Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Kermit Jizz]

So are the biolabs real? I normally wouldn't believe it but the US news is so coordinated against it which usually means it's true. Has it always been this obvious or have tptb gotten lazy?

Neither, this is just such a colossal fuck up they're in full panic mode.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Found on Twitter.
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Ask them how many are willing to pick up a gun and willing be beaten by holhols for just dressing a bit too nice.

 

[mate]

Ukies have been posing with dead bodies, which according to some (but not all) countries is a war crime. I'd probably do the same though. There is something incredibly dank about using emojis and filters on a dead combatant and you can quote me on that.

All images are thumbnails so please don't lose your shit, jannies.

Spoiler: NSFW dead lads

Sorry for the censored one. Can't find uncensored.

Less dank is this very obvious execution of a Russian soldier. They clearly armed his body again after he was dead but forgot to unchain his leg from the lamp post... smh. Schoolboy error. They're lucky they have the full weight of the lugenpress behind them.

Spoiler: NSFW executed lad

Last but not least some NSFW pics from the massacre of the VDV at Hostomel. Bless those boys but they're not having a good war.

Spoiler: NSFW Hostomel stuff

All in all I can say that if the Russians were sharing these pics we'd all be talking about how awful and callous they are. I can also say that the VDV are having an absolutely shit time, to the extent that this whole escapade will have really damaged their reputation.

Sorry if any of those were posted before, whenever I get behind I just go through the highlights.

 

[Strix454]

Highlight from the Pentagon Briefing yesterday. The transcription is the official one.

Q: Thank you. The New York Times and the BBC have published a series of maps that show Russia taking control of large swaths of the northeast edge of Ukraine, and increasingly encircling Kyiv. Is the Pentagon assessment remain that the Russian military campaign in the north is stalled? Thank you.

SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: I -- I think I just gave you guys an update, Nancy. I mean, I -- I said that they've made the -- they -- they have made some progress around Kharkiv, and -- and they've made progress in the south towards -- towards Mykolaiv. They've isolated Mariupol in the south. The fighting around Chernihiv remains very thick, and they are -- and they are around the city of Chernihiv, and the -- and as I said, in terms of Kyiv, we don't -- and we don't see any major changes from -- from yesterday to today. They're still the closest that we assessed that they are; really near that Hostomel airport, so I -- I don't -- I -- I can't speak for the New York Times' and the BBC's maps. I -- I'm -- I -- I'm giving -- I'm -- I'm giving you what -- what we're seeing here on -- on the ground as best I can. But they have not -- I mean, they have made some progress over the last 24 hours, but it's -- it's -- it's not -- it's been uneven, and I think I just laid it all out for you again.

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[Farmer Y]

Ukraine War - Combat Footage From Kyiv Area Gives Closer Look At Armament Of Ukrainian AT Squads

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Re: The Russian Revolution

A critical missing piece in what @Protistology said (can't quote) is the involvement of the Wilson administration. Wilson was committed to WW1 and "making Europe safe for democracy," and his absolute brainlet idea with the battered, bleeding Russia that had just deposed the Tsar due to the war's unpopularity was to make continued involvement in the war a condition of receiving loans from the USA. So Kerensky was faced with either immediately going bankrupt and having another revolution, or keep the war going and maybe not have another revolution, but anyway, there was another revolution.

Wilson is arguably the worst President in US history.

Not counting the last 20 years, it's always a close call between Wilson and Roosevelt. One did all the preparatory work for the God-State, the other actually laid the foundation and started construction.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Western sources say that the Mosin-Nagant is only used as a ceremonial rifle in Russia these days. I wonder if that guy is HQ guard duty or something?

The other possibility is that the separatist forces in Donbas were using alot of them.

The rebels used Mosins and everything else they could get their hands on. Here's a Degtyarev.

 

[The Ugly One]

We have a defense treaty with them, and they're economically very important to the west.

Ukraine not so much.

China won't invade Taiwan unless they've paid the decision-makers in the USA enough money to guarantee that we stay out.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Waiting for someone to misgender Zelensky and for him to claim it was an assassination attempt

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

This photo pretty much says it all.

 

[Strix454]

So are the biolabs real? I normally wouldn't believe it but the US news is so coordinated against it which usually means it's true. Has it always been this obvious or have tptb gotten lazy?

