Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[draggs]

The problem with most of these maps is that it draws WW2 style "lines" when they're entirely obsoleted forms of measurement. This one is "closer" to reality but I still don't like the vast coloring down by the Crimea. This war is almost certainly going to be dictated by the vast amount of insurgents that plague Russia over the course of months or years and its important to note that Russia doesn't really control every little village and town in the countryside, they just destroyed formal national military units but left a seething population in the rear of their advancing units. Everyone should be very careful when dealing with these maps because they tell a false story. Every major invasion in the 21st century by a national military has been overturned by insurgent forces, the invasion of Iraq in 2003 had the US fleeing by 2009 as casualties were causing serious dissension in the country alongside the economic implosion, Iraq got dropped like a sack of shit. Afghanistan also was overturned in under a week after the US finally capitulated and left. I see no reason why Ukraine wont follow the same format.

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You'd have more credibility if you didn't say things like the US fleeing Iraq and dropping it like a sack of shit by 2009, since the highest number of US troops in Iraq in 2009 was 148,500; 2010, 114,300; 2011, 47,305. Deaths 2009, 149. Wounded 2009, 688. Deaths 2010, 50. Wounded 2010, 319. Deaths 2011, 0. Wounded 2011, 0. All numbers from DoD. Does not include PMCs aka mercenaries. There were no serious dissensions in the US over casualties during the first term of Barack Obama. The Obama administration essentially followed a very slightly accelerated Bush administration withdrawal plan. No US soldiers were officially in Iraq from 2012 to 2015. If Russia is in as good a shape in Ukraine the next three years as the US was in Iraq from 2009-2011, Vlad daddy will be very pleased.

 

[Matt Damon]

Reddit Foreign Legion

Or alternatively, the Reddit Expeditionary Force.

 

[The Omni Cuckold]

Any ambiguities with regard to the UPA don't apply to this person because he is one of the members of the UPA that ended up fighting inside Germany at the end of the war. There isn't any doubt as to the sympathies of the particular units that someone like him would have belonged to.

It didn't say he fought in Berlin though. It said people were executed after the fall of Berlin. The Soviets were arresting and rounding up an estimated 250,000 UPA members in Western Ukraine starting in 1944 and continued into 1946.

 

[XYZpdq]

Tom Lehrer is based. My favorite song of his is this

The Chinese line is very foreshadowing if you looked at it from these days POV

seriously he would be demonetized if he was irl today
edit- apparently he's not dead yet, but

In 2012 rapper 2 Chainz sampled Lehrer's song "Dope Peddler", on his 2012 debut album, Based on a T.R.U. Story. In 2013, Lehrer said he was "very proud" to have his song sampled "literally sixty years after I recorded it". Lehrer went on to describe his official response to the request to use his song: "As sole copyright owner of 'The Old Dope Peddler', I grant you motherfuckers permission to do this. Please give my regards to Mr. Chainz, or may I call him 2?"

this motherfucker might trump oscar wilde for shitposting until they plant him

 

[MrJokerRager]

So now instead of having a lasting-if-uneasy peace with the Russians, we've forced them into an alliance with the majority of the planet's population against us.

The minds behind US diplomacy since the Cold War ended could not have fucked us harder if they'd tried.

Most of them folks are soulless cunts who bought into the white man's burden.

By folks, I do not mean like mutts or minorities or white liberals that go on CNN or regular run of the mill conservatives on Fox News.

Someone who is closer to like Tucker's background, rich wasp old money country club style fuckers. They all went to the same universities, had the same circles and are friends with each other.

The kind of folks who watch CBS and ABC and NBC. Those are the folks who hated a boor non wasp fucker like Trump and just went mad after that.

 

[Sammich]

Hypothetically if you don't use twitter we shouldn't have a problem anyway.

But: callout posting, virtue signaling, link shilling (especially charities and NGOs), hope police nonsense, moralfaggotry, doubleposting and treating quotes like retweets for starters.

This should all be basic stuff to avoid if you've used this website for any length of time. I hope to crack down on the influx of retards from Twitter, Reddit, 4chan, Discord, etc who keep shitting up this board. That rule is for them, not KF users.

MIght be borderline even asking this question. Why all these open ended rules all of a sudden? Dude asked what seemed like a reasonable question and you just told him if he didn't use twitter he'd be fine. That seems vague as fuck.
Keep in mind, i'm just really asking. Virtue signaling, moral fagging, that's all this really has been fro the past week, lol. MIght as well ban concern trolling and bait posting too, hehe.

I'm honestly just wanting to nail down what will get me thread banned, as i have been enjoying this thread for a week or so.

