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Express RX-78 said:
This Kenobi show demonstrates another huge problem Disney has with Star Wars: their refusal to do anything pre or post Original Trilogy. Other than the garbage High Republic (something they themselves created), they refuse to set anything in the PT era or after the OT, AKA the sequel era (which is utter trash but that's besides the point). They've gone out of their way to make OT content and it's getting stale. I'm not talking about doing more of Filoni's shit either.

It's the same characters in the same locations doing the same things. Hell the sequels are just a watered down OT in tone and aesthetic, which the fans were okay with back in 2015 solely for the nostalgia pandering but completely fucked it over in terms of stories they can tell. Sure the OT is the most popular Star Wars era, but the PT has it's fans too. People bitch that the galaxy feels too small but then consume products that refuse to go outside of the setting of the first three Star Wars films.
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Also they're retarded and keep spamming Tatooine as a setting. Don't get me wrong, I like that planet too, but it's a backwater and they've spammed it repeatedly for their braindead projects. But you can do stories on other planets... oh wait Dave and the creatives are retards digging through McQuarrie's graveyard of rejected ideas since they have none of their own.
Din Djarin said:
I really think I'm the only person on the Farms who liked TBOBF and is excited for Kenobi, and that's okay. It's probably because I haven't read any of legends and gone down into the lore spiral and stuff. I do like reading all the back and forth discussion while I just sit in the corner like the autist I am.
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No there's others but I just assume you guys have little to no standards tbh. I also barely touched the EU at all and actually didn't care for it too much back in the day, but I don't think there's much salvaging from these Disney things.
 
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When IG-11 inevitably goes bad somehow I'm sure there is only one person in the galaxy who can stop it, Dave's bargain bin "I can't believe she's not a Twi'lek substitute" waifu
 
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When IG-11 inevitably goes bad somehow I'm sure there is only one person in the galaxy who can stop it, Dave's bargain bin "I can't believe she's not a Twi'lek substitute" waifu
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Don't worry; they'll just kill him again and then bring him back because in LucasFilms, that which is eternal cannot lie, for in its madness, even death may die.
 
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Lucasfilm Boss Kathleen Kennedy Gets Candid About Obi-Wan Kenobi Script Problems

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Obi-Wan Kenobi is set to feature a rematch between two beloved Star Wars characters: the titular Jedi Master and Darth Vader. The upcoming Disney+ series will follow the story of Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan as he monitors Luke Skywalker from afar while hiding from Vader's Inquisitors who are trying to purge the remaining Jedi Knights of the galaxy. However, his under-the-radar status was confirmed to be halted (for a bit) due to the upcoming rematch between the two former friends.

Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy already teased that the fight would be the "rematch of the century," also revealing that it is an emotional yet powerful confrontation. Although several plot details about the fight have leaked in the past weeks, many would agree that the duel between the Master and his former Padawan is still highly anticipated.

Now, as marketing ramps up for Obi-Wan Kenobi, new behind-the-scenes details have been unveiled, highlighting the show's script problems and Vader's openly debated comeback.

Lucasfilm Opens Up About Obi-Wan Kenobi's Script Problems​

Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy sat down with Entertainment Weekly to talk about the behind-the-scenes development of Obi-Wan Kenobi.

During the interview, Kennedy first admitted that she became concerned with the direction of the show's scripts, openly saying that they were initially looking "to make a hopeful, uplifting story," but it's tricky due to the period of time when Obi-Wan Kenobi is set:
"We're looking, ultimately, to make a hopeful, uplifting story. And it's tricky when you're starting with a character in the state that Obi-Wan would be in coming off of Revenge of the Sith. That's a pretty bleak period of time. You can't just wave the magic wand with any writer and arrive at a story that necessarily reflects what you want to feel."
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Due to Kennedy's hesitancy, the Lucasfilm boss temporarily shut down production in January 2020, pushing back its filming start date from August 2020 to January 2021. The studio also hired a new writer, Joby Harold, who took over from Hossein Amini, the original scribe of Kenobi's planned launch to the big screen.

