Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

How do you think Russia loses this at the current rate?

Oh they're going to win, I didn't say they weren't but if say what they deployed to Ukraine to start with was all they had, they probably wouldn't take the country.

Either way. Them signing up 16000 Syrians can in no way be taken as a sign that things are going just fine for the Russians in this war.

 

[Strix454]

Yeah but he has a wife and kid so it's not about him. Assuming that's true.

Source for his wife and child is here

He says in the article that his wife was opposed to him going. But he did it anyway.

 

[Aidan]

How many soldiers have that? How many soldiers were directly affected to/related with Iraq?

I don't get people being okay with things when soldiers do them at the behest of governments but not individuals on their own accord.
But Im weird I guess.

They didn't have a choice...Right but they also did their duty without complaining most of the time and chose that profession knowing well that their government goes off fighting foreign wars every few couple of years.

This is a retarded take.
Professional soldiers with a wife and kid tend to have knocked up their wife before or during their time as a professional soldier. There's a bit of an understanding on the wife's end that her husband is going to be doing military shit, along with (in the west) the safety net of the life and health insurance policies should anything bad happen. In the US if daddy soldier comes back in a body bag at least the kid is going to get a ton of benefits and have their education 100% paid for, among many other things.

Veteran or random rambo deciding to just go get involved in a conflict across the world while leaving his wife and kid behind is just selfish in this case. What exactly is he going to do? Is he going to stop the Russians?
He's going over to volunteer for a vastly outnumbered force against a professional military. Even if he kills 10 Russians, every single time he's out there he's risking himself to the detriment of his family and they get nothing for his death, not even the courtesy of a proper confirmation of death until this blows over, if even then.

 

[LUNEKO]

So Russia reiterated recently about getting some 16k Syrian "volunteers".

Can we now admit Russia has shit the bed completely and the only path to a military victory for them at this point is brute forcing it?

On a side note I expect an increase in NATO country "volunteers" as a reaction to this.

This is just a proxy WW3 at this point, the battlefield has more foreign people from all countries in the world that fucking nationals

 

[Richardface]

So Russia reiterated recently about getting some 16k Syrian "volunteers".

Can we now admit Russia has shit the bed completely and the only path to a military victory for them at this point is brute forcing it?

On a side note I expect an increase in NATO country "volunteers" as a reaction to this.

The Russian SaKhan has dishonoured his blood name by bringing in forces not named in his batchall! Ukraine demands a Trial of Refusal and bids two trinaries of tanks!

 

[BlackDragoons]

Oh they're going to win, I didn't say they weren't but if say what they deployed to Ukraine to start with was all they had, they probably wouldn't take the country.

Either way. Them signing up 16000 Syrians can in no way be taken as a sign that things are going just fine for the Russians in this war.

They've already lost. Don't get me wrong they probably will take Kiev. But this invasion just highlights how retarded Russian logistics. Ontop of that they are going to be facing heavy resistant for years to come. Let's also not forget they pretty much destroyed there economy by doing this and pretty much pulled a "everyone hated that" situation.

Putin should just eat the bullet because this is just another emberresment in a long list of embarrassments. If it wasn't for the nukes an American or Chinese flag would be flying in moscow.

 

[Strix454]

He's going over to volunteer for a vastly outnumbered force against a professional military. Even if he kills 10 Russians, every single time he's out there he's risking himself to the detriment of his family and they get nothing for his death, not even the courtesy of a proper confirmation of death until this blows over, if even then.

That reminds me of a good point. Anyone who goes over there to fight should leave a DNA sample behind. Because it could be a very long time before your body is either identified or recovered if you die. There is a system for doing this for people who travel to really dangerous places in the world in most countries.

 

[Aidan]

They've already lost. Don't get me wrong they probably will take Kiev. But this invasion just highlights how retarded Russian logistics. Ontop of that they are going to be facing heavy resistant for years to come. Let's also not forget they pretty much destroyed there economy by doing this and pretty much pulled a "everyone hated that" situation.

Putin should just eat the bullet because this is just another emberresment.

