Preston Poulter et al v. Ali "Dean" Assaf et al (2021)

[Zigzag]

That right there is my point exactly.

Surely it doesn't make any sense that collections can proceed if she was never served. If the first time she gets a letter in NC saying "time to pay up" she then turns round and says "lolwut I was never served" her lawyer will (then) take care of it.

Surely as long as she has even the basic, lowest levels of proof she always lived in NC and was never served (bills / bank statements / rent statements) that go back before the mess started it should be trivial to get the judgement overturned

She can’t act like she had no clue because she has left evidence she knew she was being sued. I was there where her work was called the one she states she worked at said she hadn’t worked there since November. It was on a video call we all heard so we are witnesses to that. There’s other stuff. She is no different from the chick in vic lawsuit who hid. But good luck to her. Everyone has told her get a lawyer she would rather bury her head in the sand . Oh well.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I was there where her work was called the one she states she worked at said she hadn’t worked there since November. It was on a video call we all heard so we are witnesses to that.

They called her work to find an address to serve her and the phone rang in the background of a livestream call?

 

[RodgerDodger]

She can’t act like she had no clue because she has left evidence she knew she was being sued. I was there where her work was called the one she states she worked at said she hadn’t worked there since November. It was on a video call we all heard so we are witnesses to that. There’s other stuff. She is no different from the chick in vic lawsuit who hid. But good luck to her. Everyone has told her get a lawyer she would rather bury her head in the sand . Oh well.

It doesn't matter. It does not matter if she knew about the lawsuit if she was never properly served as a party to the lawsuit.

 

[AnOminous]

She is no different from the chick in vic lawsuit who hid. But good luck to her.

That bitch got a lawyer though at a strip mall office who charged less than any other lawyer in the case and got the best results.

 

[Captain Manning]

That bitch got a lawyer though at a strip mall office who charged less than any other lawyer in the case and got the best results.

That's ALL these two dumbasses had to do here. FROG's lawyer would have taken care of the rest with a joint motion claiming improper jurisdiction. Indeed, it would have likely cost way less than Marchi paid, because Marchi's attorney had to do most things on their own (and probably billed accordingly). I don't recall if there ever a joint motion in the Vic case. I think they all acted separately, didn't they?

 

[Zigzag]

They called her work to find an address to serve her and the phone rang in the background of a livestream call?

Yes he had on speaker


We where not on a livestream but a discord chat voice call talking to each other about it. He said ok I’ll call be quiet and we all listened in. Don’t believe me ask Preston.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

Preston called Cuts-4-Muttz in North Carolina, asked for Vikki, and was told that she no longer worked there?

 

[Captain Manning]

She can’t act like she had no clue because she has left evidence she knew she was being sued

Okay, listen...

1. I am pretty sure you are Cheyenne70 in Preston's Discord. Preston's Discord leaks like a sieve, and the atrocious grammar is a dead giveaway.

2. No. KNOWING about a lawsuit is not the same thing as being SERVED with a lawsuit. There is a PROCEDURE you have to follow, and if you want to ask somebody to waive service, there is a PROCEDURE for that is well. See Fed R. Civ P. 4(d). Some people chose to waive service because the trade off is you get 60 days to respond, instead of 30. There is no clause... NONE... in the FRCP that says if somebody admits on a notorious shitposting website that somebody is attempting to serve them with a lawsuit, they have effectively been served, or have waived service. It simply does not work like that. The rules are very stringent.

Now, there IS ample Federal case law that supports the notion that alternative means of service outside of Rule 4 is permissible under certain circumstances. Such as delivering the relevant documents over electronic mail. However you HAVE to ask the court for permission to do that. Otherwise, it's route adherence to Rule 4.

I'm sure @AnOminous can explain this better than me, but the lawyer I work for on occasion, who is admitted to practice in both the District of Arizona, and the 9th CoA (which is the Federal appeals court for Arizona), told me the same thing. I don't know where you're getting your info from. It's either a retard, or somebody like @Spectre_06 (but I repeat myself).

We where not on a livestream but a discord chat voice call talking to each other about it. He said ok I’ll call be quiet and we all listened in.

