Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Rezza]

The Russian representative is saying the labs are not only real and funded 100% by the USA, he's saying they where planning on using infected migratory birds as bioweapons, i can't believe this shit truly clown world.
Now he's saying that they where using Slav DNA to target their ethnic group, holy shit
Also said they had COVID samples in there, fucking hell

See, I told you they didn't have a choice but mentioning Covid now that the Chinese did it. I think its a confirmation that, at least this in this Biolab brouhaha, China is calling the shots now

 

[naffatune]

Longevity=/= stability if it did rome would have never fell and the British empire wouldn’t be hemorrhaging commonwealth colonies every decade or so.

I was speaking in comparative terms there. Of course I know every gov't will have instability, and that it's just a matter of degree.

And do you really, really think that Rome and the British Empire were more unstable than everyone around them at their place and time? Do you really think that?

 

[AnOminous]

Definitely but I also think they're going to this war as a brutal almost like a Iraq 2.0

It's a great place to test out our newer hardware that hasn't really seen action.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

How it started vs. how it's going...

 

[TruthSeekingDaimon]

How many Russian tanks can a single A10 Warthog deal with?
Also whats the best infantry carried anti tank munition available to Ukraine resistance?

 

[DumbDude42]

Do you really think Russia and Ukraine are that different? They have the same alphabet, the same naming customs, the same architecture (I mean just look up photos of Moscow and "kYiv" and compare), the same religion (Orthodox Christianity), among many other things.

this is just naive
bosnians/serbs/croats are so close, they basically speak different dialects of the same language (serbo-croatian) and that didn't stop em from repeatedly brutalizing each other over throughout recent history. hutu and tutsi in rwanda are almost entirely indistinguishable, didn't stop hutus from chopping up a million tutsis with machetes either. german jews were near indistinguishable from regular germans too, and a large majority were assimilated into german society, until one day they weren't anymore.

 

[Meat Target]

How it started vs. how it's going...

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Greenwald said that someone has claimed "the US has no bioweapons whatsoever".

That's bullshit. Full stop. Our military budget is bigger than the next 6 countries put together. You cannot tell me that not a penny of it is spent on biological weapons. I'm not stupid.

The US plays by its own rules. They are not going to abstain from developing bioweapons just to appease some bleeding-heart faggots at the UN.

 

[Narcotics]

The UN meeting so far is just a game of "you did this" "no you did it", russian guys are essentially alone there.

 

[MrJokerRager]

What would Putin gain from blowing up Chernobyl? The dude already has nuclear weapons. Is he following Assad's doctrine, gleaned from the works of Sun Tzu?
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The counterpoint made towards "Assad had no reason to gas when he was winning" was that Assad was an asshole looking to rub it in, is the counterargument in a nutshell.

They already believe "Assad/Putin" is an evil fuck with no rationality by default and then run with, that is why they must gas, because they have to gas so they can win.

 

[Aidan]

The Russian representative is saying the labs are not only real and funded 100% by the USA, he's saying they where planning on using infected migratory birds as bioweapons, i can't believe this shit truly clown world.
Now he's saying that they where using Slav DNA to target their ethnic group, holy shit
Also said they had COVID samples in there, fucking hell

Sounds like the Russian rep needs to take his meds.

 

[Reporterward]

How many Russian tanks can a single A10 Warthog deal with?

With its main gun, the vaunted GAU-8 Avenger 30mm gatling gun?

None.

Seriously. It can't penetrate modern armor. Sure. You can shoot up a thin skin convoy if the pilot is good or lucky and the enemy is completely incompetent.

Which is why anymore its only use is as a slow bomb truck that is vulnerable to every anti-aircraft system built since the 1970s and which saw unacceptable loss rates in the Persian Gulf War and Iraq 2003.

But BRRRRRRRRTTTTTT is fun when stomping some Haji or Taliban goat-herder.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Greenwald said that someone has claimed "the US has no bioweapons whatsoever".

Well of course they claimed that. Russia cannot be seen to be correct even when they are. After all, if Russia is right about this what other things that they have been saying might they be right about…

 

[Narcotics]

Holy shit man.
US rep is straight up saying russia is actually the one with the bio labs. "russia's calling for this meeting is a potential false flagging". "we have serious concerns of russia using chemical or biological weapons". Also poke at china for supporting russia.

Russia is truly alone in that meeting, kinda sad.

