Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

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  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

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Blacks were going to rape the white woman anyway, you being too generous to them.

Does Russia have some sort of equivalent to the Monroe Doctrine that they have a name for, if anyone else knows?
I just googled that exact thing and couldn't find an actual name but I did find a very interesting article from 2014 which could pretty much have been written by half the people in this thread (if they had a Flowers for Algernon style treatment to make them write in a less retarded manner).

The US Needs to Recognize Russia’s Monroe Doctrine
The current U.S. attitude is more than a little hypocritical.

U.S. leaders once understood and accepted that strong powers would insist on a security zone and broad sphere of influence in their immediate geographic region. Indeed, as just a middling power, the United States boldly asserted such a policy with the proclamation of the Monroe Doctrine in 1823. The key passage warned conservative European monarchies: “We should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety.”

Yet, U.S. policymakers now denounce as illegitimate similar bids to establish even modest security zones by other major powers. That point is especially evident in Washington’s conduct toward Russia.

The United States and its NATO allies officially repudiate even the concept of spheres of influence, contending that it has no place in the modern international system. Condoleezza Rice, President George W. Bush’s secretary of state, made that point explicitly in response to Moscow’s 2008 military intervention in Georgia. She scorned the notion of Russian primacy along the perimeter of the Russian Federation as the manifestation of “some archaic sphere of influence.” Secretary of State John Kerry expresses similar views. In November 2013, he even declared that “the era of the Monroe Doctrine is over.” Following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the Kremlin’s unsubtle support for secessionist forces in eastern Ukraine, Kerry asserted that “you don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion” by invading a neighbor.

The current U.S. attitude is more than a little hypocritical. Contrary to Kerry’s rhetoric, the Monroe Doctrine is very much alive. Washington has intervened militarily as recently as the 1980s (Grenada and Panama) or even the 1990s (Haiti) within its traditional sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere.

Russia’s brass knuckles tactics toward Kiev may be jarring to Western observers, but U.S. leaders need to recognize that Ukraine has long had economic and strategic relevance to Moscow. Any Russian government was bound to resent an attempt to wrench Ukraine into the West’s geopolitical orbit. And that is what Washington and its European allies did by supporting the Maidan Square demonstrators who overthrew Ukraine’s pro‐Russian, but duly elected, president, Viktor Yanukovych.

It is always a useful exercise for policymakers to view a situation as though the positions of the various parties were reversed. Imagine what the U.S. reaction would be if Russia (or any other major power) expanded a military alliance that it led and proceeded to incorporate Caribbean and Central American countries. That scenario is analogous to how a U.S.-led NATO expanded to include East European nations near or on Russia’s border. Consider further how Washington would likely react if the rival power then spoke openly of offering membership in its alliance to Canada and Mexico, and used its influence to unseat a pro‑U.S. government in one of those countries. At a minimum, U.S. officials would be screaming about a blatant violation of the Monroe Doctrine and would regard the rival power’s moves as profoundly threatening.

It is illogical to assume that Moscow should view comparable Western machinations differently. The blunt truth is that the United States and its allies intruded into a traditional Russian sphere of influence—indeed, into a zone that Moscow considers essential to national security. U.S. leaders should recognize that their conduct has violated an implicit Russian equivalent of the Monroe Doctrine. The West needs to back off before it triggers what former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev aptly described in a recent speech as a new Cold War.

Indeed, such a confrontation might not remain cold. Already, Russian military aircraft and their NATO counterparts have come dangerously close. The potential for an inadvertent clash or a tragic miscalculation by one side or the other is reaching worrisome levels. There is no justification for running such risks.

Russia’s behavior toward its neighbors may be abrasive, but it is operating as major powers tend to do in their sphere of influence. U.S. leaders once understood that reality. It is unfortunate, and potentially disastrous, that our current policymakers apparently do not.
 
It's great to know that Brandon tells me I am dealing a blow to Putin's war machine as I spend my afternoon sitting in line at the gas station.
And paying $15 for a new steel colander.

AOCunt won. I'm finally using that economy setting on my car that stops the engine automatically when my car is stopped in traffic as I wait for my turn at the pump.
No way I'm taking my drivetrain out of sport mode though. I don't spend my nights taking "emergency" phone calls from Pajeets who think testing software before they install it to a production environment is not "doing the needful". Full economy settings is for poors.
I stand for CAPITALISM

EDIT: That was quick. People are topping off. I swear the guy in front of me couldn't have put much more than a gallon in.
Must be a lot of Snow Birds cause I was the only one filling up 10 gallon cans, a Florida Man tradition when faced with adversity.