And naturally you have a recording of this?

And why, pray tell, if she doesn't work at Cutz-4-Mutz, did you guys end up way the hell out on the other side of the country with an address that is 15 years old?

Did she live there, move to North Carolina to groom dogs, and then move back in to the same exact appartment? That stretches credulity.

Don’t believe me ask Preston.

I don't think anybody is going to take that pegged faggot's word at face value for anything. Not after he famously claimed Lamont was banned from Kickstarter, and then retracted that claim at the 11th hour because it is, and always was, a lie. I think you're gonna have to do better than that.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm sure @AnOminous can explain this better than me, but the lawyer I work for on occasion, who is admitted to practice in both the District of Arizona, and the 9th CoA (which is the Federal appeals court for Arizona), told me the same thing. I don't know where you're getting your info from. It's either a retard, or somebody like @Spectre_06 (but I repeat myself).

If you admit you knew about the lawsuit, that shouldn't be enough by itself, because FRCP 4 is supposed to be very strict. The procedures for service of process are just absolutely basic to the court even having jurisdiction to address the party. Generally, service by alternative means should be because the person is actively evading process. They are not obligated to help you sue them.

That said judges will sometimes just say fuck it and grant that FRCP 4(e) motion on less than stellar grounds. I think one of the suits against nool went this way. At least she hasn't waived the jurisdictional challenge. Yet. Unlike another defendant.

 

[TheShedCollector]

We where not on a livestream but a discord chat voice call talking to each other about it. He said ok I’ll call be quiet and we all listened in. Don’t believe me ask Preston.

Why would anyone want to talk to that pegged cuckholded pedophile?

 

[Zigzag]

Okay, listen...

1. I am pretty sure you are Cheyenne70 in Preston's Discord. Preston's Discord leaks like a sieve, and the atrocious grammar is a dead giveaway.

2. No. KNOWING about a lawsuit is not the same thing as being SERVED with a lawsuit. There is a PROCEDURE you have to follow, and if you want to ask somebody to waive service, there is a PROCEDURE for that is well. See Fed R. Civ P. 4(d). Some people chose to waive service because the trade off is you get 60 days to respond, instead of 30. There is no clause... NONE... in the FRCP that says if somebody admits on a notorious shitposting website that somebody is attempting to serve them with a lawsuit, they have effectively been served, or have waived service. It simply does not work like that. The rules are very stringent.

Now, there IS ample Federal case law that supports the notion that alternative means of service outside of Rule 4 is permissible under certain circumstances. Such as delivering the relevant documents over electronic mail. However you HAVE to ask the court for permission to do that. Otherwise, it's route adherence to Rule 4.

I'm sure @AnOminous can explain this better than me, but the lawyer I work for on occasion, who is admitted to practice in both the District of Arizona, and the 9th CoA (which is the Federal appeals court for Arizona), told me the same thing. I don't know where you're getting your info from. It's either a retard, or somebody like @Spectre_06 (but I repeat myself).


And naturally you have a recording of this?

And why, pray tell, if she doesn't work at Cutz-4-Mutz, did you guys end up way the hell out on the other side of the country with an address that is 15 years old?

Did she live there, move to North Carolina to groom dogs, and then move back in to the same exact appartment? That stretches credulity.


I don't think anybody is going to take that pegged faggot's word at face value for anything. Not after he famously claimed Lamont was banned from Kickstarter, and then retracted that claim at the 11th hour because it is, and always was, a lie. I think you're gonna have to do better than that.

My grammar is bad because I’m lazy. Honest truth. Yes I’m cheyenne70 in Preston discord and on Twitter.
There’s no shame in my game .

Why would anyone want to talk to that pegged cuckholded pedophile?

He’s not a pedo he dates and has sex with women his age. If he’s a pedo for that comic so is jda for his comic they are about the same type of thing. Neither are pedo material.
Now slick jimmy was. He was also promoted by ethan and a few other Cg pros. No preston never promoted him.
Preston on the cancel party said if Jon comic is loli then isn’t lgl. Because of how she was dress the story etc. then vikki herself did a video defending lgl saying what she was wearing was punk. I will repeat this I don’t think vikki is a pedo or knew jimmy was no one did.

