Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Lame Entropy]

 

[H. Bergeron]

Vlad, seriously, declare victory and leave. Your professional ancestors think you've embarrassed the Rodina by asking the Chinese for ANYTHING.

You even think he could do that right now? You seem to know more Russian history than my, ass, but I do recall Russia grinding the fuck out of wars that should have been easy and it not going well for the leaders that ordered it. Specifically, Japan and Afghanistan.

 

[theshep]

Stick him into a B-52 and drop him on Moscow.

 

[Richardface]

From what the state department is saying, looks like the Russians asked the Chinese for support in evading sanctions, not direct military aid which wouldn't make a lot of sense given the giant stockpile of Soviet crap the Russians can lean on if they are that desperate

Also the dead gay failing shadow of the red army is probably going to take mariupol tomorrow and execute all the nazis, which will be funny as it will enrage all the Twitter leftists

https://nitter.net/RWApodcast/status/1503139842561130508#m

 

[ditto]

so why can't Russia have a McPutins?

Looks delicious ngl

It was as if millions of chicken mcnuggets suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

Looks like he ate the Ghost of Kiev

 

[milk]

Perhaps, but I'd still like all three with the Surf Mommy.

Ya, a while ago my brother called me and said Russia had requested aid from China for this war.

To borrow a quote from Saving Private Ryan, things have moved into the surreal.

if you listen carefully, you can hear every Russian Tsar, every dead Soviet leader, and Boris Yeltsin spinning in their graves at 2000 rpm. Nikita Khrushchev's going even faster since he was in power during the Sino-Soviet split. His turbo kicked in.

One great truth of life is Russians don't care much for Chinese. The Chinese don't care much for anyone else except other Han Chinese.

If Russia has, in fact, asked for ANY aid from China, Putin's telling the world his forces in their present state cannot get the job done in Ukraine. For some reason, I see a connection between this and Russia telling the two South Korean airlines they wouldn't be able to refuel their planes if they landed in Moscow.

Things to consider...first, did THAT much money intended to provide for the military end up in people's pockets? THAT much? The money for fuel/rations/supplies/tanks/trucks? Apparently Putin was betting on the come, that Ukraine would put up token or no resistance, and so the takeover was affordable. Putin's found himself fighting a poor man's war now, just enough to grind, not enough to win decisively without use of WMDs. What happened to Russia's reserves of equipment? Was it all sold off? Was it left to rust since those in charge of taking care of it just kept the money and let it go? What sort of support did Russia ask from China? Brother said equipment. Wonder what, maybe trucks. Can't see tanks or planes. He also mentioned unspecified "support". My guess - helping work around sanctions on the Russian economy. Surely Putin wouldn't ask for combat troops. China would be crazy to send them, and Chinese troops would have a good chance at being shot at by both sides in Ukraine. Not going to be that easy to send stuff to Russia. Not many rail/road links between China and Russia. Sending anything by ship could be problematical.

Every day this war goes on, Putin digs himself and Russia in deeper and deeper. Xi may provide some support, but suggest he has noticed Putin has awakened a dozing NATO. Am sure Xi has noticed there are still plenty of US forces in the Pacific.

To restate a previous observation. should NATO countries start mobilizing reserves/National Guard/Territorials/etc., shit's going to get real between NATO and Russia.

Vlad, seriously, declare victory and leave. Your professional ancestors think you've embarrassed the Rodina by asking the Chinese for ANYTHING.

While I agree the Russo-Sino relationship is purely transactional, I don't really think the Communist party cares about their own people.

 

[Rezza]

I don't know if this has been said here, but Kadyrov is going to Ukraine to visit the Chechen forces there. Considering how good the intelligence Ukraine and the West have on the Russian movement, are we going to see something "unexpected" happening?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I don't know if this has been said here, but Kadyrov is going to Ukraine to visit the Chechen forces there. Considering how good the intelligence Ukraine and the West have on the Russian movement, are we going to see something "unexpected" happening?

Take it with a grain of salt as it's "unconfirmed" but more Chechens are on route via Donetsk to help with taking Mariupol.

 

[Narcotics]

I don't know if this has been said here, but Kadyrov is going to Ukraine to visit the Chechen forces there. Considering how good the intelligence Ukraine and the West have on the Russian movement, are we going to see something "unexpected" happening?

Unexpected in what way though? russia releasing chemical shit like all the falseflags that the us has been suspiciously insistent? ukraine pulling a plot armor move and defending succesfully? mauripol being reduced to rubble? i personally think it's just ruski morale boost but we'll see.

Talking about mauripol, i get the feeling that shit will go down there very very soon.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

I don't know if this has been said here, but Kadyrov is going to Ukraine to visit the Chechen forces there. Considering how good the intelligence Ukraine and the West have on the Russian movement, are we going to see something "unexpected" happening?

Him getting killed is definitely in the realm of possibility, western intelligence constantly feeding Ukraine is a major reason they're managing to take out all these generals, and Kadyrov will be an extremely enticing target for the West to help get rid of. Russia can't really accuse the West of killing Kadyrov if he just happened to be in an area that happened to get shelled by the Ukrainians.

 

[JosephStalin]

You even think he could do that right now? You seem to know more Russian history than my, ass, but I do recall Russia grinding the fuck out of wars that should have been easy and it not going well for the leaders that ordered it. Specifically, Japan and Afghanistan.

Well, the number of Russian men coming home in boxes will only increase, least until the Russian Army stops sending them back altogether. Discontent in Russia will only grow as sanctions hit harder and harder. Should Putin call up substantial reserve forces, those losses will also hurt the civilian economy.