Okay. Spell check is just fucking with me now
 
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Don't worry, I hate fat people too.
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More on-topic, I noticed the New York Stock Exchange rebounded significantly mid-day (ExxonMobil dropped while the Dow and most other stocks jumped the opposite direction). Was this due to Biden's speech to not buy Russian oil?
 
The day Tucker shows a bunch of Azov Battlation and Jews together doing Heil Hitlers on Fox News, will break America hard.
It won't change anything. The other outlets won't talk about it, the fact checkers will say "achually...." and Salon will have an article talking about how real Nazism can only come from a place of privilege.
 
McDonald's is a franchising business, so they don't actually own those locations. If this is true, and they are going to force those licensees to shut down the locations and fuck up their livelihood. This will not really hurt McDonalds as a company themselves, it's just a weak virtue signal. They are just going to sacrifice a couple of small businesses. (licensees usually own just one restaurant)
Supposedly only 15% of the businesses are franchises in Russia. The vast majority of them are corporately owned. The interesting thing in the announcement was:

"We understand the impact this will have on our Russian colleagues and partners, which is why we are prepared to support all three legs of the stool in Ukraine and Russia. This includes salary continuation for all McDonald’s employees in Russia."

So they are closing all the locations, but everyone employed directly by them in Russia is still going to be paid.
 
Nigerian Civil War is my favorite. Just look at this mash up of conflicting cold war loyalties (and Israel doing both sides of course):
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Since I love quoting the Iran-Iraq War so much, here is the list.

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And here is how shit the Iraqis were, despite all that support from two major superpowers. Keep in mind this is 3 years before Desert Storm.

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I swear to god the western media having to tip toe around the fuckton of Nazi symbols in the Ukrainian military is one of the most hilarious things in this, motherfuckers can't post a pic without accidentally showing someone mid Hitler salute
The day Tucker shows a bunch of Azov Battlation and Jews together doing Heil Hitlers on Fox News, will break America hard.
Putin is Emmanuel Goldstein now. Anyone noticing that the Ukraine has actual Nazhees fighting for them will go over as well as "Democrats arr da real raycists."

The Azov battalion has already been Snopesplained away.
 
Is that why the last Century has been nothing but wars and proxy wars?

A major motivator for Sherman's March to the Sea was his understanding that men largely fight on behalf of women, and that women consider men suffering and dying on their behalf to really be quite romantic and noble. Bring the suffering home to the women, and their appetite for war will dry right up.

Brilliant lad. The South will never forgive him. Grant killed far, far more Southern boys, but Sherman made the women go hungry.
 
I don't like the argument though that you should accept Russian aggression because you're telling me they're crazy and willing to launch the nukes because they can't have Ukraine.

Now I don't want NATO there as well, but I see this often where especially Russians think they're being coy by threatening to stab you every time you do something to upset them. Imagine how crazy international politics would be if every nuclear nation played the "I'll nuke you if you escalate this" card
This isn't some new, minor conflict that just erupted for no reason at all just last month because...... reasons. This has been brewing since 2001 after the first NATO expansion and escalating greatly since the western-backed coup in 2014.
 
Supposedly only 15% of the businesses are franchises in Russia. The vast majority of them are corporately owned. The interesting thing in the announcement was:
Kinda strange that according to McDonald's:
McDonald’s is the world’s leading global foodservice retailer with over 38,000 locations in over 100 countries. Approximately 93% Of McDonald’s restaurants worldwide are owned and operated by independent local business owners. The status of franchising in the markets where we currently do business is described on the specific pages identified by market below.
There might be some weird different definitions used here. I dont think such a high percentage of those 7% are are in Russia. Unless they count big local corporations as "independent local business owners", which might very well be the case.
 
More on-topic, I noticed the New York Stock Exchange rebounded significantly mid-day (ExxonMobil dropped while the Dow and most other stocks jumped the opposite direction). Was this due to Biden's speech to not buy Russian oil?
Oil was still up about 5% today. The improvements seem to mostly be due to a belief that the federal reserve will no longer be raising interest rates and that there are signs that the congress is starting to think about new "stimulus" legislation in reaction to the war. Stocks are going up somewhat on the belief that nobody is going to do anything about inflation or that there will be new policies that will increase inflation.
As in many situations these days, stocks going up is more of a sign of a bad economy than a good one.
 
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