Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Drain Todger]

Who even cares about Russia and NATO anymore? This conflict has Nigerians, Syrians, Chechens, Redditors and Jewish Nazis duking it out like NPCs in a Skyrim mod.

I know that mod. Buggy, but fun.

 

[Übertroon]

The so-called Arab Spring was encouraged by US policy in that era. The CIA had nothing to really do with it and it wasn't a covert conspiracy. The US used its diplomatic, economic and political leverage to push things in the direction they wanted them to go. This was mostly under the second Bush Administration. There was an explicit belief that autocratic and undemocratic governments in the middle east had led to 9/11. The US pressure for liberalization in the Arab World went hand-in-hand with their policy of nation-building in Iraq. They really believed in the early days that the "new" Iraq was going to be shining city on the hill which would transform the entire region. It was stupid and delusional. But that is what the policy was and what they wanted.
And the US government put every bit of pressure it could on Egypt to throw their "own guy" out during the Arab Spring. They really believed that open elections in places like Egypt would put in power neoliberal regimes.
But then the US saw what the results of the policy were (chaos) and radically reversed direction. Thus their support for the coup in Egypt.

Americans bought their own propaganda. I was in school in the years after 9/11, and I remember all the fucking "kumbaya, peace on earth" bullshit they tried to drill into people's minds back then. I even bought some of it myself, buying the shitty takes that democracies are better at maintaining individual rights and that society isn't hurt by what people are doing in the privacy of their own homes. But that shitty 90s attitude has been clearly unmasked by the last two decades to just have been bullshit. Your "rights" are merely privileges that you've been granted, and the more liberal the politician the more likely they will want to take those privileges away from you. And the "privacy of your own home" argument was just to get the foot in the door, now you've got to accept the fucking weed smoking tranny faggots as they steal, molest, defraud, and vote for policies that will bring them simply more hedonistic pleasures until the day they kill themselves

 

[Meat Target]

Great, maybe the Russians can capture and reverse-engineer one of those. That's how the AK was made.

Acktchually, according to Gun Jesus, that's not the case.

The Germans and the Russians both came to the conclusion of an intermediate-power rifle from opposite points. The Sturmgewehr was developed because the Germans wanted a scaled-down rifle less clunky than a bolt-action Mauser. The Russians, on the other hand, developed the AK as like a souped-up submachine gun.

 

[Drain Todger]

Americans bought their own propaganda. I was in school in the years after 9/11, and I remember all the fucking "kumbaya, peace on earth" bullshit they tried to drill into people's minds back then. I even bought some of it myself, buying the shitty takes that democracies are better at maintaining individual rights and that society isn't hurt by what people are doing in the privacy of their own homes. But that shitty 90s attitude has been clearly unmasked by the last two decades to just have been bullshit. Your "rights" are merely privileges that you've been granted, and the more liberal the politician the more likely they will want to take those privileges away from you. And the "privacy of your own home" argument was just to get the foot in the door, now you've got to accept the fucking weed smoking tranny faggots as they steal, molest, defraud, and vote for policies that will bring them simply more hedonistic pleasures until the day they kill themselves

What if they never wanted liberalization in the first place? What if they just said it was, so that what they were doing would seem more palatable to a weary public?

What if chaos, violence, failed states, and refugees flooding into Europe was exactly what was desired? What if all this was done on purpose?

 

[Lone MacReady]

Acktchually, according to Gun Jesus, that's not the case.

The Germans and the Russians both came to the conclusion of an intermediate-power rifle from opposite points. The Sturmgewehr was developed because the Germans wanted a scaled-down rifle less clunky than a bolt-action Mauser. The Russians, on the other hand, wanted a scaled-up submachine gun.

I just call it like I see it, and the AK is a fucking copy-cat at the very least. China loves doing that kind of shit too.

 

[Walrus and Carpenter]

RWA is Pro-Russian Propaganda I am just looking at raw video with no spin, looks like the Russians took a loss and that column got re-routed. In short you are posting cope.

Look at the post on their account if you dare. Unlike the shit you posted it doesn't have extraneous bullshit cut in to try to make it more dramatic.

 

[Strix454]

Your "rights" are merely privileges that you've been granted, and the more liberal the politician the more likely they will want to take those privileges away from you. And the "privacy of your own home" argument was just to get the foot in the door, now you've got to accept the fucking weed smoking tranny faggots as they steal, molest, defraud, and vote for policies that will bring them simply more hedonistic pleasures until the day they kill themselves

The Canadians recently found that out the hard way. Their constitution and all its supposed sacred rights could simply be revoked by a minority government declaring an emergency. And nobody could do anything about it.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Look at the post on their account if you dare. Unlike the shit you posted it doesn't have extraneous bullshit cut in to try to make it more dramatic.

Just post it why do I have to prove your claims?

The Canadians recently found that out the hard way. Their constitution and all its supposed sacred rights could simply be revoked by a minority government declaring an emergency. And nobody could do anything about it.

Turns out you can't block roadways for 3 weeks and keep declaring it a protest. Try this strat out anywhere else and see if it doesn't result in the removal of the disturbance.

 

[AssManWaitingInTheSkies]

Well it actually does seem that the Russians have more vehicles than the Ukrainians have missiles, but at this point I have to question the value of the whole affair. Day 1 the Russophiles were pretty adamant that this was all worth it and that they would sacrifice thousands of slavs to bring Ukraine under Russian control, but if they still believe that then they're blind to the actual cost of the conflict. One person suggested that Ukraine is rich in natural resources, which is completely laughable. The only resource in Ukraine is agriculture, and the Russians have plenty of unused agricultural land themselves. It would have been far better to spend the nations resources on developing Russian soil than dropping bombs on Ukrainian soil.