Yet again "Rubicon has been crossed" moment, there is no backing out of this and coming out better than just seeing it through.
I think it'd be a larger failure than their logistical fuckups if they didn't expect extremely harsh international backlash after over a decade of sanctions being the number one tool in the "Fuck Russia" toolbag.

Not saying they anticipated things to be as bad as they have been but there's no "oopsy lmao ok we're leaving" option that will get the west, which collectively hates Russia since forever, to suddenly play nice.

 

[nonperson]

In other news, a Ukrainian Soviet-era drone crashed... near Zagreb in Croatia.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44697/ukrainian-tu-141-strizh-missile-like-drone-appears-to-have-crashed-in-croatia

It would've had to accidentally fly over the airspace of several NATO countries undisturbed to get there.

 

[TheTrumanShow]

This is a retarded take.
Professional soldiers with a wife and kid tend to have knocked up their wife before or during their time as a professional soldier. There's a bit of an understanding on the wife's end that her husband is going to be doing military shit, along with (in the west) the safety net of the life and health insurance policies should anything bad happen. In the US if daddy soldier comes back in a body bag at least the kid is going to get a ton of benefits and have their education 100% paid for, among many other things.

Veteran or random rambo deciding to just go get involved in a conflict across the world while leaving his wife and kid behind is just selfish in this case. What exactly is he going to do? Is he going to stop the Russians?
He's going over to volunteer for a vastly outnumbered force against a professional military. Even if he kills 10 Russians, every single time he's out there he's risking himself to the detriment of his family and they get nothing for his death, not even the courtesy of a proper confirmation of death until this blows over, if even then.

Are you kidding me? You're telling me soldiers with families are exempt from war?
People went on multiple tours.

People sign up to the military when they have families but more commonly they stay in them despite forming families after a tour of duty or before one, even when they have the oppurtunity to leave.

Every single time a US soldier was risking his life in Iraq, it was for the general detriment of his familly. Even if the familly gets some money for it.


Now this guy has obviously done both, as a Canadian sniper in Afghanistan.
But I'd rather be choosing my battles than not.

Now are his choices in this case sound? No, fuck no. They are retarded, like you said he's not getting payed, the conflict has little direct incentive for him. But obviously he's some kind of war junkie/person who feels at home in conflict and/or really feels for the Ukranian side.


My point was that the individual choice is no worse (imo better) than being prodded to a war by some national military.

I mostly respect people who serve in effectively territorial guard units/home defense units (american national guard can apparently be sent to foreign wars so thats insane). These people serve their country in times of both military and civil emergencies but in most countries they can't be sent to war in a foreign country.

I'd rather be a mercenary than a professional soldier.

 

[BlackDragoons]

Yet again "Rubicon has been crossed" moment, there is no backing out of this and coming out better than just seeing it through.
I think it'd be a larger failure than their logistical fuckups if they didn't expect extremely harsh international backlash after over a decade of sanctions being the number one tool in the "Fuck Russia" toolbag.

Not saying they anticipated things to be as bad as they have been but there's no "oopsy lmao ok we're leaving" option that will get the west, which collectively hates Russia since forever, to suddenly play nice.

I will continue to watch them eat shit till the very end Green Turkey.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

What the fuck does a "conventional modern army" mean? Did he expect them to be the slav version of goat herders? This larper sounds like an imbecile.

People just got used to war being fought only against goat herders with AKs. I guess he expected it to be the same. Fucked around, found out.

 

[Aidan]

Are you kidding me? You're telling me soldiers with families are exempt from war?
People went on multiple tours.

People sign up to the military when they have families but more commonly they stay in them despite forming families after a tour of duty or before one, even when they have the oppurtunity to leave.

Every single time a US soldier was risking his life in Iraq, it was for the general detriment of his familly. Even if the familly gets some money for it.


Now this guy has obviously done both, as a Canadian sniper in Afghanistan.
But I'd rather be choosing my battles than not.

Now are his choices in this case sound? No, fuck no. They are retarded, like you said he's not getting payed, the conflict has little direct incentive for him. But obviously he's some kind of war junkie/person who feels at home in conflict and/or really feels for the Ukranian side.