Once again if you believe someone is hurting children go to the police. Having a hate mob doesn’t stop a crime. Telling you to go to the police is not pedo defending (that’s what skinny said). I would think you would want a pedo in jail not walking the streets.

 

[TheShedCollector]

He’s not a pedo he dates and has sex with women his age. If he’s a pedo for that comic so is jda for his comic they are about the same type of thing. Neither are pedo material.
Now slick jimmy was. He was also promoted by ethan and a few other Cg pros. No preston never promoted him.
Preston on the cancel party said if Jon comic is loli then isn’t lgl. Because of how she was dress the story etc. then vikki herself did a video defending lgl saying what she was wearing was punk. I will repeat this I don’t think vikki is a pedo or knew jimmy was no one did.

Once again if you believe someone is hurting children go to the police. Having a hate mob doesn’t stop a crime. Telling you to go to the police is not pedo defending (that’s what skinny said). I would think you would want a pedo in jail not walking the streets.

Nah. He's a pedo.

 

[Captain Manning]

Did he delete his post, or did a mod?

Cuz it would have been really fucking funny if @TheCosmicWarrior walked in here and saw him trying to draw a coloration between this:

And this:

 

[TheShedCollector]

Did he delete his post, or did a mod?

Cuz it would have been really fucking funny if @TheCosmicWarrior walked in here and saw him trying to draw a coloration between this:

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And this:

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No idea who deleted it. Either way he's an illiterate retard.

 

[jspit2.0]

She could ignore it until Preston tries to collect in her jurisdiction, then try to collaterally attack the judgment as void because of lack of personal jurisdiction, but this would probably be a very bad idea for a number of reasons. For instance, if you blow the direct appeal deadline, it's blown and you can't raise any defenses you ordinarily could have.

All you can do is challenge whether the judgment was void from the outset (for instance due to lack of personal service). This still leaves the judgment possibly fucking up your credit history even though it can't be enforced, because there's no record of it being appealed in the home state. And showing a judgment was outright void is generally tougher than proving it was merely wrong.

Maybe it's the kind of judgment most people wouldn't bother pursuing collection on but Preston is an angry, vindictive cuck.

This is all very gay and convoluted. I'm watching on as all parties involved make petty decisions and the only losers are the American people who Preston and company have now wasted...how much tax money?

"Married to Cassandra D. Kundert"
@VIkkiVerse Are you a lesbian and married?

Answers allot, I guess.

A court is supposed to notice a lack of jurisdiction on its own when it is this obvious. Assuming of course Vikki was not actually served.

Yeah, government is supposed to do a lot of things and stuff, and regularly manages to fuck it up. That's why @I'm not a Robot is correct, and Vikki is almost certainly gonna need a lawyer to point out any discrepancy between who he claims he served, and who he tries to collect from.

Case in point, Preston got his return of service in on Vikki (legit or no) well after the 90 day deadline (see Fed R. Civ P. 4(m)), the clerk didn't notice that, and so here we are awaiting a formalized default judgement.

Such is government. Your tax dollars at work.

Well, courts are also supposed to ensure that bullshit lolsuits aren't brought by lawyers who have a duty to check the merits.

Failure and disappointment abounds. Guess we can share that feeling with Poulter's parents.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

Forgive the gif, but the day of judgment has arrived and I felt fireworks were in order. You might be thinking, "Are we seriously celebrating Vikki owing Preston a million bucks?" or "Did Dean finally get a lawyer?" Nothing so pedestrian for the fine folks of the farms for today we have something truly spectacular.

THE FEIN LAW FIRM, P.C. vs. PRESTON POULTER, et al​

On February 2nd, 2022, The Fein Law Firm filed a lawsuit against Preston Poulter and John Lamont for breach of contract. These were the lawyers they initially hired to draft the complaint against Ethan, Vikki, and Dean. The law firm alleges that Preston and John owe them $15,549 for services which have not been paid. An invoice attached as an exhibit indicates they were billed more than $23,000. Preston argues he shouldn't have to pay all that because they let @FROG get away, the complaint had to be amended, and they continued billing him after they were fired. He has requested the court order the parties to arbitration.