 

[BradCarter]

Holy shit man.
US rep is straight up saying russia is actually the one with the bio labs. "russia's calling for this meeting is a potential false flagging". "we have serious concerns of russia using chemical or biological weapons". Also poke at china for supporting russia.

Russia is truly alone in that meeting, kinda sad.

Russia claimed there's a bunch of lab birds, flees, and lice missing . Perfect setup for a false flag if that's the case.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Well, we are the original Chuds, literally.

I still fail to see how Russia will achieve any of its strategic goals without completely defaulting. They can't take Kiev with the manpower they have and they can't expect to continue the war indefinitely. Even if they eventually starve the Ukrainians out, they can't occupy the country without excessive costs but they simultaneously can't not occupy them due to the massive amount of bad blood created by their invasion and the subsequent successful propaganda campaigns by the Ukrainians to unify at least most of their people.

If the invasion was not enough to turn you against the Russians, most of the young Ukrainian women have already fled the country. Any Russian occupier will be constantly harassed by mobs of armed angry incels who, due to economic sanctions, will literally not have anything better to do than to tell you to fuck off. Also, with the economic costs running up, what's even the point of trying to win Ukraine if you lose Russia in the process?

I'll go on record saying that there is a 0% chance that Russia will gain anything strategically from this. I'll also say that there is only a very small chance that Russia will be able to win a complete military victory with the troops they currently have. They're already trying to goad Belarus to join the war regardless of the risk that it could destabilize Belarus and might very well lead to a similar uprising as in 2020. They are also planning to bring in Middle-Eastern and African mercenaries to use as cannon fodder. These are not something that a side that is confident in their current forces to "pacify" a fellow Slavic nation would do.

If I'll be wrong, I'll accept that I'm just an average Chud that has no other use than to be laughed at. However, I still think that the Russians are currently in just at least as deep shit as the Ukrainians. It'll be a miracle if they can get out of this conflict intact.

Russia fortunately (or unfortunately) has a lot of experience being dirt poor with the world disavowing it, while still maintaining a military strong enough to prevent the other nations from just steamrolling it.

I'm not saying the Russians will be in strong economic shape, no. They'll be dirt poor in the short-term at least. But all those years as the Soviet Union demonstrated that they can be self-sufficient (enough) to survive, even on a low level, as a country while still keeping their military "good enough".

Given that the average Russian is used to living in poverty and squalor, I don't see them staging a massive revolution the way people in the west are headed with rising gas prices and inflation.

The west has a much higher QoL, which means that we're much more intolerant of the pain from the squeeze, imo. So the Western sanctions against Russia will be like drinking poison and expecting the other guy to die.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Some of my US friends have been sharing this video on their boomersbook. I want to scream. And the fucking comments under this video.

The people who watch this stuff, arn't your retarded usual CNN and MSNBC watchers.

They are the apoliticial ones who just watch the news once in a week and then get back to doing boring shit or whatever hobby they working on in their boring ass rich suburb.

There are a lot of Americans who probably don't even know there is a war in Russia at this moment and when they talk, the just sound so unsure of what is happening and lots of pauses while they talk about it.

These folks probably don't care to begin with about war in Ukraine but show them some professionally dressed cunt talking in Academic terms and they will buy it and move on with their day.

 

[JohnDoe]

I know this is an old post but Swat Kats probably caused some furries.

No shit, bro. It's two manly cat dudes that fly around in sick jets and do all kinds of badassery to save the city and hot catgirls. You could call it a furry katalyst if you wanted.

 

[Meat Target]

Glenn Greenwald just released a video regarding the biolabs story. To give the full context on how GAE can't be trusted with anything they say, he spent a lot of time talking about how the anthrax attacks were a MASSIVE glow-op used to gaslight the population into supporting the Iraq War. We're coming up on the 19 year anniversary and it feels like the spooks are running with a lot of the same talking points. Very concerning.

I had forgotten all about those (I was kid back then).

Good heavens, that's a mindfuck.

 

[LUNEKO]

>UN agents: Russia should stop the war they have killed 6 million civilians
>Russia accuses the US of having bioweapon labs in Ukraine
>Albania(for some reason), US, France and UK just say: NO U, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES 6 MILLION UKRANIANS
I have no idea what where they thinking, perhaps they where not

 

[Narcotics]

This is just nato taking turns shitting on russia for the us sponsored biolabs thing.
I now unironically believe this shit will be near impossible to de escalate. Pray no retarded event happens soon that plunge us deeper into the nukes.