Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[DumbDude42]

Most European militaries are both broke and small

compared to the gigantic oversized american army, yes they are.
compared to the russian army, not necessarily. NATOs european forces combined have similar numbers of active duty soldiers as the russian armed forces have, and in terms of money they outspend the russians by a HUGE margin.

russia has a much larger nuclear arsenal than european NATO, but in conventional forces it is heavily outgunned.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Not Ukraine but on the progress of Westhomo every damn movie now has a mixed race couple in the main roles.

Spiderman and MJ
Batman and Batewoman
Adam and some negro woman in The Adam Project.
Welcome to brainwashing

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

The one blonde bitch under Trump was ok, I think it was McEnany? Though that might just be because she was there to tard wrangle the media and would show up with a binder full of counter points to present direct references to loaded questions.

Yeah, she was all right. Mainly because she was a snarky bitch and made journoscum look like idiots, and I found that funny, just like Tucker Carlson is entertaining because he's a snarky bitch, too. That one guy, Spicer, I think, he was even worse than Psaki, though.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

It was as if millions of chicken mcnuggets suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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Give the man his chicken tendies!

 

[The Other Baldwin]

Yeah, she was all right. Mainly because she was a snarky bitch and made journoscum look like idiots, and I found that funny, just like Tucker Carlson is entertaining because he's a snarky bitch, too. That one guy, Spicer, I think, he was even worse than Psaki, though.

Ah the good old days. The only shitty part is, in our standard-fare American politics revolving door bullshit, Psaki is going to slot into MSNBC like the good commie bitch that she is, and I will have to watch her spouting more bullshit ad-nauseum for the rest of the American experiment. Putin, just hit the red launch button already!

 

[3-2-1836]

i can also see a different mode of escalation.
if russia fully encircles kiev and starts shelling the city, it will be a blood bath. like, potentially hundreds of thousands of civilians massacred nd starved to death. i can see nato eventually issuing an ultimatum to russia, "stop the siege or we will intervene and lift it by force" to which russia says "no" and then i could actually see nato troops moving into ukraine and start fighting the russian army there.

the rationale will be "as long as we only fight on ukrainian territory and don't invade russia itself, they probably won't nuke us because they don't want to get nuked in return"
and whether that will actually hold true i genuinely do not know.

NATO is too pussy to even give Ukraine jets, what makes you think NATO is going to do shit beyond angry letters?

 

[Protistology]

Ukrainian currency.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Nobody "gives up their freedoms" to the government. That's ass-backwards thinking, whatever freedom you perceive yourself to have is a product of the limits of state power at present and areas of life which the state does not have an interest in controlling.

This is patently fucking false, people willingly write legislation to have their freedoms abrogated to bruise a political enemy all the time, latest example is the Earn It Act. Yes, people do offer their own freedoms on a sacrificial altar all the time, they make demands for it. Sometimes they're paid shills for the special interests, but frequently it's just idiots with tunnel vision trying to destroy a perceived threat.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It was as if millions of chicken mcnuggets suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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They're gonna paint a "Z" on him and send him to the front lines, aren't they?

 

[DumbDude42]

NATO is too pussy to even give Ukraine jets, what makes you think NATO is going to do shit beyond angry letters?

this war has a lot of nato countries in europe REALLY spooked already. the longer it goes on and the more brutal it gets, the more they will get riled up.
at the same time, the anti russian sentiment in the public sphere is growing at a very fast pace with no signs of slowing down. this too will keep growing larger as things keep going.
a month ago putin was seen as a wannabe tsar, today putin is portrayed as hitler, next month he will be double hitler, then triple hitler. the more putin is demonized, the more people will want to stop him.
at the same time, messaging about russian atrocities against ukraine will keep coming in on a daily basis. this too will increase the desire to step in and 'save the day'

don't make the mistake of thinking that all this propaganda is just for the plebs. it works on the elites too, including a lot of people with influence on politics. the longer this goes on, the stronger the political pressure for an intervention will get. will it actually happen, i don't know, i can't tell how likely it is, but i think it is definitely within the realm of possibility.

 

[Lone MacReady]

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Ukrainian currency.

Ahh, the good ol' all seeing big brother eye of the State, just like on our debased debt notes! They used to say "redeemable in Gold", but not anymore for some reason, wonder why... and when it changed, and why no one fought against it.

 

[Henry V]

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Ah the good old days. The only shitty part is, in our standard-fare American politics revolving door bullshit, Psaki is going to slot into MSNBC like the good commie bitch that she is, and I will have to watch her spouting more bullshit ad-nauseum for the rest of the American experiment. Putin, just hit the red launch button already!

