Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Safir]

for the sake of a kleptocratic shithole which is most famous for exporting prostitutes and low-grade criminals all across Europe, hardly some uber-based Aryan heimat.

It's a baby farm, too [pozlink alert]. Hitler spinning in his grave will solve the energy crisis forever.

 

[DumbDude42]

There are places in Siberia which give convicts terminal cancer in a year or so.

somewhere east of the ural mountains a soviet nuclear research facility leaked tons of radioactive shit all over the place in the 50s, right? do they send prisoners there to die?

 

[The Foldless Brain]

"These aren't goatherders in Iraq whose infrastructure got wrecked. They're practically cousins and they're giving them tax cuts to put their life together."
their infrastructure is currently getting turbo wrecked in real time by rocket artillery all over the place, millions of them are driven from their homes and have to flee the country, unknown numbers killed and injured - the whole "they're practically cousins" schtick goes out the window completely in the face of this situation

It doesn't matter. Camelfuckers reproduced at a rate of 4.8 back then, *krainians make 1.2 other Ukrainians. The number of them who'll choose to get enriched by Ivan's Chechen friends over taking up a nice plumbing job in Poland for many times more money than they ever did at home are not enough to sustain an insurrection. No more so than they did after the entire territory was a wasteland after WW2 when the CIA propped them up and accomplished fuck all til 1950.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This is one of the reasons why I don't want the US to get involved. They've been fighting desert farmers for over 20 years and they weren't even good at doing that. The US's war doctrine is no doubt all kinds of fucked up, and is more than likely to be mostly, if not entirely, be changed with fighting insurgencies in mind. Nothing learned from the middle east will work against a modern military with national backing.

There is that George Carlin joke that involved America bombing nations with little to no air force capabilities post Korea.

Even in Desert Storm, it was against an Iraq that had lost a lot of men and equipment against the Iranians for 8 years. Vietnam is a weird one since the NVA was a conventional army but after Tet, never attempted another offensive again when Uncle Sam was there.

I managed to find this footage of some of their forces yesterday, these lot are a far cry from the Talichads or ISIS militias in Iraq.

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501943087714603009

And found this video where a molotov had no impact.

Also as a added bonus, some New Yorker wants to send guns to Ukraine, but the thing is New York compliant ARs just look gay as fuck.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Fuck it. Let's do nooclear war.
It a pain in the ass to embed video here and my delete draft button doesn't do shit to solve my accidental thumbing of the reply button.
The great radioactive reset can only bring about better software. The inevitable generation of mutants are gonna need simple lolcow farms

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Some of my US friends have been sharing this video on their boomersbook. I want to scream. And the fucking comments under this video.

Fuck the comments are gold. Even the ones that know who he is just so happen to forget why he was fired. Because you know maybe being fired for lying about the guy that was actually trying to deal with the corruption that allowed this to happem to get him removed from power is a bad look. Because he was so concerned about this happening.

 

[Wash away the rain]

Fuck it. Let's do nooclear war.
It a pain in the ass to embed video here and my deleted draft button doesn't do shit to solve my accidental thumbing of the reply button.
The great radioactive reset can only bring about better software. The inevitable generation of mutants are gonna need simple lolcow farms

I’d rather not deal with supermutant sonichu.

 

[Narcotics]

My call is that Mariupol/donbass will be russia's next acquisition (to call it something) with how much shit is pilling up near there, i expect something big in the next following days sooner or later.
I still find it funny how burgers got played by poland by refusing to send the planes themselves and telling them "if you want to send them so bad send them yourself", it's quite clear that nato is trying to get as much weapons and vehicles as they can without outright trying to send their troops directly, now, burgers and russians trying to falseflag eachother is both retarded ans scary, but until one of them actually goes through then i say this is just a game of point and blame.

BTW the un security council meeting at request of roossia due to bio labs and shit is starting soon so prepare for some seething.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Is occupying Ukraine actually going to be that hard though? These aren't goatherders in Iraq whose infrastructure got wrecked. They're practically cousins and they're giving them tax cuts to put their life together.