 

[Strix454]

It didn't say he fought in Berlin though. It said people were executed after the fall of Berlin. The Soviets were arresting and rounding up an estimated 250,000 UPA members in Western Ukraine starting in 1944 and continued into 1946.

He surrendered to the British in 1945 in Germany. And then was resettled in glossop in the UK after the war. That is what I take from the article anyway.

 

[L50LasPak]

Genuine question, what would be considered as established propaganda sources? Russia/Ukraine Government? CNN? The suspiciously biased Twitter accounts (on both sides)?

They're all obviously tainted and I'm not going to write you a list of L50 Approved news sources because that list would be short and contain zero entries. Generally for me to consider you a shill you must show a strong history of robotically posting and responding on the same topic, constantly trying to engage in a war of slogans with other users and just generally trying to shout people down instead of having a discussion with them.

Some other basic pointers: If they obessively post only from one or two sources and do not diversify, they are probably shills. The people who seethe defensively about the website being biased the moment their belligerence is contradicted are almost always shills, paid or otherwise. Posts that are formatted strangely are a strong tipoff as well due to the way the forum handles line spacing in copypasted text.

 

[Kane Lives]

Vegan makes it all about themselves.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Most of them folks are soulless cunts who bought into the white man's burden.

By folks, I do not mean like mutts or minorities or white liberals that go on CNN or regular run of the mill conservatives on Fox News.

Someone who is closer to like Tucker's background, rich wasp old money country club style fuckers. They all went to the same universities, had the same circles and are friends with each other.

The kind of folks who watch CBS and ABC and NBC. Those are the folks who hated a boor non wasp fucker like Trump and just went mad after that.

Tucker is a total WASP dude. He comes from old money on daddy's side and new money on mommy's side.

I see you meant Trump, yeah his daddy was new money. I think his ostentation is a bit of an act, he's not a tacky dresser and neither is Melania.

 

[L50LasPak]

MIght as well ban concern trolling and bait posting too, hehe.

That's pretty much already banned under the slapfighting designation.

I'm honestly just wanting to nail down what will get me thread banned, as i have been enjoying this thread for a week or so.

None of these rules are new. If you've made it this far without getting threadbanned or warned, you're more than likely fine.

 

[Happy Fish]

Vegan makes it all about themselves.

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She should fight there since she has no problem with eating the bugs

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Vegan makes it all about themselves.

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I refuse to believe this isn't a shitpost. What are these "vegan-centric" soldiers supposed to do? Throw vegetables at the enemy? I imagine it would go as well as this:

 

[Duke Nukem]

Redditors are buying this shit. It sounds just like complete bullshit. My heckin pupperini helpers nooo!

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For some reason I can't archive the plebbit thread but you get an idea.

What's next, are they gonna repeat the lie of German soldiers nailing babies to barn doors for bayonet practice or something? I understand it's war and there's casualties on both sides but c'mon.

 

[No_one]

Russian MoD has released some (inflated) numbers concerning recent operations:
According to them since the beginning they have destroyed: 2,482 military facilities including 87 command and communication posts, 124 anti-aircraft missile systems and 79 radar stations. Also they report destroying 866 tanks and armored vehicles, 91 multiple launch rocket systems, 317 artillery pieces and mortars, 634 military vehicles and 81 UAVs.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Fox News has a segment on tens of thousands of foreign volunteers arriving to fight for Ukraine and it could be as many as 100,000 soon.

Jesus Christ, thats like 100k Dilator Wands

 

[IKOL]

I've slept after hard work and good dinner, what have I missed so far?

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I've slept after hard work and good dinner, what have I missed so far?

Nothing, past 3 days have been a nothingburger overall.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Anybody want to take bets on how long before Putin launches the nukes?

Never. Russia has never actually seriously entertained the thought of launching nukes and is desperately reliant on them as a bluff. Just see the insane amount of "close calls" regarding Russia which make it blatantly obvious that despite the warmongering rhetoric, they aren't quite that suicidal. It's an unspoken rule of nuclear powers that "you back off when I yell nuke", which would cause mass chaos if another nuclear power were to actually call a nuclear power's bluff because nobody actually wants to be the one to start the nuclear shitshow.

If any Russian leader is stupid enough to demand nuclear war, he either gets domed by his second-in-command or a civil war/internal struggle for power breaks out.

 

[Rezza]

I've slept after hard work and good dinner, what have I missed so far?

Nothing, really
The Russian are stopping their advance, probably to regroup and preparing for a big push
EU is looking to cut off Russian gas, and Russia also threaten to cut them off
An evacuation route is opened in Sumy
Oh, and just in, but British Defense Minister just said the Brits would support Poland if they gave Ukraine fighter jets