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Forget the red launch button and let's go a step further with the meteor of doom.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Just to give some close combat perspective....and that is where I get my de-facto qualifications, the game Close Combat.

If you don't go in strength, you are fucked. Nobody wins a war singlehandedly. The only reason SEAL platoons or SPUSHUL FORCES detachments are viable is that the assets that are used to train, supply, deploy, and then provide actionable intelligence to them are of high quality. It's basically a Training x Supply x Intelligence x Cohesion equation. And even then they fuck up all the time. See: 21 SEALs etc getting wrecked by an RPG-7. It's never perfect. The guys in Ukraine have very little of all of these things, other than what western intelligence and supply gets them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna44043847

I have no idea what these morons going over there are thinking other than they want attention on Reddit. Well...they are getting it. I hope they made peace with whatever Internet god they chose, because they are going to be reading those upvotes from a different plane of existence.

Have any actual Redditors gone. The only stories I've seen have been about actual exMilitary people going over.

 

[Narcotics]

Google translate butchered the text a little, but basically burgers are probably unsure about sanctioning china if it turns out china is sending military shit to russia.
edit, fuckers edited it while i was posting it.

 

[Rezza]

There's a reason sites like 2ch are hosted outside of Russia. I don't understand people who still think a Russia/China centric world would be any more free than it is now.

The hypocrisy of "muh free speech" people

Some people are saying it could be this military general. Which makes more sense because she's dressed in a military uniform and the hairstyle seems to match better.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetiana_Ostashchenko

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Notice how no one wants to talk about that Zelenskiy visit after you posted this, lol

No. The expectation was for little or no Uke resistance. Logistics/planning was based on that. You send your best available troops, such as VDV, as well. The Russians don't have the combat-ready forces the old Red Army had. There are many other places besides Ukraine that require combat troops in place. Russians sent what they had, not enough, now scraping up what they can get. mobilizing reservists. They have more forces than Ukraine, and eventually, like in Finland, they will likely grind out a win.

You want to win quickly. That's why you send in the best you have. Misleading the troops as to their mission is a typical Soviet/Russian move. Same thing happened in Czechoslovakia in 1968.

Reminder that the Russia and Belarus had an exercise right before the war. That's the pretext they gave to the conscript on why they're there on the border. No one knew they will invade Ukraine

But the fact that they're now switching to long range bombardment, and the reliance on foreign fighters, shows that they can't send any more Russian soldiers. The moment Putin and Kremlin is forced to admit the existence of conscripts in the war, they can't send anymore Russian soldiers lest they want to lose popular support

Short-term problems, longer-term opportunities. Already seeing some companies formerly in China heading to Vietnam/Mexico/back to the USA. Don't forget America sells a great deal of food to China, food not easily replaced, especially should Ukraine/Russia curtail food exports. Those countries will probably look to the USA/Brazil for that food.

China is also unevenly developed. They have a very long way to go until the entire country is built out. Go 25 miles outside a major city, go back 50 years.

This is why I always disagree with how the West won't sanction China, they only thing they have over the West is the factories. But you can move factories elsewhere, and they don't really have that much strategic natural resources that you can't get elsewhere

Just as much as the West depends on China, China also depends on the West, possibly even more

While I think Russia has been driven into a corner sphere of influence wise, I do think NATO is just the Russian boogeyman in this case. As soon as Ukraine started to leave Russia's sphere of influence its fate was sealed.

Even if Ukraine wasn't joining NATO or the EU to fall directly into the West's influence, Putin has a personal horse in all this, he does not believe Ukraine to be an actual, independent country in the first place, not because it's falling into the West's sphere of influence but is falling out of Russia's. He wrote a fucking Essay last year that straight up says the country of Ukraine is a made-up country. That it has no right to be independent because it's a part of Russia, he also thinks the same about Belarus.

This war is as much as about the West's sphere of influence encroaching into Russia as Putin finding it unacceptable that Ukraine isn't directly under Russia's thumb. Ukraine becoming a 'neutral' country probably would have only delayed the war, not prevent it.

Oh, there definitely will be another war, most likely in ten years time. The economic situation and the possibility of Putin being dead or gone in ten years time will make Russia unable to support any breakaway "republics" in Ukraine. As soon as the Russian pull the plug, Ukraine will move in to take back their territory

As a cold war state, Ukraine has tons and tons of bunkers, tunnel networks, and underground military facilities under its major cities. All likely packed with food, ammo, and other supplies for a long war.

Russia is going to have a hell of a time trying to clear them out without resorting to leveling whole cities with bunker-busting missiles and artillery.

