Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

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Pretty good graph I found based off the ISW maps which are fairly reliable. Really shows that Russia has became completely stuck on the cities and suburbs, and are now seemingly having issues going through the country side thanks to ambushes and lack of fuel. Until they manage to finally secure Mariupol it's unlikely the Russians make any major gains.
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They just took Volnovakha, and are setting up for sieges in Brovary and Mykolaiv. That is a very far cry from a stalled advance like what that chart is arguing.
 
Yeah I can't imagine they'd refuse to destroy their own language and culture if we tossed a couple of Funko pops their way. Maybe we'll send some of those Chinese cartoon figurines that have removable clothes with them, so they can masturbate themselves out of existence like in the rest of Asia.
it just keeps getting better with this guy
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>dude just shoot down the incoming missiles lmao
>just don't get hit haha
i'll stop reading that fucking reddit thread now cause this level of retardation seriously makes me mad
 
CHINA will face CONSEQUENCES

Lmao no way. Fucking try it, sleepy Joe. 3 weeks before every walmart super center is a barren wasteland and six months before everything starts to look nigger rigged like in Cuba

@Duke Nukem
Did you even read the pamphlet? Russia bad.
Yeah I spent more of my life on that bullshit than I should have.
 
Lol, the US government is trying to bully China into submission :story:View attachment 3069596
Aahahahhahahahahhaha.
Burgers are really retarded if they think they can bully china like they've been bullying russia with sanctions. All china has to do is flip a pen and big corpos that outsorce their shit in china will start shitting themselves.
 
They just took Volnovakha, and are setting up for sieges in Brovary and Mykolaiv. That is a very far cry from a stalled advance like what that chart is arguing.
They don't have to stop their advance just because it's difficult to take the cities. In fact they probably shouldn't stop.
If they have enough forces, they can just besiege them for now.
Unless they reach the western border, they can't stop supplies from other countries getting in...
 
I haven't kept up with this in some days because it's just tiring to see the media back and forth and larping and bullshit, so I just dip out whenever there's not a lot on the actual developing situation itself instead of clowns on the internet, but I have to say the diplomacy at play here by the United States government and its corporations (which frankly I hesitate to separate considering they form a two-part ouroboros) seems astoundingly sloppy and short sighted to me. From what I saw the war was a very unpopular decision in Russia itself, but the mood in general going overboard into an international FUCK RUSSIA as a whole all over the mass media changed things. I have a bad feeling that this is the sort of diplomatic disaster that's going to result in bad things ten years down the line or so.
I'm not going to simp for Putin or anybody because it's not like Russian glowies weren't supporting militias and seperatism ever since the Crimea shit, but considering that repeatedly over the course of decades the Russian administration has stated that a NATO affiliated Ukraine is unacceptable to their national security, I do have to ask if anybody even bothered trying or if they just assumed shit would magically get better if they ignored it long enough and kept doing exactly what they were doing. A complicated situation with mixed up historical regional politics and tension between an ethnic majority and minority, corrupt governments as far as the eye can see, and a potential to blow up into a large violent conflict? Surely this needs to have a delicate and expert diplomatic touch to try and ease tensions and come away with a tolerable state of affairs for each party?
Fuck it, let's just escalate. Uuuoooohh, I'm gonna ESCALAAAATE! Like come the fuck on. I'm admittedly about as familiar with this situation's broader history and the plays of each faction as I am with a vagina, so I'm always on the lookout for takes from either side, but from what I can see right now there's just an ass load of awful potential suffering that has literally no reason to happen but the powers that be are bum rushing for it either out of malice or sheer incompetence.
Normally, the point of diplomacy would be to get the United States the best deal possible in the outcome of "losing Ukraine." Or if that's too cynical for some people, the point of the US interest in Russia-Ukrainian diplomacy as an interested 3rd party would be to get Ukraine (or whatever is left of it after this war) the best deal possible. However, that's when you are dealing with sane adults. We're dealing with Neoconservatives here. They don't think in terms of realism, good deals or anything like that when it comes to diplomacy. I will say they are very effective at maintaining and expanding their power within the United States government, so they aren't fools. However, their point of view tends to be, "This leaders is a Hitler, kill him and destroy his government, no matter what the costs in money or blood." Every détente is a Munich waiting to happen. That means you can never have détente, just unconditional surrender by the enemy of the day. Well, no one will blame them if they manage to send the US or world economy into a depression trying to crush Russia, after all.
 