My point was that the individual choice is no worse (imo better) than being prodded to a war by some national military.

I mostly respect people who serve in effectively territorial guard units/home defense units (american national guard can apparently be sent to foreign wars so thats insane). These people serve their country in times of both military and civil emergencies but in most countries they can't be sent to war in a foreign country.

I'd rather be a mercenary than a professional soldier.

I think you misunderstood what I said.

Mercenaries are, by definition, professional soldiers, by the way. This guy is not a mercenary, he's a janny. He and his family get nothing for him putting his life on the line and his impact will be negligible. I demand to see some of the code he's written because he's a grade A retard.

 

[A Logging Company]

This is just a proxy WW3 at this point, the battlefield has more foreign people from all countries in the world that fucking nationals

That's not as rare as you may think. The Spanish Civil War comes to mind.

 

[LUNEKO]

Are you kidding me? You're telling me soldiers with families are exempt from war?
People went on multiple tours.

People sign up to the military when they have families but more commonly they stay in them despite forming families after a tour of duty or before one, even when they have the oppurtunity to leave.

Every single time a US soldier was risking his life in Iraq, it was for the general detriment of his familly. Even if the familly gets some money for it.


Now this guy has obviously done both, as a Canadian sniper in Afghanistan.
But I'd rather be choosing my battles than not.

Now are his choices in this case sound? No, fuck no. They are retarded, like you said he's not getting payed, the conflict has little direct incentive for him. But obviously he's some kind of war junkie/person who feels at home in conflict and/or really feels for the Ukranian side.


My point was that the individual choice is no worse (imo better) than being prodded to a war by some national military.

I mostly respect people who serve in effectively territorial guard units/home defense units (american national guard can apparently be sent to foreign wars so thats insane). These people serve their country in times of both military and civil emergencies but in most countries they can't be sent to war in a foreign country.

I'd rather be a mercenary than a professional soldier.

There was no need to rape your enter key while making that argument man

 

[Wy4M]

But this invasion just highlights how retarded Russian logistics.

Russia literally took an area that is bigger in size as the UK. Now imagine that an army took the UK in about 10 days and people would say they were losing and had bad logistics.

No, Putin has enough time and now he's securing the occupied areas because it are keepers. Making them stronger and safer with people who are pro-Russia and that way it will also be much easier to focus on the front lines.

 

[TheTrumanShow]

I think you misunderstood what I said.

Mercenaries are, by definition, professional soldiers, by the way. This guy is not a mercenary, he's a janny. He and his family get nothing for him putting his life on the line and his impact will be negligible. I demand to see some of the code he's written because he's a grade A retard.

Im gonna leave the semantics aside.
That's all fine, what you or who ever I was quoting said was that it was messed up he'd do this when he has a wife and child.
And my point was that "soldiers" (non-mercneary, non-jannie, whatever the fuck you want to call them - soldiers ) do this all the time.

 

[Aidan]

Russia literally took an area that is bigger in size as the UK. Now imagine that an army took the UK in about 10 days and people would say they were losing and had bad logistics.

No, Putin has enough time and now he's securing the occupied areas because it are keepers. Making them stronger and safer with people who are pro-Russia and that way it will also be much easier to focus on the front lines.

An area the size of UK should be taken in under 24 hours else your army is trash.
t. top of my class in navy seals

 

[The Foldless Brain]

An area the size of UK should be taken in under 24 hours else your army is trash.
t. top of my class in navy seals

"When you take your enemy's territory, you lose."
t. Generalissimus Trudeau

 

[Duke Nukem]

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These people are mentally ill and should have their lunch-money stolen and all their funko-pops seized to help finance the cause.

They're all in their 30s and either live in their parents' basement with no job or they have the shittiest jobs imaginable.

do americans unironically think the japs fought some kind of race war against them in ww2
the absolute state of burger education lmao

Honestly I'm not sure if people under 30 are even aware that America fought a war with Japan at one time. At the rate things are going it's actually kind of amazing that they even know who Adolf Hitler was.