And they can't do that because the West is watching too closely and wouldn't allow Afghan-War-style scorched earth tactics on Ukrainians.

They've really gotten themselves into a bad spot.

This is why I still believe that Insurgency is still possible for the Ukrainian. Besides, as long as they have the will to fight, Insurgency will keep happening. Just look at the French partisans in WWII

 

[AGPinochet]

Oh fug guys we got the Islamic emirate of Donetsk and Lugansk. Apparently
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I once read some excerpts of Memoirs written by an Ethnic Russian who left his shady ass job somewhere in Africa to come fight with the Separatists in Donbass, he said Allah Akbar was a very common war cry and its intent was mainly to make the Ukranians scared by making them think that Chechen fighters were in the area/engaging them (Chechens fighters are said to have a no prisoners policy)

@awoo
I am a subscriber to the YouTube Channel “Kit Badger“ which is run by an American name Ivan. He was a PMC at the height of the GWOT and he has said that there were a great many contracts available that paid $1,000 per day (for a length of 60-90 days) for those who had the right skills. $1,000 in say 2004 Dollars is $1,501.94 today.

2500x60 =150,000
2500x90= 225,000
2500x120=300,000

 

[The Other Baldwin]

What in the absolute fucking soy eating hell did I just watch half of. That was pretty hilarious. If that is satire it is He even has his masturbating glasses on. Well done.

Forget the red launch button and let's go a step further with the meteor of doom.

Well that settles it, the Russians can't nuke the United States....they would be killing a bunch of people who agree with them.

Have any actual Redditors gone. The only stories I've seen have been about actual exMilitary people going over.

Yes. Kind of. Twitter Autism warriors have been larping. A few black guys went. A bunch of western eurotards. If anyone who was in actual speshul operations goes over, it is because they want blood and are basically just retarded Viking wannabes who need a reddit badge of courage. They couldn't hack it dealing with a wife and kids and a normal job after they got out, so....off to Ukraine to die in a war they don't actually support.

 

[JosephStalin]

No, she's a dumb, vapid cunt who thinks that because she takes opposite positions and "stands for what she believes in", aka what she's told by her handlers or staff she's taking a stand or being honorable.
In other words, a bog standard "centrist" woman

Perhaps, but I'd still like all three with the Surf Mommy.

Ya, a while ago my brother called me and said Russia had requested aid from China for this war.

To borrow a quote from Saving Private Ryan, things have moved into the surreal.

if you listen carefully, you can hear every Russian Tsar, every dead Soviet leader, and Boris Yeltsin spinning in their graves at 2000 rpm. Nikita Khrushchev's going even faster since he was in power during the Sino-Soviet split. His turbo kicked in.

One great truth of life is Russians don't care much for Chinese. The Chinese don't care much for anyone else except other Han Chinese.

If Russia has, in fact, asked for ANY aid from China, Putin's telling the world his forces in their present state cannot get the job done in Ukraine. For some reason, I see a connection between this and Russia telling the two South Korean airlines they wouldn't be able to refuel their planes if they landed in Moscow.

Things to consider...first, did THAT much money intended to provide for the military end up in people's pockets? THAT much? The money for fuel/rations/supplies/tanks/trucks? Apparently Putin was betting on the come, that Ukraine would put up token or no resistance, and so the takeover was affordable. Putin's found himself fighting a poor man's war now, just enough to grind, not enough to win decisively without use of WMDs. What happened to Russia's reserves of equipment? Was it all sold off? Was it left to rust since those in charge of taking care of it just kept the money and let it go? What sort of support did Russia ask from China? Brother said equipment. Wonder what, maybe trucks. Can't see tanks or planes. He also mentioned unspecified "support". My guess - helping work around sanctions on the Russian economy. Surely Putin wouldn't ask for combat troops. China would be crazy to send them, and Chinese troops would have a good chance at being shot at by both sides in Ukraine. Not going to be that easy to send stuff to Russia. Not many rail/road links between China and Russia. Sending anything by ship could be problematical.

Every day this war goes on, Putin digs himself and Russia in deeper and deeper. Xi may provide some support, but suggest he has noticed Putin has awakened a dozing NATO. Am sure Xi has noticed there are still plenty of US forces in the Pacific.

To restate a previous observation. should NATO countries start mobilizing reserves/National Guard/Territorials/etc., shit's going to get real between NATO and Russia.

Vlad, seriously, declare victory and leave. Your professional ancestors think you've embarrassed the Rodina by asking the Chinese for ANYTHING.

 

[TurdFondler]

What in the absolute fucking soy eating hell did I just watch half of.

Samrov Hydinksi, the Ghost of Kiev