Ukraine inherited alot of dangerous biological material when the old soviet union fell apart. They have that in their own labs. Around 2005, the US military went into Ukraine with the supposed mission of helping Ukraine "secure" and properly take care of all that old biological material. The US government put people in the country and built a facility in the country.

Flash forward 17 years. The US military "biological materials" mission is still ongoing in Ukraine. None of the materials Ukraine had seem to have been disposed of and nobody will give a clear answer on what the US military mission today is and that biological laboratory of theirs in Ukraine is doing.

The US government has admitted that the US military has a lab there. The US official position is that all of its various biological laboratories around the world are for "biological defense" and that that the US would never engage in biological warfare research.

The problem with that is all kinds of research that on paper is about defending against biological weapons can also be used to develop biological weapons. Its not so easy to distinguish one from the other. It becomes a very subjective question.

The mainstream in the US responded to the Russian/Chinese statements by basically repeating whatever the US military said as unquestioned truth and saying that anything said by the Russians or Chinese cannot be verified. That is just weak.

In a about a week the US went from total denial and calling everything about biolabs "conspiracy theory" to admitting that they have a lab & program in Ukraine. But disputing the Russian characterization of the work conducted at that lab in Ukraine. They have often been careful recently not to DENY what people are saying but shifting to a "you can't prove that" argument.

So the biolabs are real. But what exactly was being researched or done at the biolabs is still in dispute.

 

[Reddit Gold]

This photo pretty much says it all.

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Now I understand why Putin invaded the country.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

So are the biolabs real? I normally wouldn't believe it but the US news is so coordinated against it which usually means it's true. Has it always been this obvious or have tptb gotten lazy?

Do they exist? Yeah. Did Russia invade to capture the biolabs in order to prevent us from unleashing a bioweapon attack on Russia? Nah. It's not like you have to fling your virus across the border.

We've got BSL-3s across the entire world. If we were doing suspicious things we'd do it elsewhere.

 

[introvertedobserver]

If they destroy all the chip fabs and other manufacturing, what was the point of the exercise in the first place?

Xi: Point?

Yep.

Taiwan's continued existence is a stain on China, and will always be (for as long as it's "independent") a direct rival and threat to CCP control of China. The RoC (Taiwan) has a legitimate claim to China, being the continuation of the pre-revolution government. On top of that, it's a western ally right on their doorstep. Remember, saving face is incredibly important culturally in the "east", especially in China. To the point where it often outweighs all other considerations.

China doesn't give a single fuck about the fabs and commerce going on in Taiwan - that can all be rebuilt and China already has all of the blueprints for all of that technology.

China doesn't give a single fuck about the lives of citizens in Taiwan, hell it doesn't even give a single fuck about the lives of mainlanders (other than the ruling party elites, of course). That's a part of collectivist cultures - individual lives just don't matter relative to the collective.

So what China actually wants, above all other interests in Taiwan, is to end the RoC. At the end of the day, if they can accomplish that without levelling the island, great. But that's a bonus, not the objective and they would absolutely sink that island if they needed to.

A ton of people are under the misbelief that China (and Russia) follow the same logical thinking that they themselves do. They don't.

Where we look at Taiwan (or the invasion of Ukraine) in terms of economic impact first, that's a minor concern, at most, to them.

 

[Scale Smerch]

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More cool rocket launches. I'm choking on dust just watching.

Ahh the BM-30 Smerch, when you absolutely positively need to make sure everything dies in the target area. Also comes in nifty cluster and thermobaric variants for added shits and giggles.

Say what you want about the Russians, but damn do they know how to make MLRS systems.

 

[Lone MacReady]

They're straight up doing Full Metal Jacket shit with that pose. "My little buddy".

Ukies have been posing with dead bodies,

Spoiler: NSFW dead lads

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[Estolysis]

We have a defense treaty with them, and they're economically very important to the west.

The US doesn't have a defense treaty with Taiwan, Biden has clarified this multiple times. The informal promises we've given to Taiwan are no different than the ones we gave to Ukraine, and were intended to detere an invasion. Now that China knows we don't mean it, they have no reason not to invade.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Do they exist? Yeah. Did Russia invade to capture the biolabs in order to prevent us from unleashing a bioweapon attack on Russia? Nah. It's not like you have to fling your virus across the border.

