Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Übertroon]

You Putin apologist America haters have been lying to me. VP Harris' trip to Europe was a demonstration of masterful diplomacy.

"She managed to avoid any public discord. But even a diplomatic victory left questions about how the conflict roiling Eastern Europe will end."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/politics/kamala-harris-poland-romania/index.html

The biden administration must be seeking to end the war sooner rather than later. They only send VP Harris out when they need another international disaster.

 

[Strix454]

IWhat kind of fucking government orders its people to lay down their arms and accept occupation?

A government run by a bunch of really evil people behind the scenes who consider Ukrainian and the people of the Ukraine nothing more than their personal property. The war is being fought entirely for their personal interests. The interests of the Ukrainian people mean less than nothing to them.

If they decide to surrender, Ukraine will surrender. What Zelensky thinks does not matter in the least. What the people of Ukraine think does not matter.

There are two possible outcomes for the war. Being the slaves of Ukrainian Oligarchs or being the slaves of Russian Oligarchs. Either way, Ukraine and Russia are still going to be slave countries.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Noooo you can't turn your brain back on and reject the narrative! Don't you know that anyone who thinks for themselves is a racist Nazi!?

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While supporting legit nazis lol.

 

[Simpadoo]

I'm gonna press X to doubt on that one. Maybe he increased protections against conventional EMPs that a terrorist could conceivably smuggle into the country to wreak havoc on small portions of our power grid.

A High-altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) will result in a ~22-30 Kilovolts/meter energy pulse. Multiply that by thousands of miles of power lines and the current induced in those lines will be positively astronomical. Your outlets, computer, and that surge protector you bought from Walmart will literally burst into flames (this has been tested by the Air Force). Every single nuclear silo in the US has an Electrical Surge Arrestor (ESA) the size of a room (think the Walmart Surge Protector but 1000x larger).

The only way to protect your entire power grid from something like that is if every single power draw from the grid also has an ESA shed. This means every bank, server farm, house, apartment complex, government building, etc. needs their own ESA shed. Remember, the energy is being spread more-or-less evenly across continental United States. You can't just slap ESA sheds on substations because there's enough powerline between the substation and your house to fuck up everything you own that's plugged into an outlet.

We only have ESA vaults on Nuclear Silos and maybe certain critical government buildings because of the prohibitive expense. These are the only things that really need to work post-attack for the Mutually Assured Destruction to work anyway. Think about it - if the US truly had the technological capability to withstand a HEMP, the globalhomo would've eradicated Russia under the thinnest of pretenses long ago. The fact that they're throwing an economic bitchfit but refusing to engage Russia militarily and risk escalation should be telling.

Lol. That scenario you’re describing is as real as cold fusion. I doubt the Air Force caused the Eastern seaboard or any significant portion of the US to fry. That’s what it would take to test this. Please explain how you can generate energy out of nothing because that’s what you’re positing: that the nuclear explosion will convert a large percentage of energy to the EMP which will in turn multiply itself a millionth-fold due to the presence of conductors?

If that were true, we would have cheap and endless energy like Wakanda. Absolutely ridiculous.

Hardening from an EMP can be done also by isolation (Farady cage), proper dissipation methods etc. There is a lot of literature on this and I was concerned at first on the prospect of the EMP but now, not so much.

Critical infrastructure like Mai power generator facilities and major hospitals are now resistant to EMP damage.

It’s why the countermeasures to substations were of nominal cost.

If your electrical equipment is powered off and disconnected, the EMP won’t do shit.

Hypothetically, you can make your own pocket EMP and fey a cops car and dashboard cam if you’re pulled over and you could conceivably harden your vehicle so it is unaffected.

 

[Strix454]

Zelensky said today that the talks are "progressing" and that there is now "actual dialogue instead of throwing ultimatums at each other", for what it's worth. No date for the next official peace netotiations was provided, however.

The peace conversations are all happening in Israel. The most important recent news on the whole war were the stories in the Israeli press that the Israeli prime minister was urging Ukraine to negotiate an end to the war. Those stories have since been walked back and denied. But they were reported from very credible sources.

 

[LUNEKO]

You Putin apologist America haters have been lying to me. VP Harris' trip to Europe was a demonstration of masterful diplomacy.

"She managed to avoid any public discord. But even a diplomatic victory left questions about how the conflict roiling Eastern Europe will end."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/politics/kamala-harris-poland-romania/index.html

>She managed to avoid any public discord
>Geez thats worded a bit negatively, i wonder what's the source
>CNN
Jesus even their most loyal dog is growling at them now, wonder if they'll try to rally up war hysteria one last time or if they are done with it now

 

[Oxous]

How would they even conduct this poll? Polls are already unreliable in the USA when they're conducted via randomized phone dialing and/or randomized email contacting, but the USA isn't being invaded by a more powerful force. Many Ukranians have already left, the ones remaining are probably too worried about many other things to respond to a pollster, which means the subset of the population that *does* respond is not representative of Ukranians as a whole. If you poll all the Ukranians who left and the Ukranians who are currently stressing out hard over the invasion, you might get much less favorable numbers, especially if it's done in a way that comfortably assures respondents of anonymity.