There is a hearing scheduled on March 17th on the initial dismissal docket and another on April 22nd on the motion to enforce arbitration. A non-jury trial is scheduled for December 13th, 2022. Preston and John are being represented by the same attorneys currently working on this lawsuit.

Spoiler: Plaintiff's original petition

Spoiler: Defendant's answer and motion to enforce arbitration

Hippity hoppity, I shouldn't have to pay because you let @FROG jump out of my property

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

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Forgive the gif, but the day of judgment has arrived and I felt fireworks were in order. You might be thinking, "Are we seriously celebrating Vikki owing Preston a million bucks?" or "Did Dean finally get a lawyer?" Nothing so pedestrian for the fine folks of the farms for today we have something truly spectacular.

THE FEIN LAW FIRM, P.C. vs. PRESTON POULTER, et al​

On February 2nd, 2022, The Fein Law Firm filed a lawsuit against Preston Poulter and John Lamont for breach of contract. These were the lawyers they initially hired to draft the complaint. They allege that Preston and John owe them $15,549 for services which have not been paid. An invoice attached as an exhibit indicates were billed more than $23,000. Preston argues he shouldn't have to pay all that because they let @FROG get away, the complaint had to be amended, and they continued billing him after they were fired. He has requested the court order the parties to arbitration.

There is a hearing scheduled on March 17th on the initial dismissal docket and another on April 22nd on the motion to enforce arbitration. A non-jury trial is scheduled for December 13th, 2022. Preston and John are being represented by the same attorneys currently working on this lawsuit.

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Spoiler: Plaintiff's original petition

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Spoiler: Defendant's answer and motion to enforce arbitration

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Hippity hoppity, I shouldn't have to pay because you let @FROG jump out of my property

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Holy shit!
@PocketJacks imagine being such a shitty client that the law firm you previously employed is suing you!

 

[TheShedCollector]

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Forgive the gif, but the day of judgment has arrived and I felt fireworks were in order. You might be thinking, "Are we seriously celebrating Vikki owing Preston a million bucks?" or "Did Dean finally get a lawyer?" Nothing so pedestrian for the fine folks of the farms for today we have something truly spectacular.

THE FEIN LAW FIRM, P.C. vs. PRESTON POULTER, et al​

On February 2nd, 2022, The Fein Law Firm filed a lawsuit against Preston Poulter and John Lamont for breach of contract. These were the lawyers they initially hired to draft the complaint. They allege that Preston and John owe them $15,549 for services which have not been paid. An invoice attached as an exhibit indicates were billed more than $23,000. Preston argues he shouldn't have to pay all that because they let @FROG get away, the complaint had to be amended, and they continued billing him after they were fired. He has requested the court order the parties to arbitration.

There is a hearing scheduled on March 17th on the initial dismissal docket and another on April 22nd on the motion to enforce arbitration. A non-jury trial is scheduled for December 13th, 2022. Preston and John are being represented by the same attorneys currently working on this lawsuit.

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Spoiler: Plaintiff's original petition

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Spoiler: Defendant's answer and motion to enforce arbitration

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Hippity hoppity, I shouldn't have to pay because you let @FROG jump out of my property

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Exceptional work sir. I salute you.

So, in addition to pegged cuckold, idiot and paedophile, we can now also add the word "deadbeat" to Prestons list of character flaws.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

The $15,000 bill sent to Preston has his Mommy's name on it.

(Warranty deed showing that Preston's mom is Gail Airoldi)

 

[Not a fake name]

Well, Preston is gonna get fucked for those attorney fees.
Every bill I’ve ever gotten from a lawyer has always come with an explanation of charges (what they worked on, who they called etc) and billed in 6 minute increments. You are going to be hard pressed to prove they didn’t do what, when.

Preston’s defense of they didn’t do what I wanted, probably means he was asking for something that’s not legally sound or had no evidence to support. Any good lawyer will tell them that’s not possible and won’t include it.
Throwing useless shit at your lawyer is also how your billable hours skyrocket.