We've got BSL-3s across the entire world. If we were doing suspicious things we'd do it elsewhere.

The concern was they were working on BSL-4 pathogens in BSL-3 labs.

For reference:


Here's the PDF from earlier, in case anyone missed it. Page 251.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

De-banking is the most idiotic decision the collective West has made. As a Russian, now I can only pay for my VPN/VPS with crypto (and not all of them even accept crypto), stolen credit card that I bought on darknet with crypto, or a middleman who i must entrust with my credentials and crypto. And if I don't have VPN/VPS, I can't access most of globohomo (or even neutral) news outlets, so I'll only feed on information propaganda that my government provides. Not the best way to rile the population up against Putin, if you ask me.
I see a lot of NPCs on Twitter who think that private companies leaving will somehow lead people to overthrow the government. I've extensively studied history of revolutions and uprisings, successful and not, I've read works by Lenin, Trotsky, various guerrilleros, even fucking SIEGE.
Revolt starts with the Organization.

• The Organization provides support structure for revolutionaries, both material and informational. Let's say we're at peaceful stage and are organizing a protest. In modern Russia this can easily get you arrested, your electronics confiscated, your house searched. If you're a known shit stirrer, pigs will try to arrest you preemptively so you're gonna need safehouse. If you're under arrest, you cant work and earn money. If your electronics are confiscated, you're gonna need the replacement. If there's no Organization, it's all risk and no reward, therefore no protests.
• The people who will be ready to kill and die for the cause tend not to have "good optics". Literally every revolution was fought by "fools, frauds and firebrands" and led by hideous people like Trotsky. Bleeding heart liberals that you're seeing on streets of Russian cities won't cut it. At best, they'll comprise "legal" parts of the Organization (various NCOs and support groups) or radicalize further. Legals are important for buliding the support structure, but without the Minecraft crew they're fucking toothless. Vice versa, Minecrafters alone would be ineffective without their legal counterparts.
  So, what does it mean for the West? If you want regime change, be ready to get your hands dirty by supporting literal psychopaths as well, not just dangerhair zoomer sheep.
• It takes a lot of time and effort to build the Organization. You need to recruit a lot of brilliant minds to be ideologues, leaders and officers. Western fuckers have been ignoring thousands of radicals (skinheads, antifa, commies, various separatists, even lolberts) fleeing from Russia over last two decades. No protection, no resources, no media support. No retaliation for political prosecutions in Russia. These people were left alone, slowly assimilating and losing the flame that burned inside them. And now, when "the street" is sterilized, you expect someone to "rise up"? The only group that got some attention from the West was liberal democrats. And as the name suggests, these guys aren't good at revolting.
• And now, to the best part. Let's assume the Organization(s) are formed organically. What makes you think they'll be aligned with the West? Last time when Russian Revolution was left to it's own devices, fucking Bolsheviks have won. During late 90s, Western countries were helping Russia precisely to prevent communist or "red fascist" takeover. Same goes for coup' d'etat by Russian elites. Yes, there's a chance that oligarchs would succeed, but what if the power falls into hands of military, secret police or regional elites?
  The general population is rapidly turning against the West. Of course, it's fueled by state propaganda, but also by West's behavior. Cutting the technological and cultural ties with Russian population won't make them turn on Putin, people will see the West have abandoned them and either fall into Putin's hands ("after all, all his talk about Russophobic West was true!") or will grow strong sense of resentment towards West and eventually install revanchist regime.

TL;DR It's delusional to think that people are going to rise up against Putin because of sanctions. And even if they do, the West is not gonna like the result.

Sanctioning your country was a stupid decision at every level, kicking you off SWIFT was retarded & it accomplishes nothing of substance. I wish this wasn't happening to you but it is, you're being forced into a North Korean style hermit state by idiot Western governments that don't care about making a distinction between the people & the government. Everyone is being punished for something a minority of people did.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

The US doesn't have a defense treaty with Taiwan, Biden has clarified this multiple times. The informal promises we've given to Taiwan are no different than the ones we gave to Ukraine, and were intended to detere an invasion. Now that China knows we don't mean it, they have no reason not to invade.

Hmmm. Yeah reading the text now it just looks like it would be a "grave concern."

We'll still defend them though. Microchips must flow.