Fair points, although (don't quote me on this) given how easy it is to track everyone's cell phones they might have some means of filtering out callers outside Ukraine? I guess this is a matter of subjective viewpoints, but I don't think any potential difference in opinion among Ukrainian refugees and people more likely to respond to a pollster would change the overall trend, which is that Zelensky's approval has skyrocketed massively due to the invasion.

I, personally, think it will wear off once the war is over (assuming Zelensky isn't deposed or dies). But it will probably be enough of a boost that he'll comfortably get a second term.

 

[Hell on Earth]

Watching video on twatter of Russian columns getting ambushed and holy shit they're trundling down roads absolutely no scouts on their flanks and the Ukies are shooting anti tank missiles at their vehicles from light cover like a hundred feet away. wtf you doin Russia that's just retarded

And I saw videos where Ukries are leaving tons of equipment every time they leave a settlement in eastern Ukraine and even separatist/Russian soldiers are starting to adopt Javelins and NLAWS in significant numbers.

I also saw a vid of a Ukrie safehouse getting bombed.

There's also that video of the assault on Hostomel airport in the first days of the war.

 

[B_mizz]

Sergey Khlan, a former member of the Ukrainian Parliament and apparently a member of Kherson's regional council (can't quickly find verification of that though) claims on Facebook (waiting for an archive) that the Russians are preparing for a sham referendum where they will create a "People's Republic of Kherson".
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Translation, Google Translate seems to have made a couple errors so my guesses at corrections are in brackets:

So thats the plan then a bunch of independent states that can join Russia later if they want? But nothing big enough to actually challenge Russia alone? That actually makes some good sense and gives us a picture of Putins endgame here.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

You Putin apologist America haters have been lying to me. VP Harris' trip to Europe was a demonstration of masterful diplomacy.

"She managed to avoid any public discord. But even a diplomatic victory left questions about how the conflict roiling Eastern Europe will end."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/11/politics/kamala-harris-poland-romania/index.html

When even CNN can only damn you with faint praise. I almost feel for the Dems when Uncle Joe dies and they have to feed this bitch to Drumpf in 2024.

 

[Reddit Gold]

I say the Zs are the funniest part of this conflict. It started with the Russian military realising that their junk is barely discernible from Ukraine's junk, so they put Zs on their shit to tell them apart. Next thing you know Ukrainians parade that captured junk, then even paint their own junk with Zs to inflate the casualties. Now the Russians are painting Ukraine's captured junk with Zs to show just how fucking pwned they are.

 

[PittyKitty]

A government run by a bunch of really evil people behind the scenes who consider Ukrainian and the people of the Ukraine nothing more than their personal property. The war is being fought entirely for their personal interests. The interests of the Ukrainian people mean less than nothing to them.

If they decide to surrender, Ukraine will surrender. What Zelensky thinks does not matter in the least. What the people of Ukraine think does not matter.

There are two possible outcomes for the war. Being the slaves of Ukrainian Oligarchs or being the slaves of Russian Oligarchs. Either way, Ukraine and Russia are still going to be slave countries.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Which tabloid was this?

Maybe Daily Mail, but Pootin gonna blow up Chernobyl seems a tale common to a bunch of them.

 

[Sopmod Senior]

Time for some schizo posting. This statement in particular:

"The idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in, American pilots and American crews, just understand. Don't kid yourself, no matter what you all say, that's called World War Three, okay?"

I have absolute faith that ol' Senile Joe and Giggly Kamala fully intend for this to turn into boots on the ground in Ukraine after this. Why? One word: Trains.

Now I know Joe is old enough to remember when railway artillery and armored trains were a thing but that's not what I'm referring to. A train can't conduct kinetic warfare. It can't launch a cruise missile from under the ocean to hit targets thousands of miles away, it can't shoot down enemy aircraft before they even know it's there and it sure as hell can't blow the turret off of an enemy tank while on the move cross country. You know what a train CAN do? It allows you to move entire divisions in marching order from their port of debarkation right to their rally areas in, oh, Poland, Slovakia, Romania and Hungary. It also lets you do the more boring but much more important part of war: logistics and resupply. Think about it. You have how many trains a day of refugees coming OUT of the country...how hard would it be for that train going to Lviv to be carrying a US Armored Task Force? Joe's handlers need to keep him from talking because I feel he spilled the beans here (again).

