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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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You're giving Russians too much credit in assuming they don't just shell cities indiscriminately, which they do.
You're a liar. The Russians are demonstrably NOT doing that. There may be a few stray shells but the fact is that Russians are showing remarkable restraint.

So instead of taking any sort of nuanced approach, Russians would rather just destroy the entire city from the distance to maximize enemy casualties and reduce their own.
You're doubly a liar. - If the Russians wanted to raze a city to the ground, they'd have no trouble doing so - look at Grozny for proof. In reality, the Russians are incurring unnecessary losses precisely because they are trying very hard to cause as little damage as possible to non-military infrastructure, as well as preserving civilian lives.
Stop lying, nigger.
 
I'll sum up this story for everyone who doesn't speak Russian or Ukrainian, it's an interesting one. It happened in Kharkiv, February 24th.

Colonel ordered Russian troops to block roads out of the city. At one such road, eventually locals amassed as they wanted to leave to go home, for work or some other reason, confrontation happened, spontaneous protest.
Russian colonel got sick of it and gave the order to start shooting at the civilians. Cars started turning back and driving away, some people took cover. Then Ukrainian forces arrived at the scene and a firefight ensued.
This Russian private (I'm going to call him private) with a lieutenant from another platoon decided to save civilians, helping them to find cover behind "blocks" (concrete blocks, I assume). They took elderly mother (~50 years old) with her daughter (~20-25 years old) out of the car and hid them behind one of these concrete blocks, staying with them for around 20 minutes.
Colonel noticed them and ordered his troops to shoot them as well. Lieutenant first got hit in the helmet, then in carotid artery and died on the spot. Elderly mother died next.
Private managed to escape with the daughter in the end.
Here's the videos, Russian soldier's testimony has subs, apparently, so there was no point in me trying to translate it.

Testimony of the captured Russian soldier:

And the young Ukrainian woman corroborating it:

Video by the same woman from that scene a day later, showing both her mother and the soldier who died trying to protect her:

If you're still simping for Russia at this point, go die in a fire.
 
Polls showing even Republicans want more done on Ukraine than Dems. So the idea that Republicans are now the anti-war party that wouldn't dare want to send over soldiers to do anything may be a bit far fetched.

Honestly had a weird experience with a relative the other day who couldn't believe me when I said some on Fox had people on basically wanting to give Putin everything he wanted and have Ukraine surrender. Then I played a video clip of a guy saying just as much and my relative was completely baffled, they seemed even more confused when I pointed out the person was then a guest on Tucker Carlson's show. Which feels significant because a lot of right wing people online seem to think because Tucker speaks in indirect language that the US shouldn't do anything to help Ukraine that it means it's a popular sentiment amongst everyone on the right.


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You're a liar. The Russians are demonstrably NOT doing that. There may be a few stray shells but the fact is that Russians are showing remarkable restraint.


You're doubly a liar. - If the Russians wanted to raze a city to the ground, they'd have no trouble doing so - look at Grozny for proof. In reality, the Russians are incurring unnecessary losses precisely because they are trying very hard to cause as little damage as possible to non-military infrastructure, as well as preserving civilian lives.
Stop lying, nigger.
This is a different time and a different place. Ukrainians are much better prepared and supplied.
 
I'll sum up this story for everyone who doesn't speak Russian or Ukrainian, it's an interesting one. It happened in Kharkiv, February 24th.

Colonel ordered Russian troops to block roads out of the city. At one such road, eventually locals amassed as they wanted to leave to go home, for work or some other reason, confrontation happened, spontaneous protest.
Russian colonel got sick of it and gave the order to start shooting at the civilians. Cars started turning back and driving away, some people took cover. Then Ukrainian forces arrived at the scene and a firefight ensued.
This Russian private (I'm going to call him private) with a lieutenant from another platoon decided to save civilians, helping them to find cover behind "blocks" (concrete blocks, I assume). They took elderly mother (~50 years old) with her daughter (~20-25 years old) out of the car and hid them behind one of these concrete blocks, staying with them for around 20 minutes.
Colonel noticed them and ordered his troops to shoot them as well. Lieutenant first got hit in the helmet, then in carotid artery and died on the spot. Elderly mother died next.
Private managed to escape with the daughter in the end.
Here's the videos, Russian soldier's testimony has subs, apparently, so there was no point in me trying to translate it.

Testimony of the captured Russian soldier:

And the young Ukrainian woman corroborating it:

Video by the same woman from that scene a day later, showing both her mother and the soldier who died trying to protect her:

If you're still simping for Russia at this point, go die in a fire.