Harold joined the conversation by revealing that Obi-Wan is a character "that's always been a minor obsession" of his. As a result, the Star Wars writer unveiled that he went on to"aggressively" deliver his idea for the series:
"This was a character that's always been a minor obsession of mine. And when I heard it was a character they were exploring, I very aggressively told them all the things I thought they should do."
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Harold, along with Obi-Wan Kenobi director Deborah Chow, crafted a new storyline that takes place 10 years after Revenge of the Sith.

Ewan McGregor, who returns to the role after the prequel trilogy, shared more interesting tidbits about his Star Wars character. The actor described Obi-Wan as a "broken man" and someone who feels an "enormous amount of responsibility" for what happened to his friend, Anakin Skywalker, and the Jedi order:
"Obi-Wan is lost. He's a broken man after what happened with the Jedi order at the end of Episode III, but also what happened with Anakin; that he lost him to the dark side. He feels an enormous amount of responsibility for that, and guilt."
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The six-episode series was said to focus on Obi-Wan's journey from pain to at least a semblance of peace.

Harold continued by revealing that his focus is to tell the story of how Obi-Wan transformed into a "very emotional" Jedi Master from the prequels to a "Zen Master" in Star Wars: A New Hope:
"When we last saw Obi-Wan in the prequels, he's very emotional. There's a passion to him. And when we get to see him again in A New Hope, he is the Zen master. That was the story that I wanted to understand — what had happened to Obi-Wan between the guy that Ewan had brought to life and the guy that Sir Alec Guinness brought to life."
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When asked how much of the original plot from the initial film made it into the series, Chow shared that they "inherited some of it, but we did really make some significant changes and add a few different elements."

It was also revealed that an internal debate happened that mainly focused on bringing Hayden Christensen's Darth Vader out of retirement.

Kennedy shared that the debate about bringing back Vader in the series was "carried on for quite some time," admitting that the creative team had "strong opinions" about the matter:
"The debate around whether we should do that or not carried on for quite some time. Everybody within our creative team has strong opinions, and all of our fans have strong opinions. So when you realize that you're under that level of scrutiny, certainly a story point like that is going to be scrutinized at a very high level. We talked about it constantly."
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The Long Road to Obi-Wan Kenobi's Series Debut​

Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy's latest reveal about the behind-the-scenes development of Obi-Wan Kenobi is an indication of how the studio is closely working with the creatives to craft the best possible story for the franchise.

Lucasfilm's goal of creating a "hopeful, uplifting story" seems to hint that this could be the endgame of the series, potentially teasing that Obi-Wan could successfully evade the whole might of Vader's forces.

Given that the galaxy is still experiencing the threat of the Empire during this time, Obi-Wan's heroics, which could be either seen or unseen by the galaxy, might serve as the launchpad for the underdogs to step up. As a result, this could slowly set up the events of Rogue One and A New Hope.

Obi-Wan's transformation into "Zen Master" in A New Hope is also an intriguing storyline for the series to dive into. Based on Joby Harold's remarks, it appears that part of the show's storyline will tell exactly how an emotional Jedi Master became a calm yet compelling individual by the time he encounters a teenage Luke Skywalker.

It's possible that Obi-Wan will eventually find out that Darth Vader is his former friend, Anakin Skywalker, in the series, and he could go all in to try and save him. However, the rematch might be the reason for his transformation, since he would likely realize that his friend was too far gone.

That said, Obi-Wan may go back to Tatooine and fully dedicate his life to protecting Luke without any more side missions. This might also explain why he is hesitant to share with the young Skywalker that his father is still alive and Darth Vader during A New Hope.

Obi-Wan Kenobi is set to premiere on Disney+ on May 25, 2022.
 