Win, at whatever cost, or just walk out, Putin is fucked. The Emperor has no clothes. He staked everything on a rollover, only to find the Ukrainians also had a vote. And asking China for help? Not cool in the eyes of many Russians.

If we're talking the Russo-Japanese War of 1905, the Japanese beat the Russians like red-headed stepchildren. The Russian Baltic fleet went most of the way around the world to get sunk by the Japanese. Afghanistan didn't start badly, but just like we did last year, the USSR had had enough and got the fuck out.

Now we are apparently seeing strategic bombers staying in Russia and firing cruise missiles at Ukraine. Tells me the Uke air defense network is still a going thing. Otherwise, you'd see those Bears and Blackjacks dropping their loads on Uke cities.

While I agree the Russo-Sino relationship is purely transactional, I don't really think the Communist party cares about their own people.

They care more about the Han Chinese. The rest...we've seen.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Russia talked about the reddiors in their progress update thing. Called them "strange mercenaries"
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Also said they shot down 2 of the turkroach drones in the last update.

Well for a country that is definitely more religious than Western Europe and North America.

INB4 Muh corrupt gangster state.

It must be hard for them to understand some of those foreign volunteers were unironically motivated not by greed or some anti Russian hatred or just going on an adventure.

But for fucking updootes, intangible pixels on a computer screen in the shape of an upward arrow.

 

[Oxous]

On the topic of China, Hu Xijin (Xi's unofficial spokesman, essentially) has commented on the idea of Chinese support. Rather milquetoast but there's a rather narrow line he has to walk here. Don't condemn the invasion, but don't cheerlead for Putin either. And DEFINITELY don't clamor for China to get involved. Beijing doesn't want anything to do with this shitshow.

 

[AGPinochet]

As a cold war state, Ukraine has tons and tons of bunkers, tunnel networks, and underground military facilities under its major cities. All likely packed with food, ammo, and other supplies for a long war.

Russia is going to have a hell of a time trying to clear them out without resorting to leveling whole cities with bunker-busting missiles and artillery.

And they can't do that because the West is watching too closely and wouldn't allow Afghan-War-style scorched earth tactics on Ukrainians.

They've really gotten themselves into a bad spot.

You are assuming all that shit was either not
A. Stolen and sold as the USSR Collapsed
B. Been left to rot, corrode and degrade
C. Used up in the 8 year war against the Separatists.

You are also assuming that the Russians do not have precise maps of these tunnel networks and thus know just where to drop the bombs.

 

[Mussi]

Take it with a grain of salt as it's "unconfirmed" but more Chechens are on route via Donetsk to help with taking Mariupol.

Please, please send them as a forward advance force into Mariupol without any armor or air support.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Russia is creating their own web security certificate, which will give them the ability to decrypt communication & reroute Russian citizens to phony clone sites, further allowing them to spy on their own civilians.

 

[bread n circuses]

This is patently fucking false, people willingly write legislation to have their freedoms abrogated to bruise a political enemy all the time, latest example is the Earn It Act. Yes, people do offer their own freedoms on a sacrificial altar all the time, they make demands for it. Sometimes they're paid shills for the special interests, but frequently it's just idiots with tunnel vision trying to destroy a perceived threat.

This accepts at face value that you possess freedom and that ordinary citizens have some sort of organic perception of a threat that isn’t produced/managed by central institutions. When people demand something that the state doesn’t want, it doesn’t happen. Public opinion is manufactured and is a tool of legitimization, it isn’t a real driver of policy. That’s my point, people don’t have “freedoms” outside of what the government is willing to grant or is unable to control. I was arguing against the idea that America’s cultural emphasis on freedom somehow translated into real political independence for ordinary people.

Obviously there are retards demanding that the government fuck them in the ass harder because they don’t care about anything but tv and coom.

 

[Haffhart]

I don't see why people are saying (ironically or not) that this will turn into WW3, aside from the meme and the belief that important nations only fight in world wars. The ebil scray rogue nations are just sitting on the sidelines and no one is stupid enough to use nukes. The Boxer Rebellion and the Kosovo War (or whatever that was) seem like better parallels - Western lands ganging up on an unfortunate enemy to protect their interests also there's a rebellion.

 

[MrJokerRager]

From what the state department is saying, looks like the Russians asked the Chinese for support in evading sanctions, not direct military aid which wouldn't make a lot of sense given the giant stockpile of Soviet crap the Russians can lean on if they are that desperate

Also the dead gay failing shadow of the red army is probably going to take mariupol tomorrow and execute all the nazis, which will be funny as it will enrage all the Twitter leftists

https://nitter.net/RWApodcast/status/1503139842561130508#m

Russia should livestream those executions for the lulz.

And then watch leftists and the mainstream media all of a sudden go "wtf, I love nazis" and "be humane to the nazis" and all that shit.

Or blur out the nazi emblems on those Azov lot.

Hypocrisy all over the place and all of sudden there is a referendum on globohomo because a bunch of Slavs decided to engage in the age old custom of fucking each other up.

I have a feeling the neocons and neoliberals hate this Russian Invasion, not because of poor holhols getting blown to bits. But because it isn't America in the headlines bombing some shithole.

 

[Lards and Lasses]

Russia is creating their own web security certificate, which will give them the ability to decrypt communication & reroute Russian citizens to phony clone sites, further allowing them to spy on their own civilians.

"Please trust all the hearsay and assumptions this anime faggot made in this clickbait video"
Even in a time where propaganda is at an all time high, you can't stop lapping it up.