People seem to always frame it as simping for Russia. Seems like the media has got everyone emotionally invested.

Didn't care about the 1.3 million deaths in Yemen did you? Did you even know it happened? Wheres the megathread?
 
People seem to always frame it as simping for Russia. Seems like the media has got everyone emotionally invested.

Didn't care about the 1.3 million deaths in Yemen did you? Did you even know it happened? Wheres the megathread?
I've got reasons to be concerned, as I happen to live in the country-aggressor with relatives in the country under its fire.
And I'm not sure what else to call attempts to justify unjustifiable, other than terminal retardation.
 

Russian 'crime against humanity' as 500kg-bomb airstrike kills 21 including children​

Footage taken at the scene in Sumy shows the devastating aftermath of the Russian attack, with small bodies being pulled from the rubble and blood-splattered rocks

A Russian airstrike has left 21 people dead, including two children, as Russian pilots 'dropped 500-kilogram bombs' on the Ukrainian city of Sumy.

Footage taken at the scene of the shelling shows the devastating aftermath of the attack, with small bodies being pulled from the rubble and blood-splattered rocks.

One of a team of men working to excavate the bodies is seen gently lying a blanket over the face of an unmoving body, before moving away to help elsewhere.

A video of the scene, too graphic for the Mirror to show, was shared to Twitter by Ukraine’s Ambassador to Austria, Olexander Scherba, who described it as the “Barbaric bombardment” of a residential area in Sumy on Monday night.


“18 dead civilians. Many children,” he wrote.

Sumy authorities have this morning confirmed the death toll from the strike now sits at 21.

A tweet from Ukraine's Centre for Strategic Communications and Information Security (Stratcom Centre UA) about the horror attack said: "Last night Russian pilots committed another crime against humanity in Sumy.

"They dropped 500-kilogram bombs on residential buildings. " it continued.

"#StopRussia"

Dmytro Zhyvytsky, who leads the Sumy Regional Military Administration, also shared a video of the reported attack online.

"The kids are being killed..” he said.

“We will never forgive this!"

It comes as Russia has this morning opened "humanitarian corridors" so people can be evacuated from Sumy and four other Ukrainian cities: Cherhihiv, Kyiv, Kharkiv and Mariupol.

A humanitarian corridor is designed as a demilitarised zone that would allow people out safely, with the aim of reducing the number of civilians killed or wounded by attacks on cities.

They are set up as a way of reducing civilian casualties during war.

The corridors would effectively be a safe route where Russian forces would hold fire, an idea first requested by French President Emmanuel Macron, according to the Interfax news agency.

Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk said the first convoy would start at 10 a.m. (0800 GMT) from the city of Sumy.

The convoy will be followed by the local population in personal vehicles," she said in a televised statement.

The Ukrainian authorities have also announced that people living in areas particularly badly impacted by war can apply for a relief payment of 6500 UAH (£165).

The first images of the effort to get civilians out of the bombarded city of Sumy have been shared online this morning.

Russian troops invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24. Moscow calls its actions in Ukraine a "special military operation."

The United Nations (UN) has reported that around 1.5 million people have fled the country since the invasion started.

However, many more people are believed to be trapped by the violence.

Russia proposed giving the residents of Sumy, in northeastern Ukraine, and Mariupol, a southern port city, the choice of moving elsewhere in Ukraine on Tuesday, Russian news agencies reported.

Other humanitarian corridors proposed by Russia would travel through Russia or Belarus, something Ukrainian authorities have previously rejected.

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky branded the move as “completely immoral” and blamed Russia for trying to "use people's suffering to create a television picture".

They added: "They are citizens of Ukraine, they should have the right to evacuate to the territory of Ukraine".

"This is one of the problems that is causing the humanitarian corridors to break down. They seem to agree to them, but they themselves want to supply humanitarian aid for a picture on TV, and want the corridors to lead in their direction."

Speaking on BBC Breakfast The Europe Minister, James Cleverly, said the offer was “cynical beyond belief”, criticising the corridors as "routes into the arms of the country that is currently destroying yours".

 

Zelensky says 'Western offices' will share responsibility for war by 'weak invaders'​


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that Western “offices” will share responsibility for the bloodshed in Ukraine.

“While Russians are to blame for the killings, responsibility is shared by those who for 13 days in their Western offices haven’t been able to approve an obviously necessary decision, who didn’t save our cities from these bombs and missiles – although they can,” Zelensky said in an address, as translated by the Kyiv Independent.