The grassroots resistance is already giving the Russians trouble. Now imagine having to deal with that nigh constantly - almost daily sabotage, uncooperative locals hurling insults and other things at the troops, the complete lack of infrastructure and industry due to action from both sides that's going to screw Ukraine's economy for decades, and ultimately nothing of any real strategic worth that Russia would gain.

Occupying Ukraine after this would be a massive albatross hanging around the neck of Russia's already fragile economy and I can only imagine troop morale would plummet to unfathomable lows by being stuck in a shithole with people who absolutely want to see you die reminding you of that fact every waking second of every waking day.

It's a baby farm, too [pozlink alert]. Hitler spinning in his grave will solve the energy crisis forever.

That'd be impressive given Hitler ordered his own body (following his suicide of eating a bullet) cremated and the ashes dumped into the river specifically so his corpse wouldn't be desecrated the same way Mussolini went after Italy fell.

 

[Aidan]

There are places in Siberia which give convicts terminal cancer in a year or so.

What? You're obligated to elaborate.

 

[Meat Target]

I did a news search of "Victoria Nuland", and this was the result:



The problem is never the problem. The problem is that the wrong people noticed the problem.

 

[Dave_Ph]

This is one of the reasons why I don't want the US to get involved. They've been fighting desert farmers for over 20 years and they weren't even good at doing that. The US's war doctrine is no doubt all kinds of fucked up, and is more than likely to be mostly, if not entirely, be changed with fighting insurgencies in mind. Nothing learned from the middle east will work against a modern military with national backing.

My extensive review of podcasts by aging Navy Seals and cross dressing Army Ranger Coffee vendors leads me to believe the US response to being shot at by a 65 year old goat fucker with an AK that was never zeroed in from 400 yards is to call in an air strike.
Also, some of those Navy guys were way too into homoerotic hazing of new guys,

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

"These aren't goatherders in Iraq whose infrastructure got wrecked. They're practically cousins and they're giving them tax cuts to put their life together."
their infrastructure is currently getting turbo wrecked in real time by rocket artillery all over the place, millions of them are driven from their homes and have to flee the country, unknown numbers killed and injured - the whole "they're practically cousins" schtick goes out the window completely in the face of this situation

But then what are they going to do about it abd how much? Even accounting for long standing grudges and intelligence apparati dicking around, there's not much left in the way of repelling them after even half a month and that's with a conventional army and while the Crimea situation isn't a perfect one to one replica and (I'm sure I'm missing something), the Russian Army doesn't seem exactly battle weathered from the takeover there.

 

[Toothpaste]

I'll be honest, I disagree with your takes, but I understand your perspective through the lens of you being Finnish.

Spoiler: Average Finn

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But seriously, I get it. Living directly next to Russia without NATO status and without friendly relations to Russia is a ballsy move. I hope Finland gets to join NATO. I know you said that you see the war being like the winter war, but I think it's going to end up like the continuation war. A long slog that ultimately concludes in Ukraine ceding the strategic and oil+gas resource rich eastern areas to Russia.

Well, we are the original Chuds, literally.

I still fail to see how Russia will achieve any of its strategic goals without completely defaulting. They can't take Kiev with the manpower they have and they can't expect to continue the war indefinitely. Even if they eventually starve the Ukrainians out, they can't occupy the country without excessive costs but they simultaneously can't not occupy them due to the massive amount of bad blood created by their invasion and the subsequent successful propaganda campaigns by the Ukrainians to unify at least most of their people.

If the invasion was not enough to turn you against the Russians, most of the young Ukrainian women have already fled the country. Any Russian occupier will be constantly harassed by mobs of armed angry incels who, due to economic sanctions, will literally not have anything better to do than to tell you to fuck off. Also, with the economic costs running up, what's even the point of trying to win Ukraine if you lose Russia in the process?

