Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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I don't forsee a surrender in Mariople, at least not in the traditional sense. The fighting may stop but ain't nobody gonna be around to hand over the colors.

You saying that they won't agree to surrender?

Most Ukrie soldiers in Mariupol are not fanatical Azov guys.

And really, they don't have enough supplies to keep fighting for much longer.

Your bias is noticeable.
 
they really don't tbh
taliban never were an effective fighting force, just a persistent and annoying band of guerrillas

When Chad fought Libya in the 80's it was at a time when Libya's logistics chain was horrendously long and Libya had a very small and poorly educated populace which meant a small and poorly trained army.

Being mobile in a technical that didn't require as much maintenance and fuel as Libyan armor was great for Chad.

That doesn't apply here, because the Ukies don't have air superiority.
 
All the intelligence seems to have pointed to the fact that he was suspected to be in Pakistan from 2005-2011, which means he probably didn't jump around the ME. He just spent a few years hidden near the border and moved to the compound when it was built in 2005.
As far as we know he wasn't stationary, but we don't really know where he actually was because he kept moving about during that time. That doesn't mean all over the ME (he probably didn't wind up in Egypt or Saudi Arabia), just somewhere in the ME. We have no clue where. The only thing we do know is he was moving around and that Al-Qaeda operatives we captured were told tons of false information about his movements.
 
It's all a show. Zelenskyy is running a three ring circus in the media to keep pressure on waffling western governments and rally the moral of his country. And he's proving exceedingly good at it. Nothing concrete will come of it, but that is not really what he is trying to do. Every day he's out there doing his song and dance routine is another day Russia has failed to win. And that in the end is a win for Ukraine.

Russias victory condition is overthrowing Zelenskyy. Ukraines victory condition is avoiding that outcome.
Not necessarily. I think Putin would prefer to have Zelensky in place because Zelensky has shown that he is not a great military mind, is not great at diplomacy, is not great at economics, and before this all kicked off was viewed as the Trudeau of the East, a funnyman bugman who was cracking down on civil rights and building the corrupt civil state faster than he was bending over and taking it from the American neocons.
 
I mentioned Mogadishu separately. The incident I was thinking of was in Niger, the Tongo Tongo Ambush (there were guys from an SF ODA in that group along with Niger Army guys).
I often wonder what kind of reindeer games AFRICOM is up to, given how much we don't hear about them.
 
A hilarious continuation of Redditors from r/UkrainianConflict and r/Ukraine being salty that most of the world doesn’t give a fuck about this conflict and will continue to trade with Russia as usual.

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'the world won't forget India sided with Russia'

Considering the West is siding with Nazis right now….the West will absolutely forget they hated Russia.
 
I often wonder what kind of reindeer games AFRICOM is up to, given how much we don't hear about them.
The US boys were there because they were apparently helping Niger find and take out some commander in ISGS, the ISIS franchise in Subsaharan Africa.

I'm sure the glowies aren't up to anything good there, especially with how prominent China has been in Africa in the past years. Might be trying to figure out how to start some nice nationalist movements that will kick the Chinks out of the country and nationalize their factories or some shit, IDK.
 
There seems to be conflicting information regarding China’s considering aiding Russia. Apparently, China claims that US is spreading disinformation. On the other hand, US officials insist that their intel is true.
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There seems to be conflicting information regarding China’s considering aiding Russia. Apparently, China claims that US is spreading disinformation. On the other hand, US officials insist that their intel is true.
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My rule of thumb is don't trust a word out of China's mouth.

China will try to play both sides.
 
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By rule of thumb is don't trust a word out of America's mouth.

America will try to fuck its own people over regardless.
 
There seems to be conflicting information regarding China’s considering aiding Russia. Apparently, China claims that US is spreading disinformation. On the other hand, US officials insist that their intel is true.
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Let’s be real no fucking shit china wants to support (i.e price gouge and war profiteer) off of their “greatest ally” (almost like our greatest ally) they are just mad they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
 
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Propaganda doesn't have to make sense in order for the masses to uncritically accept it.
 
Artillery, rockets and bullets don't give a shit if you're a Delta Force SEAL Ranger who's gotten millions of dollars of training time and the best fucking gear in the universe. The only reason special forces operators have gotten a reputation for being unkillable and nearly always coming home from a mission is because for the past 30 years they've been operating with gear that the dudes on the other side have either never heard of, or couldn't dream of having in their wildest fantasies, with 24/7 CAS and evac available for them at a moment's notice, with constant intel being piped to them from air assets stationed above their AO with FLIR and all sorts of other crap.

And even then you get entire squads of spec ops guys getting schwacked in Africa (forget the country it happened in), Blackhawks going down in Mogadishu, SEALs getting obliterated by a $30 RPG-7 round because their helo was just hovering out in the open.
The cult of the BADASS SUPER ARMY SOLDIER (fap fap fap) is one of the Boomerest things that ever boomed, because it combines Generation Grill's love of vicarious tough guy flexing (while they sit on their fat asses at a computer) and meaningless conservadad flagwanking. It's Blue Lives Matter on Viagra :hulk:

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Everybody respects genuinely tough guys and that's cool, but they're not unkillable cyborg ninjas or Solid Snake or armed gigapatriots defending Are Freedom. They're government employees with rifles, many of them with serious emotional or mental health problems, and if the government told them you were the enemy they'd happily murder you, and your whole family, in your beds.

And some, I assume, are good people.
 
Propaganda doesn't have to make sense in order for the masses to uncritically accept it.

This is the real truth.

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Also this, you can trust the Chinese glowies to work with what's best for China, you can trust ours to work their best to screw you over.

Ukraine and America drawing in India and Pakistan when Russia and China are already knee deep in.

There is also Israel involved and Iran right behind it.

What blockbuster does Biden promise in 2023 and 2024?


 
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