“If the world becomes aside, it will lose itself. Forever and ever. For there are unconditional values. For everyone the same. This is life first and foremost. The right to life for everyone. Exactly what we fight for in Ukraine. Exactly what these weak invaders want to deprive us of. Exactly what the world needs to be protected,” Zelensky said on the 13th day of war.


"Neil Cavuto of Fox welcomed onto the show
@IAPonomarenko
, the "Kyiv Independent" reporter who declares himself a "brother in arms" of the overtly neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. Offering his objective analysis, Ponomarenko gave a highly negative assessment of Russia's military progress"

"Pundits who just spent years in blithering 24/7 outrage about the alleged threat of "Nazis" in the US (largely fake) now cheer the delivery of high-grade weapons to a Battalion that unapologetically proclaims fidelity to the historical Nazis, and literally sports their insignia"

 
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You're a liar. The Russians are demonstrably NOT doing that. There may be a few stray shells but the fact is that Russians are showing remarkable restraint.

>remarkable restraint

If they're showing remarkable restraint, why in the absolute fuck are the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian civilians either hiding in bomb shelters, subway stations, and basements or fleeing the country outright?

You're doubly a liar. - If the Russians wanted to raze a city to the ground, they'd have no trouble doing so - look at Grozny for proof. In reality, the Russians are incurring unnecessary losses precisely because they are trying very hard to cause as little damage as possible to non-military infrastructure, as well as preserving civilian lives.
Stop lying, nigger.

I'm not one for name-calling, but are you fucking shitting me right now? Chechnya literally wrote the playbook for how the Russians handle their military operations. The first Chechen war literally started off with a poorly-planned multi-pronged assault with "light" aerial bombing campaigns to soften up Grozny before the platoons marched into the city. What happened in reality is that the Russian convoys couldn't deal with the mountainous terrain and were easily assaulted by Chechen guerillas who targeted their logistics teams. By the time what was left of the convoys made it into Grozny, the guerillas retreated into the mountains to regroup. This led to an extremely protracted war where tens of thousands died on both sides in some demented contest between the two to see who can inflict more damage to the other side.

By the time Putin became prime minister of Russia, he decided to just raze Grozny to the ground because the humiliation of losing to guerillas was too much for him to bear. Hell, he didn't even ultimately win the war because he just decided to ally himself with Akhmad Kadyrov and later Ramzan Kadyrov and let them rule over Chechnya with a steel fist. Hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars gets funnelled into Chechnya specifically to pacify the region by either funding massive infrastructure projects (i.e. rebuilding Grozny) or by funding the Kadyrov security apparatus.

Why is this relevant? Because the same fucking shit is happening in Ukraine right now. The Russians gravely overestimated their own competence, they suffered a shitload of logistical failures and losses in personnel/military hardware, and now they can't deal with the humiliation so they just resorted to indiscriminately bombing the shit out of Ukraine until they capitulate (which the Ukrainians won't ever do because now their sovereignty is dealing with an existential threat).

Also, "stop lying, nigger?" My guy, I don't trust pro-Ukraine shit at face value, but the Russian propaganda machine along with other pro-Russian shills have literally shifted the rationale for the invasion multiple times to fit the current reality of the situation on the ground. Let's count all the shit that I've seen from either Kremlin propaganda or from other pro-Russia spergs in the Happenings thread:
  • De-Nazifying the country
  • Liberating Ukraine from Western influence
  • Beating back muh globohomo
  • Secret nuclearisation operations
  • Secret biolabs funded by the USA
  • Genocide against Russians
  • Historical revisionism over Ukraine's right to exist as a sovereign nation
The list just keeps going on and on, and it will continue to grow with time. Face the fucking music: Russia huffed their own farts one too many times because they got cocky over their contentious "successes" in smaller countries/autonomies like Chechnya, Georgia, and Syria. They can't even fully secure their own supply lines in Kyiv despite it being a mere 90-some odd miles from the goddamn Russian/Belarusian border! What makes you think that Russia won't bleed itself dry trying to win this "special operation" in Ukraine?
 
The US army is pretty well diversified these days even getting Mexicans coming in to help train for when they go to work for the cartels. Whoopi is just repeating the common pitch among the Uniparty now which is being framed as a sort of light war against Russia since they don't make the automatic connection between no fly zones and it meaning war with Russia.