I'll go on record saying that there is a 0% chance that Russia will gain anything strategically from this. I'll also say that there is only a very small chance that Russia will be able to win a complete military victory with the troops they currently have. They're already trying to goad Belarus to join the war regardless of the risk that it could destabilize Belarus and might very well lead to a similar uprising as in 2020. They are also planning to bring in Middle-Eastern and African mercenaries to use as cannon fodder. These are not something that a side that is confident in their current forces to "pacify" a fellow Slavic nation would do.

If I'll be wrong, I'll accept that I'm just an average Chud that has no other use than to be laughed at. However, I still think that the Russians are currently in just at least as deep shit as the Ukrainians. It'll be a miracle if they can get out of this conflict intact.

 

[naffatune]

Trying to maintain the indefinite military occupation of a country with 1/3 the population of yours is not really feasible in the long term. You will gain nothing from Ukraine while spending a huge amount of resources and manpower to maintain your control over it.

You see, that would be an issue if Russians were invading fucking Ugandans or something. But we're talking about Russians and Ukrainians here. Yes, there would be some unrest in the first months, but from there, Ukrainians will just accept the occupation. On top of that, ~13% of Ukraine is just straight-up Russian.

Do you really think Russia and Ukraine are that different? They have the same alphabet, the same naming customs, the same architecture (I mean just look up photos of Moscow and "kYiv" and compare), the same religion (Orthodox Christianity), among many other things.

Both countries are corrupt, yes, but I'd rather be ruled by a country that has existed for longer since their gov't would have to be more stable.

 

[LUNEKO]

The Russian representative is saying the labs are not only real and funded 100% by the USA, he's saying they where planning on using infected migratory birds as bioweapons, i can't believe this shit truly clown world.
Now he's saying that they where using Slav DNA to target their ethnic group, holy shit
Also said they had COVID samples in there, fucking hell

 

[Wash away the rain]

Both countries are corrupt, yes, but I'd rather be ruled by a country that has existed for longer since their gov't would have to be more stable.

Longevity=/= stability if it did rome would have never fell and the British empire wouldn’t be hemorrhaging commonwealth colonies every decade or so.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I disagree. Social media is the digital public square. Conservatives retreating to alt-tech ghettoes is letting liberals win. Nobody takes places like BitChute seriously because it's also where loons like David Icke hang out.

The Right needs to fight for every inch of ground it can keep.

Well in my view, the solution to that is stopping payment processors and banks from discriminating against people and breaking up the monopoly held by Big Tech.

Trying to get Twitter or Facebook to platform Trump back on through the courts or legislature, is just a losing proposition and will haunt the right wing just like the decision from that gay cake baker case has done.

The liberals took that decision and used it to get rid of folks that they didn't want.

This isn't a dig at SCOTUS since I believe they made the right decision however Twitter and Facebook hold a market share because of government help and a high barrier to entry.

If someone else is able to make a better app than those two, it can't happen because the banks and government will get involved to fuck it all up before Big Tech does.

Liberals have shown that they hate people doing their own thing lol.

 

[Tim Curry]

The Russian representative is saying the labs are not only real and funded 100% by the USA, he's saying they where planning on using infected migratory birds as bioweapons, i can't believe this shit truly clown world.
Now he's saying that they where using Slav DNA to target their ethnic group, holy shit

This guys really letting it all out
Cant wait to see how the US defects this

Hopefully not with the classic and extremely mature, "no YOU!"

 

[Strix454]

Psaki condemning Russia for considering nationalizing property of businesses that pull out of Russia. So... Russia is expected to leave that valuable land and infrastructure abandoned until the west decides otherwise? That's an insane amount of control to try to exercise over a hostile country.

This is something the US has done forever in the case of revolutions in other countries or nationalizations by law of private property in other countries. The US government always makes these political demands at an intergovernmental level in favor of private property owners. They did this for decades with places like Cuba.