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Holy shit a Kathleen Kennedy led project with massive problems??
Color me shocked.
It's possible that Obi-Wan will eventually find out that Darth Vader is his former friend, Anakin Skywalker, in the series, and he could go all in to try and save him. However, the rematch might be the reason for his transformation, since he would likely realize that his friend was too far gone.

That said, Obi-Wan may go back to Tatooine and fully dedicate his life to protecting Luke without any more side missions. This might also explain why he is hesitant to share with the young Skywalker that his father is still alive and Darth Vader during A New Hope.
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oh god damnit
Obi-Wan's transformation into "Zen Master" in A New Hope is also an intriguing storyline for the series to dive into. Based on Joby Harold's remarks, it appears that part of the show's storyline will tell exactly how an emotional Jedi Master became a calm yet compelling individual by the time he encounters a teenage Luke Skywalker.
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Do we really need to see this? It seems like Kennedyfilm is hellbent on filling in every gap between the OT movies with meaningless information for autists instead of trying to explain things like the massive slap-in-the-face disconnect between the ending of ROTJ and the beginning of TFA.
 
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TheAmbiguousLurker said:
Yes, we need to show Obi-Wan realizing that Anakin is too far gone and dedicating his life to watching over Luke. I mean, it's not like we had a movie that basically showed this already.
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It’s transparent that Disney are filling in every possible gap in the timeline so that they don’t have to come up with post-Sequel Trilogy stories, but consoomers will lap it up.
 
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The Valeyard said:
It’s transparent that Disney are filling in every possible gap in the timeline so that they don’t have to come up with post-Sequel Trilogy stories, but consoomers will lap it up.
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Pretty sure I already said this but they should have based the obi wan show on his implied adventures with dexter jettster that took place before episode 2 as that would really be a big space you could go absolutely nusts in in terms of world building and timeline hole-filling. However that would requireobi wan and dex to be equals and no corporate approved female character to upstage him and retroactively make him seem incompetent like disney wars tends to do it like. 2 dudes getting roped into weird shit having to thwart shady space-crime, and one's a weird 4 armed partly cgi alien dude? Too out there, too risky and not "economically viable" enough according to their model probably. also PREQUELS BAD!!! save for when they lift shit from the prequels.
 
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Registration said:
just put an younger actor that looks like Lee (I know it is hard) but a story from the apparent Dark Side would be something new for disney, not trying to make everyone a fucking good guy.
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Wasn't dooku's motivation a bit more complex than just "dark side" which is why palpatine was like "haha good anikin, very good! ...kill him. kill him now... DO IT!" when anikin beat dooku's ass in episode 3? Like ifthere's any character disney could try the good guy angle with it'd be him to an extent.
 
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The Lawgiver said:
Wasn't dooku's motivation a bit more complex than just "dark side" which is why palpatine was like "haha good anikin, very good! ...kill him. kill him now... DO IT!" when anikin beat dooku's ass in episode 3? Like ifthere's any character disney could try the good guy angle with it'd be him to an extent.
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Yes, he was more nuanced.

I would use the old canon ways of making him unsatisfied with the republic era jedi way of doing things and making him lose hope in it and putting him in places where he only could help by using dark side powers, transitioning into the movie dookus.

Regardless, his end in the movies is so terrible and simplistic. CIS has a great potential of storytelling (one of my favorite SW stories kinda focus on them (Battle of Jabiim). But it would hard for disney to put nuanced reasons to why fight a war and be against the republic or jedi anyways.

Jesus, how some comic from 2004 can have more insight into the star wars themes than disney ever had?
 
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Guys this is Disney, their room of retards writers can't handle nuance or unexplored possibilities or new locations. They are akin to an autistic child who refuses to draw on anything but a coloring book. But when given said book they proceed to scribble wildy outside the lines, paste the pages together with gogurt, drench it in kool aid, and then get upset when you throw out their mess instead of praising their artistic talent.
 
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