Which is why I think The View news is a bit newsworthy, it means these sales pitches are being made in quite a bit of lib media and that people will eat it up.
Army infantry and related MOS are still the purview of the redneck, and that's how they're portrayed in news, film and print media. If there is war with Russia a draft would be be likely and she and other black celebrities would turn anti-war in a heartbeat; in fact, everyone demanding we "close the sky" (good Lord is there a better example of how the media patronizes everyone) would start making peace signs and march to "end the violence".
 
>remarkable restraint

If they're showing remarkable restraint, why in the absolute fuck are the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian civilians either hiding in bomb shelters, subway stations, and basements or fleeing the country outright?



I'm not one for name-calling, but are you fucking shitting me right now? Chechnya literally wrote the playbook for how the Russians handle their military operations. The first Chechen war literally started off with a poorly-planned multi-pronged assault with "light" aerial bombing campaigns to soften up Grozny before the platoons marched into the city. What happened in reality is that the Russian convoys couldn't deal with the mountainous terrain and were easily assaulted by Chechen guerillas who targeted their logistics teams. By the time what was left of the convoys made it into Grozny, the guerillas retreated into the mountains to regroup. This led to an extremely protracted war where tens of thousands died on both sides in some demented contest between the two to see who can inflict more damage to the other side.

By the time Putin became prime minister of Russia, he decided to just raze Grozny to the ground because the humiliation of losing to guerillas was too much for him to bear. Hell, he didn't even ultimately win the war because he just decided to ally himself with Akhmad Kadyrov and later Ramzan Kadyrov and let them rule over Chechnya with a steel fist. Hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars gets funnelled into Chechnya specifically to pacify the region by either funding massive infrastructure projects (i.e. rebuilding Grozny) or by funding the Kadyrov security apparatus.

Why is this relevant? Because the same fucking shit is happening in Ukraine right now. The Russians gravely overestimated their own competence, they suffered a shitload of logistical failures and losses in personnel/military hardware, and now they can't deal with the humiliation so they just resorted to indiscriminately bombing the shit out of Ukraine until they capitulate (which the Ukrainians won't ever do because now their sovereignty is dealing with an existential threat).

Also, "stop lying, nigger?" My guy, I don't trust pro-Ukraine shit at face value, but the Russian propaganda machine along with other pro-Russian shills have literally shifted the rationale for the invasion multiple times to fit the current reality of the situation on the ground. Let's count all the shit that I've seen from either Kremlin propaganda or from other pro-Russia spergs in the Happenings thread:
  • De-Nazifying the country
  • Liberating Ukraine from Western influence
  • Beating back muh globohomo
  • Secret nuclearisation operations
  • Secret biolabs funded by the USA
  • Genocide against Russians
  • Historical revisionism over Ukraine's right to exist as a sovereign nation
The list just keeps going on and on, and it will continue to grow with time. Face the fucking music: Russia huffed their own farts one too many times because they got cocky over their contentious "successes" in smaller countries/autonomies like Chechnya, Georgia, and Syria. They can't even fully secure their own supply lines in Kyiv despite it being a mere 90-some odd miles from the goddamn Russian/Belarusian border! What makes you think that Russia won't bleed itself dry trying to win this "special operation" in Ukraine?
It's as if Russian "tactics" only work against small groups of people who you have overwhelming force to throw at, and aren't quite as successful when you invade a heavily armed and well prepared nation of 40 million, backed by technologically and economically superior partner countries.
 

Russia warns West of $300 per barrel oil, cuts to EU gas supply​


Western countries could face oil prices of over $300 per barrel and the possible closure of the main Russia-Germany gas pipeline if governments follow through on threats to cut energy supplies from Russia, a senior minister said on Monday.

Oil prices spiked to their highest levels since 2008 on Monday after U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Washington and European allies were considering banning Russian oil imports.


"It is absolutely clear that a rejection of Russian oil would lead to catastrophic consequences for the global market," Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said in a statement on state television.

"The surge in prices would be unpredictable. It would be $300 per barrel if not more."

Novak said it would take Europe more than a year to replace the volume of oil it receives from Russia and it would have to pay significantly higher prices.


"European politicians need to honestly warn their citizens and consumers what to expect," Novak said.

"If you want to reject energy supplies from Russia, go ahead. We are ready for it. We know where we could redirect the volumes to."

Novak said Russia, which supplies 40% of Europe's gas, was fulfilling its obligations in full but that it would be entirely within its rights to retaliate against the European Union after Germany last month froze the certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.


"In connection with ... the imposition of a ban on Nord Stream 2, we have every right to take a matching decision and impose an embargo on gas pumping through the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline," Novak said.

