same format.

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The difference in the will (and ability) of countries with some of the highest tfrs in the world vs one of the lowest to start and maintain a serious guerilla war. Not only does Ukraine have a shortage of young men, its people just aren't that committed to it judging by how many of them leave the whole place behind the first chance they get. You need good terrain and the right kind of population structure to sustain a long-term insurgency, Ukraine has neither.
 
immediate family was asking about the idea that "wait, are things really this bad" and I had to explain the cultural meanings of DEFCON 2
and so I got into "this may be unlikely but..." and had to drop the harsh truth of why as somebody who has to follow international politics for a living why I just drink from the bottle these days
 
The problem with most of these maps is that it draws WW2 style "lines" when they're entirely obsoleted forms of measurement. This one is "closer" to reality but I still don't like the vast coloring down by the Crimea. This war is almost certainly going to be dictated by the vast amount of insurgents that plague Russia over the course of months or years and its important to note that Russia doesn't really control every little village and town in the countryside, they just destroyed formal national military units but left a seething population in the rear of their advancing units. Everyone should be very careful when dealing with these maps because they tell a false story. Every major invasion in the 21st century by a national military has been overturned by insurgent forces, the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had the US fleeing by 2009 as casualties were causing serious dissension in the country alongside the economic implosion, Iraq got dropped like a sack of shit. Afghanistan also was overturned in under a week after the US finally capitulated and left. I see no reason why Ukraine wont follow the same format.

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I don't read too much into the lines and interpret them as "roughly controls..." in regards to military influence. If Russia is denying Ukrainian military access to somewhere even if just by virtue of besieging a major city then they "control" that area.

A realistic battle map of Afghanistan as the Taliban retook it would be equally ridiculous by this standard as they certainly didn't have a massive army retaking all of those provinces and then rushing Kabul. It's just zones of influence.
 
The problem with most of these maps is that it draws WW2 style "lines" when they're entirely obsoleted forms of measurement. This one is "closer" to reality but I still don't like the vast coloring down by the Crimea. This war is almost certainly going to be dictated by the vast amount of insurgents that plague Russia over the course of months or years and its important to note that Russia doesn't really control every little village and town in the countryside, they just destroyed formal national military units but left a seething population in the rear of their advancing units. Everyone should be very careful when dealing with these maps because they tell a false story. Every major invasion in the 21st century by a national military has been overturned by insurgent forces, the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had the US fleeing by 2009 as casualties were causing serious dissension in the country alongside the economic implosion, Iraq got dropped like a sack of shit. Afghanistan also was overturned in under a week after the US finally capitulated and left. I see no reason why Ukraine wont follow the same format.

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The great Hohol insurgency is a cope. Unlike Afghanistan, it's much easier to leave and unlike both Iraq and Afghanistan, Ukraine has an incredibly low fertility. There aren't enough people to fight the Russkies even now, let alone enough who'd choose a taste of Ivan's glock over cleaning toilets in Poland.
 
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