Also with regards to chemical and biological weapons:

"We’re not going to let Russia get away with gaslighting the world or using the UN Security Council as a venue for promoting their disinformation." Huh, ballsy. Glad that never happened before....wait a minute...



Also there was a comment from Zelensky that I can't seem to find directly now but was in regards to the chemical and biological weapons threat from Ukraine, it was essentially 'when Russia accuses you of doing something look at what Russia is doing'. Ok, so you found NBC suits on Russian soldiers. That's standard issue gear, especially if you were traveling through the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. US troops wore and carried MOPP gear for most of Iraqi Freedom. That's not a smoking gun. Also I'm kind of an old hat at this but I have NEVER heard the MSM throw around the word 'false flag' like they have been. The only time I've heard them use it before is to poke fun at 'conspiratards'.

And finally, sometimes coincidences are weird. This is from a German series called World War 3: The Movie made in the late 90s. It's worth watching the whole movie if you like this kind of thing but long story short, Soviet Union cracks down on East Germany, pushes into NATO territory, gets it's shit pushed in and this is the last part of the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57GtzLPAVWM

March 31st is when the Russian bomber takes off. Implausible?
Also remember, no boots on the ground in Libya, no boots on the ground in Syria...how'd that turn out?
Schizo posting done.

 

[White_N]

Never thought I would do this but I prayed for Putin/Russia to prevail. I am convinced he is on the right side. Russia is taking on The Globohomo and doing the Lord's work. God bless them.

Thanks bratan, I'll drink a forty percent poison, for some reason, called vodka, to your health.

 

[Duke Nukem]

While supporting legit nazis lol.

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Fuck you Nazi I #TweetForeYouCrane

This shit is just like US politics, it's not about who's right or wrong, or good or evil, but whose cock you wanna suck. And maybe, just maybe...I don't want to suck any cocks.

By the way this is a fantastic forum/text message weapon and I'm going to store it for future use.

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Thanks bratan, I'll drink a forty percent poison, for some reason, called vodka, to your health.

Come to think of it I found a bottle of Russian Standard vodka at the liquor store. The cashier laughed at me but I just said, hey man, it's all bought and paid for before all this shit kicked off. I don't even drink vodka, I just picked up a bottle to troll the blue and yellow crowd.

 

[Random Internet Person]

And now it’s time for Putin’s buddies to get fucked. This won’t cause resentment at all. https://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea...ue-after-uk-government-sanctions?platform=amp

 

[Strix454]

And now it’s time for Putin’s buddies to get fucked. This won’t cause resentment at all. https://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea...ue-after-uk-government-sanctions?platform=amp

Boris Johnson has more to fear in this than any Russian. You can do alot of things as UK Prime Minster, but if your sanctions policy starts fucking with premier league football, that alone could bring the government down.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Russian drone strikes
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A Chinese journalist interviews Russian troops in Mariupol.
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Ukrainian citizens pleading for arms to be moved away from civilian buildings (we have basements full of children).
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American white soldiers and Russian white soldiers look very similar that I am unable to tell the difference.

The Russians could try that gayop that the Germans tried during the of the Battle of the Bulge.

Also that telegram channel of that Chinese interview has some nice gamer pfps.

 

[Übertroon]

Lol. That scenario you’re describing is as real as cold fusion. I doubt the Air Force caused the Eastern seaboard or any significant portion of the US to fry. That’s what it would take to test this. Please explain how you can generate energy out of nothing because that’s what you’re positing: that the nuclear explosion will convert a large percentage of energy to the EMP which will in turn multiply itself a millionth-fold due to the presence of conductors?

If that were true, we would have cheap and endless energy like Wakanda. Absolutely ridiculous.

Hardening from an EMP can be done also by isolation (Farady cage), proper dissipation methods etc. There is a lot of literature on this and I was concerned at first on the prospect of the EMP but now, not so much.

Critical infrastructure like Mai power generator facilities and major hospitals are now resistant to EMP damage.

It’s why the countermeasures to substations were of nominal cost.

If your electrical equipment is powered off and disconnected, the EMP won’t do shit.

Hypothetically, you can make your own pocket EMP and fey a cops car and dashboard cam if you’re pulled over and you could conceivably harden your vehicle so it is unaffected.

A nuclear blast holds a lot of potential energy. But the idea of using a nuclear detonation in the atmosphere as a EMP weapon is stupid. First off you're never going to test for the scenario as nobody is going to be testing nukes on actual cities and critical infrastructure. Secondly if you fire a nuke at D.C. or Moscow the missiles are going to be launched anyhow, nobody is going to wait around to see if it's going to be detonated in the atmosphere or not. You'll only see this shit in movies and video games