"So far we are not taking such a decision," he said. "But European politicians with their statements and accusations against Russia push us towards that."

 
Army infantry and related MOS are still the purview of the redneck, and that's how they're portrayed in news, film and print media. If there is war with Russia a draft would be be likely and she and other black celebrities would turn anti-war in a heartbeat; in fact, everyone demanding we "close the sky" (good Lord is there a better example of how the media patronizes everyone) would start making peace signs and march to "end the violence".
The US military has become a playground for assholes wanting to force soldiers to walk in high heels for feminist causes and other such bullshit, so it's about as globohomo as they come.

And if a war did come against Russia, all left wingers have been primed for years to be adamantly against Russia, viewing them as equivalent to the devil and would be approving of any measures against them no matter the death toll.

If we were talking about a country like Yemen or some shit, then yeah left wingers would be out in droves denouncing involvement, but they've already been primed to give a shit about this because they've been told how awful Russia is and they're subverting elections by making voters more informed. Which personally I'm fine with given I think Ukraine is in the right even if they want to start slitting the throats of Russians trying to escape the conflict given the shit that's happened.
 
Why is this relevant? Because the same fucking shit is happening in Ukraine right now. The Russians gravely overestimated their own competence, they suffered a shitload of logistical failures and losses in personnel/military hardware, and now they can't deal with the humiliation so they just resorted to indiscriminately bombing the shit out of Ukraine until they capitulate (which the Ukrainians won't ever do because now their sovereignty is dealing with an existential threat).

What's been especially surprising to me is the extent of this overestimation. If the reports about things like Russian soldiers not knowing where to go, or not even having been given basic objectives are true, then that more or less means that the entirety of the Russian military command needs to be tossed. I wonder if this clusterfuck can be attributed to the military brass simply keeping Putin in the dark as to their combat readiness, or if everyone including Putin just thought it was a matter of throwing enough people at it.

But I'm glad you brought up their historical results, as it made me realize that I had this idea in my head about Putin being super-capable...and I can't come up with any reason for why I thought that. It also brings to mind this article about people's perception of Xi Jinping.
 
What's been especially surprising to me is the extent of this overestimation. If the reports about things like Russian soldiers not knowing where to go, or not even having been given basic objectives are true, then that more or less means that the entirety of the Russian military command needs to be tossed. I wonder if this clusterfuck can be attributed to the military brass simply keeping Putin in the dark as to their combat readiness, or if everyone including Putin just thought it was a matter of throwing enough people at it.

But I'm glad you brought up their historical results, as it made me realize that I had this idea in my head about Putin being super-capable...and I can't come up with any reason for why I thought that. It also brings to mind this article about people's perception of Xi Jinping.

From what I remember from talking to a foreign soldier. The word around town is that the US is amazing on logistics. Though according to him the amount of friendly fire or near friendly fire incidents involving the US were substantial. "If the Americans say they are about to attack, hide"
 
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What's been especially surprising to me is the extent of this overestimation. If the reports about things like Russian soldiers not knowing where to go, or not even having been given basic objectives are true, then that more or less means that the entirety of the Russian military command needs to be tossed. I wonder if this clusterfuck can be attributed to the military brass simply keeping Putin in the dark as to their combat readiness, or if everyone including Putin just thought it was a matter of throwing enough people at it.

But I'm glad you brought up their historical results, as it made me realize that I had this idea in my head about Putin being super-capable...and I can't come up with any reason for why I thought that. It also brings to mind this article about people's perception of Xi Jinping.
There will be lots to think about in this regard, however here are my two cents:

Dictatorships built on fear are not a place where open and honest self-reflection can take place across an organisation. Therefore, how can an organisation like their army or airforce learn from their mistakes - they can't even admit things aren't going to plan when the entire world can see, how can you expect it to happen throughout their military when speak against the grain gets you imprisoned.

How can their leaders make the right decisions if they are blinded by their own arrogance, shielded from reality to salve their egos?

Ukraine, on the other hand, despite its inferiority in terms of materiel has undergone an 8 year long process of aligning it's military more towards Western standards. The UK and US have had an extensive training mission, they have basically overhauled how they do business. Now they're inflicting horrible losses on the military of their neighbour which is deemed to be militarily superior. The equipment they are using is - in most instances - worse on paper than that of the Russians (except Comms equipment, rations... All the boring but vital stuff).

Point is, this lack of transparency, auditing, accountability, continuous improvement and training which is part of Western militaries - and probably derived somewhat from our political and personal lives and values - I think is the key difference.
 
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