At some point the Russophiles will have to agree that it was rather stupid to turn Russian geopolitical fears into a self fulfilling prophesy, you do not dissuade anyone from joining the "anti-russia alliance" by invading those not in the alliance. China has done far better with a more underhanded approach to political influence rather than using force. And no, you do not get to justify Russian aggression because Moscow is "too vulnerable" if you can line NATO troops on the Ukrainian border. Almost anyone who isn't the US is in a vulnerable position in case of an invasion, and perhaps it would be better to secure the border through cooperation rather than giving every nation you border an excuse to hit back. Funnily enough the Russians are more in danger of losing territory to China than NATO. Only China is flooding Russia with its citizens and giving themselves a future excuse to secure Russian territory to "protect the Chinese people" just like how Russia is claiming Ukrainian territory to "protect the Russian people"

TLDR and wrong obviously. It's being done for the sake of owning hohols and that's pretty much it. Nobody in russia believes in "protecting russian people" or anything like that. War's just glorified "pig-cutter" as they refer to it.

 

[Übertroon]

What if they never wanted liberalization in the first place? What if they just said it was, so that what they were doing would seem more palatable to a weary public?

What if chaos, violence, failed states, and refugees flooding into Europe was exactly what was desired? What if all this was done on purpose?

"liberalization" is a lie anyway. You get away with way more sketchy shit in "fascist" nations such as China. The only benefit the "liberal" nations had was being more stable and consistent. No fear of some government stooge using his authority to fuck your shit up because he doesn't like your face. But shit like the pandemic response and people having their bank accounts frozen for not supporting government policy shows that there is no distinction anymore

 

[JosephStalin]

- He managed to nearly destroy what passes for US relations with France over the Australian Submarine deal.
- He completely messed up the US southern border.
- He destroyed US relations with most of the countries in the Persian Gulf due to his irrational love of Iran. To a point where they don't return his phone calls.
- He sent his idiot secretary of state all around Asia trying to sell countries on his Cold War II plan of an American Bloc in Asia. Everyone politely told them to go away.
- He threw the military into chaos with a witch hunt for a Trump conspiracy inside it that doesn't exist and created political divisions within it.
- (this one is a positive but...) His entire legislative agenda was dead on arrival in congress.
- He refused to anything about the so-called "supply" situation
- He first denied that there was any inflation and then he proposed that the cure for inflation was more inflation in the form of spending.
- He administration had no policy at all concerning China.
- He ignored rising crime rates and rising violence in the country.

Oh, for the "winner" label.

 

[Übertroon]

Turns out you can't block roadways for 3 weeks and keep declaring it a protest. Try this strat out anywhere else and see if it doesn't result in the removal of the disturbance.

They'll allow it if the powers that be agrees with the protestors. They'll let them burn your house down, drag you out unto the street, and rape your children in front of you. And they think it's funny

 

[Generic Retard]

I don't know guys why are you even disscussing US bioweapon. It's already been confirmed, as well as it is designed to kill only slavs.
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And here I thought it was vocal chord parasites, call me fiddled

 

[OctopodaEnjoyer]

I just call it like I see it, and the AK is a fucking copy-cat at the very least. China loves doing that kind of shit too.

The issue with this claim is that they don't operate in the same way. The exterior is superfluously similar, but the mechanisms and construction technique are very different. The basic aesthetic is about the only similarity they have, and even then basically every rifle that's not a bullpup that has been designed for the roles they were has looked vaguely similar.

 

[DumbDude42]

Just post it why do I have to prove your claims?

Turns out you can't block roadways for 3 weeks and keep declaring it a protest. Try this strat out anywhere else and see if it doesn't result in the removal of the disturbance.

unless you're a pack of niggers hollering about saint floyd, then you can burn cities to the ground for half a year straight while the government cheers you on lol

 

[Disheveled Human]

unless you're a pack of niggers hollering about saint floyd, then you can burn cities to the ground for half a year straight while the government cheers you on lol

Trump was ineffective at stopping riots. Sad when Trudeau settled a bunch of bad ass truckers in 3 weeks flat.

 

[Meat Target]

Trump was ineffective at stopping riots.

Because any action he would have taken would've been Annuda Kent State.

The issue with this claim is that they don't operate in the same way. The exterior is superfluously similar, but the mechanisms and construction technique are very different. The basic aesthetic is about the only similarity they have, and even then basically every rifle that's not a bullpup that has been designed for the roles they were has looked vaguely similar.

Mikhail Kalashnikov took a good deal of inspiration from the M1 Garand.

 

[Just Another Apocalypse]

One person suggested that Ukraine is rich in natural resources, which is completely laughable. The only resource in Ukraine is agriculture

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-economy/3280369-maasikas-ukraine-has-deposits-of-21-raw-materials-critical-to-eu.html

Not saying that Russia have invaded Ukraine for rare earth, but they do have natural resources.

 

[Übertroon]

Trump was ineffective at stopping riots. Sad when Trudeau settled a bunch of bad ass truckers in 3 weeks flat.

The US president has limited authority to end national unrest. That's normally handled on a state or city level. That's why the response to the violence was completely different depending upon which state or city you resided in. Trump offered federal law enforcement and military to aid in ending the violence, but was rebuked by state officials who wanted the violence to continue. To go against state level officials would have led to such a fucking shitshow. This is why federal buildings turned into sieges in Democrat controlled cities, as they became the only place where the federal government could actually defend itself.

 

[Strix454]

Trump was ineffective at stopping riots. Sad when Trudeau settled a bunch of bad ass truckers in 3 weeks flat.

Trump as President lacked the power to suspend the American constitution and the Bill of Rights. Trudeau could have machine gunned all the truckers and sold their families into slavery through the Canadian concept of "emergency" legislation.