Aahahahhahahahahhaha.
Burgers are really retarded if they think they can bully china like they've been bullying russia with sanctions. All china has to do is flip a pen and big corpos that outsorce their shit in china will start shitting themselves.
do they want that though, is the question? like yeah it would be a big blow to america, but a similarly big blow to china at the same time, and in the long term it would probably lead to america trying to reduce its foreign trade reliance and become more self-sufficient again, which in turn would mean chinas current leverage against america and trading profits would go away.
 
Russia is pretty wild right now
The first woman:
Woman- I wonder if I say two words now whether they will arrest me? (literally "two words"on the sign )
Interviewer- You are already being detained


The second woman:
Woman- You interview only those who are against the special operation, but what about those who are satisfied with the actions of the government?
Interviewer-No, we interview everyone
Woman-I am satisfied... (arrested)
 
I overheard at a coffee place a contractor security guy. He claimed to have done mercenary work in Russia and Africa (I think). He says the initial Russia invasion was botched but they didn't send their best soldiers, just worse ones as a test. He said once Ukrainian citizens touch the rifles handed out they're no longer citizens but soldiers. He also said he got an offer yesterday to do contractor work for $2500/day and at least 5000 contractors are sent over by the US. He says mercenaries are a lot more effective than Russian soldiers so the resulting fight will be a lot more Russians soldiers against others. So Putin's strategy will be long range strikes, but everything in war is deception.

Now I have no idea if any of this is true or bullshit. But it sounded believable
I wouldn't doubt that contractors are more experienced fighters than the average Russian soldier. Many contractors are armed forces veterans, after all, but more effective? I have to doubt that, because an army isn't just its soldiers, it's the whole support structure and wide range of capabilities. Are these contractors going to have the support of an air force able to contest air superiority, artillery support able to engage and eliminate enemy artillery as well as support ground operations, and mechanized capabilities in order to affect strong counterattacks? No? Then I doubt they'd be in for a good time.

But hey that pay is no joke.

The sending worse soldiers thing is something I hear a lot of but I don't particularly believe because it just doesn't line up with the early strategy being employed. It lines up with what I'm seeing now, with Russia gearing up for a more brutal and destructive war instead of aiming for a very quick and decisive resolution, but I doubt that was the original intent.
On that subject, I think the Syrians that the Russians are having come over might also be something to throw on the diplomatic table to try and resolve things before they come around, though if they get there and engaged deep before that happens, well then they were prepared, at least. I figure it's the sort of move that goes roughly like "Oh, you're arming civilians to make the rear lines and urban fighting a war crime ridden slog? Well, allow me to introduce my friends Muhammed and Ahmad, they're well acquainted with fighting against militia and irregulars. Is this going to go on longer than it has to?"

Arguably that's already been put up with the Chechens but the Bashar Boys are far fresher in their experience.
 
He says the initial Russia invasion was botched but they didn't send their best soldiers, just worse ones as a test.
Makes sense with what we had seen in the first days. Videos of Russian POWs - young green men who had no clue where they were heading. I kinda believe what they were saying. They had to be stationed on the border for weeks, with no communications from the outside since they had their phones taken.
Although, I think it was rather a.. deliberate tactical maneuver.
Make them sacrificial pawns in order to show the main forces when and where to start the encirclement, while Ukrainians are cheering how shit Russian army is.
 
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